ligui
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David ... K
Wanted to jump-in and thank david for all of his baja information , ( and the rest of the nomads ) .
Great , up beat info.
Almost as good as being there.... ?
Thanks everyone !! david K has been there and has the pics.
Got a baja feeling
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ligui
Got a baja feeling |
Another fun read....That Baja Feeling.... by Ben Hunter.
Remember Ben Hunter on daytime TV from Los Angeles? He'd sometimes be half ripped and wear his hairpiece sideways.
I know David has this one.
[Edited on 4-4-2008 by DENNIS]
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bbbait
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Yep... he's as solid on here as it gets...
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David K
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Mil Gracias Amigos...
Yes Dennis, I have Ben Hunter's book 'The Baja Feeling' ... a really good 'must read'! I also recall his TV show... showing old movies and talking
about them.
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David K
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Part of an email this morning about Baja places to explore/ ride...
I have been exchanging emails with someone who rides a motorcycle out of L.A. Bay and is seeking some more ideas...
After reading some of my stuff on VivaBaja.com (and maybe Nomad) he had some more questions... He may have asked on Nomad, but hasn't been able to
register or log on... Because they are some of the questions I have heard before, I thought I would post my answers here for the rest of you to enjoy.
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Lost missions... well, if they were found, what would we search for? Seriously, I am seeking what the Erle Stanley Gardner's caravan discovered in
1966... a wall going up a hill, dam, fort ruins on the mesa(?), Indian sleeping circles: http://vivabaja.com/1757/ Choral Pepper thinks it may have been a proposed mission called Santa Maria Magdalena shown in the area on the 1757
Jesuit map, that was started, but abandoned.
The plane wreck on Laguna Seca (the second dry lake) is 29-13.990', 113-50.661' (NAD27 Mexico). Tis waypoint is from Bill Bryant ('BillB' on Nomad)
who explores Baja with a Rokon 2WD motorcycle!
I have GPS for the road to Candelero beach, on my GPS web page... Here are some milages I recorded:
L.A. Bay Highway north (around Laguna Agua Amarga, through pass to Arroyo Mesa de Yubay) to 'T' junction: 13.5 miles.
East goes 8.6 mi. to a fork, left at that fork goes 1.2 mi. to Guadalupe Bay fishermen huts...
West in Arroyo Mesa de Yubay eventually climbs out to the north and crosses Laguna Seca dry lake in 5.0 miles from the 'T' junction, makes a sharp
east turn in 4.2 more miles and drops into Arroyo Los Candeleros in 5.1 more miles and follows it to a cobble beach 19.1 miles from the 'T' junction,
33.1 miles from the L.A. Bay highway.
A great M/C ride and short too, from Bahia de L.A. is to the Las Flores Railroad/ Cable tram line Terminal! See this page: http://vivabaja.com/402/page4.html and one photo on this page: http://davidksbaja.com/403/page11.html
Here is a GPS page I made to Las Animas that mentions the Railroad/ Terminal Canyon Platform:
GPS and Milage Notes (map datum NAD27 Mex.)
0.0 Camp Gecko Driveway (4.1 mi. so. of pavement/ town): 28°53.96', 113°31.85'
5.7 The old Las Flores jail is 0.3 mi. to right.
8.1 Poor road ahead (28°46.98', 113°32.00') to reach the railroad terminal platform (3 mi.). Main road bends left. Platform at 28°44.73', 113°32.54'
18.5 Old road south via La Bocana valley 28°40.72', 113°25.41' (rejoins main road after 33 rough miles.)
22.3 Las Animas road, turn left 28°40.52', 113°21.72' (stay left at both forks, going in)
33.6 Bahia las Animas 28°48.57', 113°21.34'
Yes, Bill Nichols is still around... 'Corky' on Nomad knows him and has ridden with him... He made a M/C trail from south of Puertecitos over to Hwy.
1 near San Agustin and a route across to San Quintin... as well as the El Crucero (yes, on the 1000 checkpoint where the old San Felipe/ Calamajue
Canyon road meets Mex. 1) to L.A. Bay without pavement.
The Rock Palm Hill road we took by accident as we were trying to get to Tinaja de Yubay! It was a great mistake (like all roads in Baja go somewhere
interesting)!
