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livencabo
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Mexico Abruptly Restricts Car Imports
Vehciles with Mexican registration pay a tax called "tenencia" (roughly means having) until the vehicle is ten years old. Thus the desireability of a
vehicle ten years old or more.
For some time the car could be as old as 15 years. I guess now a vehicle could be no more than 10 years old at import but as vehicles age there would
still be older cars on the road.
I think the rule applies to 10 year old cars, not just 1998, the magic year will change each year.
FMT and FM3 can drive US plated vehicles, Mexicans can only drive such cars for limited purposes.
When I changed from FM3 to FM2 I could no longer drive my own car and the only way to get it back was to sell it to a yard in Nevada which imported it
and resold it to me, then I got Mexican registration and plates. I recently sold that 1986 Toyota truck so there was no problem selling a vehicle
much older than 10 years.
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Gypsy Jan
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Mexico Abruptly Restricts Car Imports
If this is related or tangential, but last week I saw a very late model Ford diesel 3/4 ton (guessing, but not a dually) pickup truck with Baja
plates. It was not a commercial vehicle.
So, I guess the laws have changed regarding sales or importation for those vehicles?
Oops, double post to double post - Sorry!
[Edited on 3-4-2008 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Along with those sames lines, I know a Mexican that imported a 2007 diesel pickup.  You can't do that you say! |
There was a time when you couldn't. I guess diesel importation laws changed. It's all academic now, I suppose. Mexico is reverting to a
panhandleing, mordita driven economy. No profit in progress.
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livencabo
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Mexico Abruptly Restricts Car Imports
Now, do I care?
Yes, very much because I now cannot import the 1993 Jeep my son was going to give me th year!
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Gypsy Jan
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Not Sure
If this is related or tangential, but, last week I saw a very late model Ford 3/4 ton (guessing, but it wasn't a dually) diesel pickup truck with Baja
plates.
It didn't appear to be a commercial vehicle, in the sense that there was no advertising written on it and the plates were regular style.
So, I guess the laws on that have changed?
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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comitan
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Not just Diesel but 2007 its was suppose to be only vehicles more than 5 years old.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Not just Diesel but 2007 its was suppose to be only vehicles more than 5 years old. |
That too. There are Escalades, Hummers and late model Mercedes with Baja plates all over Ensenada. Money talks and that's why I don't think we've
seen the end of all-age imports here.
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Bruce R Leech
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you can do anything you want in Mexico. all you need to do is find the person that needs a few bucks and that is most anyone here.
Bruce R Leech
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DENNIS
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By the way.....Will this be the end of used-car lots as we know them? It will be more than difficult for the operators to keep an inventory based on
the new regulations.
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dtbushpilot
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Ok, so where do I go from here?
I have a very nice (no, really) 1979 Jeep Cherokee that I have been saving for my Mexico vehicle. I bought a tourist insurance policy for it and took
it down to our new home in Baja last year with the intention of importing it eventually. I have an FM3, bank account, local address etc.
Suggestions?....dt
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jeffg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Ok, so where do I go from here?
I have a very nice (no, really) 1979 Jeep Cherokee that I have been saving for my Mexico vehicle. I bought a tourist insurance policy for it and took
it down to our new home in Baja last year with the intention of importing it eventually. I have an FM3, bank account, local address etc.
Suggestions?....dt |
Keep it registered in the U.S. Register it in South Dakota or somewhere that keeps it simple (ie no smog requirement). I think you need a little
different insurance policy though, if the vehicle is staying in Mexico.
Then just wait for the regulation to change. Eventually someone will read the thing and realize how crazy it it. Well, maybe, weirder things have
happened!
I have a 1999 Trooper down there, if nothing changes I guess next year will be my magic year to import it.
Jeff
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeffg
[I have a 1999 Trooper down there, if nothing changes I guess next year will be my magic year to import it.
Jeff |
If nothing changes by next year, you'll be able to sell it for more than it's worth.
