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shari
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Info on bicycle style air pump for truck tires
I was wondering in the infinite wisdom of Nomads...if someone knows about tire pumps...someone said they don't make em anymore...you remember..the old
pump you could pump up your car tires with...like a bike pump but skookum (really works well) we are finding all the compressor types don't last very
long at all and are for emergency use only but not regular use. Any ideas amigos?
[Edited on 4-13-2008 by shari]
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Ken Cooke
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I have 3 sources of air: 1 bike pump that mounts on my road bike and is lightweight, another bike pump similar to what you described which is kept in
the garage, and my Viair Extreme Duty OnBoard Air System that is hard mounted on the Jeep (pictured).
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wow Ken, that's pretty skookum all right...so ummm...any idea where we can get a decent working hand pump for car tires????? in your garage?
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Ken Cooke
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Why would anyone (not smoking crack) even consider a hand pump for a truck tire? Spend $600 U.S.D. and get what I have, and you can open your own
Llanteria on the side of the road, charging $50 per tire change, and $200 per flat repair. 
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shari
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Um Ken???WTF? smoking crack????? To begin with we don't have the $600, we could buy a car for that! We LIKE simple things that last and work that we
can lend to our neighbour...low tech...inexpensive...replaceable in case the amigo we lent it to lends it to his amigo and it disappears.....here they
charge $2 or sometimes $3 to fix a flat...problem is they are rarely open...never when you need air...we air down and up A LOT and just need a simple
hand pump...good exercise too...really bummed about the crack comment amigo
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chill, & get a foot pump. (way better for vehicles)
stop taking what u read on a msg board so seriously. u've got a long way to go gringa 
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shari
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Why is a foot pump better for vehicles? More air per pump? Funny thing is that the gringa part of me just let fly a few juicy cuss words I wish I
could repeat here...but the mexican part of me got a bit offended...OK, so I'm sensitive....busted!
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???? serious??? I'd like to know a place that has a serious manual air pump too. Foot pump is fine. I just haven't found what I'd consider quality on
the internet. Must be looking in all the wrong places as usual. Thanks for any serious help!I'm better now
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get a low key hose that fits in a spark plug hole to pump up that tire. it is not my first choice but will work. i would prefer a co2 tank like i have
but since you guys are low on money this is a great alt. good luck
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Um Ken???WTF? smoking crack????? really bummed about the crack comment amigo
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Sorry, I was trying to be funny. Honestly, if you expect to keep something, you don't loan it out. If a car costs $600 it might be stolen. A
handpump in the desert with a broken down tire could be fatal.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
[ A handpump in the desert with a broken down tire could be fatal. |
Last year when I was leaving Asuncion, I bought a cheapo manual "bike" pump at the segunda for about $5. Realized that I had nothing and thought I'd
better - it was all I could find.
On the retrun trip to Asuncion a month later, I had 2 flats.
Changed one with the spare and had to plug the second and refil it (up to 40 psi anyway) with the cheapo little red pump.
If I hadn't had a full toobox, a camper full of food etc, and the help of a very nice young man, I coulda died out there !!
True story but just funnin Ken - sure broke a sweat pumping that little toy for 40 minutes; a minute a pound !!
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Ken Cooke
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I hear stories all of the time about people dehydrating out in the desert, dropping dead, etc. For under $75, a compressor could be kept in its'
protective bag, and used only when necessary.
Its also a good idea to travel when friends if at all possible.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
[ A handpump in the desert with a broken down tire could be fatal. |
Last year when I was leaving Asuncion, I bought a cheapo manual "bike" pump at the segunda for about $5. Realized that I had nothing and thought I'd
better - it was all I could find.
On the retrun trip to Asuncion a month later, I had 2 flats.
Changed one with the spare and had to plug the second and refil it (up to 40 psi anyway) with the cheapo little red pump.
If I hadn't had a full toobox, a camper full of food etc, and the help of a very nice young man, I coulda died out there !!
True story but just funnin Ken - sure broke a sweat pumping that little toy for 40 minutes; a minute a pound !!
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Ah, but think about the exercise.
Our on board compressor is not nearly what Ken has, but it has been well worth the money and saved the day more than once--- including putting air
back in the tires after a major air down to get the truck back moving after John decided to park the Toyota in those four very deep holes on the beach
near San Roque. Just think what it could do if we had been stuck. 