The route begins on the OLD L.A. Bay road (Baja 1000 course), 0.3 mi. east of the Desengaņo ruins, where the Yubay & Rock Palm Hill road goes
north... In about 2.8 miles, the road to Yubay turns sharp right (east) towards that pointy hill 'Cerro La Palmita'... (we didn't turn the first trip
and went 4.2 miles and parked by Rock Palm Hill). The road to Yubay turns to the north as it gets near that hill and ends in a sandy arroyo just over
2 miles where you park and hike on the Camino Real straight across the arroyo, over a rise, and drop into Arroyo Yubay then hike over the rocks to the
waterhole marked by a fig tree growing from the side of the cliff.
Here's some GPS (but note they are at Map Datum WGS84!):
GPS DIRECTIONS TO YUBAY (WGS 84)
JCN. hwy.1 & L.A. Bay hwy. N29°02.76' W114°09.17' 0.0 mi.
TURN NORTH onto dirt road N29°04.31' W114°02.41' 7.0 mi.
FORK right (left is Desengano, 0.3 mi.) N29°06.84' W114°01.65' 10.0 mi.
JCN. go right (ahead to rock palm hill, 4.2 mi.) N29°09.17' W114°01.40' 12.8 mi.
RIDGE TOP, 4WD only beyond N29°10.19' W113°59.77' 14.8 mi.
END OF ROAD in arroyo/TRAIL is straight across N29°10.29' W113°59.65' 14.9 mi.
TINAJA DE YUBAY N29°10.69' W113°59.26' 15.5 mi.
note: milages are direct, not road miles.
See my 2001 dry year Yubay photos: http://vivabaja.com/van1/page5.html
See Neal Johns' better 2003 wet year photos!: http://vivabaja.com/neal2/page2.html
At the end of that page I made for Neal is this GPS list you may enjoy!:
Data Sheet for Neal's Feb. '03 Baja Trip
GPS Waypoints are at map datum NAD27 Mexico
Agua Dulce access road: 29°51.67'/ 114°50.36'
Agua Dulce spring: 29°52.97'/ 114°49.38'
La Virgen access (Neal's): 29°49.18'/ 114°48.48'
La Virgen access (DK's): 29°49.41'/ 114°48.63'
Yubay/Desengano access on L.A. Bay hwy.: 29°04.30'/ 114°02.37'
Fork: Yubay right./Desengano left: 29°06.83'/ 114°01.61'
Jcn.: Yubay right/Rock Palm Hill straight: 29°09.16'/ 114°01.36'
Yubay Parking for 2WDs: 29°10.18'/ 113°59.73'
Yubay Parking for 4WD/Trail start: 29°10.28'/ 113°59.62'
El Camino Real (from south) bottom: 29°10.58'/ 113°59.21'
El Camino Real summit: 29°10.54'/ 113°59.19'
Tinaja de Yubay: 29°10.68'/ 113°59.22'
Upper tinaja (above Yubay): 29°10.93'/ 113°58.99'
Luz de Mexico mine road: 29°02.93'/ 113°55.94'
Side track to arch boojum & El Camino Real near San Borja: 28°51.55'/ 113°47.65'
El Camino Real (south end): 28°51.57'/ 113°47.40'
El Camino Real (north end): 28°51.98'/ 113°47.65'
El Marmol south access at old road: 29°51.34'/ 114°48.52'
El Marmol Onyx Quarry: 29°57.99'/ 114°48.28'
Above GPS data from Neal Johns & David K
As always, I am here to help and will enjoy reading about your discoveries!
Sincerely,
David
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Anyway, this is what is important... people being nice to each other and helping others to have the adventure they seek. I wish those who use the time
here to be critical so much would think about what's really important on Nomad.
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Ken Cooke
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Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
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David's been a big help to me over the years. I sent him a t-shirt just to say, "Thanks." Now, if I could get him to join me on the Pole Line
road...
| Quote: | Originally posted by ligui
Wanted to jump-in and thank david for all of his baja information , ( and the rest of the nomads ) .
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woody with a view
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just leave the sacred spots of the secretive surfers out of the discussion.....it gets crowded enough as it is. not being critical, just factual....
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I wish those who use the time here to be critical so much would think about what's really important on Nomad.
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if you don't surf, don't encourage others by posting "flashing neon signs", so to speak.....
i am sorry, but DK is a wealth of info regarding baja - although he doesn't seem to recognize that he steps on TOO MANY folks toes trying to be the
ever flowing spigot of information. sometimes you should just be an expert on one or two things instead of a blow-hard on everything!
just OUR two cents!
oh, and David, if we ever meet, the first one's still on you. i'll get the next 12 as we discuss this further!  
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65300
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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OK with me... and I will never, ever post a secret surf spot (or even a well known one)!!! Have a good weekend amigos...
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