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stanburn
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Dennis,
I am also an expat (living 365 days a year) here and I don't care about the change either. I couldn't import my 91 van before, and can't now either.
However you mentioned NAFTA and the press here says that in 2009 you will be able to import anything. That is when I will import my 91 van and is
when other posters will be able to import their vehicles that don't qualify this year.
Regarding all of the vehicles that don't look like they qualified for importation under the old rules.........you can buy new vehicles in Mexico that
are identical to those that you can't import. You just have to purchase it from a Mexican Auto Dealer and they are more expensive. I don't think it
is a mordida issue, just a money issue.
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rob
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re DIESEL IMPORTATION
Dennis - for a long time, Mexico did not allow importation of (light) diesels.
When my F350 Powerstroke broke in La Paz, we ran around to all the diesel labs (there are a lot of them, but all they do is service injectors) and one
of them suggested the big LavAlle dairy distributors.
We found they had a fleet of 89 new F450 diesels plus a complete Ford diesel maintenance facility open to the public!
Lavalle had the truck running in 48 hours with a part flown in from Guadalajara!
I could also say something really nasty about the la Paz Ford distributor - but I won't - it's too beautiful a day.
It's also off-topic!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by stanburn
However you mentioned NAFTA and the press here says that in 2009 you will be able to import anything. That is when I will import my 91 van and is
when other posters will be able to import their vehicles that don't qualify this year.
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I hope you're right. I have a feeling that NAFTA is going to be revisited soon. It's causing a lot of problems for some sectors.
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Hook
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Ya know, this envirowacko inference that cars mfgred in 1998 are gas-guzzling polluters is just not correct, IMO. The US, Japan and Europe were making
lots of efficient, low emission vehicles back then. Many states still make the 1998 model year undergo smog testing as a condition of registration.
Damn liberals wont be happy till we're all driving bicycles............how am I supposed to drink a beer and ride a bike ????????? Sounds too
dangerous to me. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
............how am I supposed to drink a beer and ride a bike ????????? Sounds too dangerous to me. |
Where there's a will, there's an ice cold Pacifico.
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Mulegena
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importing to Mexico / registering in South Dakota
"However you mentioned NAFTA and the press here says that in 2009 you will be able to import anything. That is when I will import my 91 van and is
when other posters will be able to import their vehicles that don't qualify this year." Stanburn: Would you find that press report and post it
here? I really, really want to import my car and am willing to wait a year.
On a related topic: I checked with South Dakota Treasurer's Office today about registering my car there. The answer was unequivocally "NO!" One
must have a legal address in the state.
I'm going to Aduana in Santa Rosalia tomorrow to personally inquire about making my car "puro Mexicano". I'll post a report of the (ad)venture-- sure
hope its positive.
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Mulegena
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update: importing parameters
| Quote: | | I'm going to Aduana in Santa Rosalia tomorrow to personally inquire about making my car "puro Mexicano". I'll post a report of the (ad)venture-- sure
hope its positive. |
Mission Impossible: Although Aduana personnell were very polite and helpful, even calling the La Paz Main Office in my behalf, the bottom line is
that my request to permanently import my car was denied.
Why? Because my car's Vin Number begins with the letter "J" which means it was imported from Japan, not made on the North American continent. Mexico
will allow cars "only with Vin No's. beginning with the numbers "1, 2, or 3".
Apparently to satisfy the NAFTA agreements all permanent inter-country (US-Mex) imported cars must be made on this continent.
... so I am back to Square One 
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
On a related topic: I checked with South Dakota Treasurer's Office today about registering my car there. The answer was unequivocally "NO!" One
must have a legal address in the state.
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I don't have a SD address but I do have SD plates on my car down here. I also registered my other car, currently in CA, and the SD plates are waiting
for me now. In both cases I used an AZ address, no problem. Many others on this forum have also done it with no problems.
u2u me if you need more info.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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