Seriously, we love having the onboard compressor for us and for others. It is so much stronger than a portable one. Not only can it be a life safer,
but it is such a nice convenience.
Ready to leave the house in Bahia Asuncion one day and tire is flat---big nail. So much easier to quickly put enough air in the tire to reach the
llantera than to change the tire.
And Diver, next time, after using that hand pump, we are sure you will need our shower. Let's hope the water is on. 
Shari, can't imagine a hand pump that would really be practical. I do remember the old pumps for the old tires with tubes---maybe that made it
different. Maybe somone will come up with a practical alternative to a compressor.
[Edited on 4-13-2008 by jdtrotter]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I was wondering in the infinite wisdom of Nomads...if someone knows about tire pumps...someone said they don't make em anymore...you remember..the old
pump you could pump up your car tires with...like a bike pump but skookum (really works well) we are finding all the compressor types don't last very
long at all and are for emergency use only but not regular use. Any ideas amigos?
[Edited on 4-13-2008 by shari] |
the cheapo 12-volt air compressors, run off cigarett lighter plug, last about 3 hours total use before blowing out. useful only for emergency, a few
times.
good floor hand pump for bikes costs $40 and will last for 30 years, and do up to 150 psi, but will give you a workout to pump a car tire. cheapo
pumps can be had for 20 dolloars and willl last 5 years with heavy use.
there are foot pumps that do same thing, and are "easier" to use (bigger leg muscles), but hard to find in stores.
for home use (non portable), you can buy an electric compressor and use it for anything from running tools, pumping tires, and painting houses with
spray gun attachment.
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CO2
I purchased 3 CO2 tanks (2 20lbs and a 5lb) on Craigs list for $150. 2 pairs of set volume regulators (150psi), hoses and air chucks with gauges were
another $200. I now have 2 complete sets and a 5lb spare bottle for a total investment of $350, less than that advertised on 4wd websites.
CO2 works great for tire fills and also will operate air tools. Way safer than compressed air tanks and quicker than compressors.
Can get refilled at any (most) welding supply stores or beverage distributors. 20lb CO2 tank will fill about 100 tires!!!
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get a double action hand pump as in inflatable boat pump. cut the strokes in half and four times volume each stroke. look under inflatable boat
equipment....................
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I really don't think that a hand pump is feasible to pump up car tires, especially if you're airing up and pumping four. Just takes to long, on top of
everything else.
Something like this would work MUCH better:
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It's a bicycle floor pump - pretty sure you could find some on craigslist at a good price.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I purchased 3 CO2 tanks (2 20lbs and a 5lb) on Craigs list for $150. 2 pairs of set volume regulators (150psi), hoses and air chucks with gauges were
another $200. I now have 2 complete sets and a 5lb spare bottle for a total investment of $350, less than that advertised on 4wd websites.
CO2 works great for tire fills and also will operate air tools. Way safer than compressed air tanks and quicker than compressors.
Can get refilled at any (most) welding supply stores or beverage distributors. 20lb CO2 tank will fill about 100 tires!!! |
There ya go Shari, save some cash if you can and go this route, this is what I have which is nearly fool proof cause it has no working parts and will
work if you have other issues like battery problems, or go the on board route as suggested above.
The problem with any manual pump is not the psi for a car or truck tire but the volumn of air required to inflate it.
If you air down and up alot I think a manual pump, in the environment you are asking it to work in, is a waste of money IMHO.
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There ARE good 12v pumps on the market and I dont mean the type that Ken Cooke is getting.
Many of us have the Costco model that sold for about 60.00 US and have many hours on it.
A manual pump in the desert for tires? Couldnt carry enough beer to negate the time interval being down.
Also probably couldnt bring back a bead very easily.
I ran a smallish B & D 110v Power Station inflator off a small inverter for many years. It would pump up to 120psi. Just had to have the engine
running to put out enough 12v to run the inverter.
[Edited on 4-13-2008 by Hook]
[Edited on 4-13-2008 by Hook]
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You could go with either a Firestone or a QuickAir compressor. Both are reputable manufacturers, and are well made. Both can be had for under $200
and will last for years. Personally I went with a Firestone with a 0.5 gallon tank with a quick-connect plug that I could plug in any air tool into.
It wont produce 2+ CFM like Ken's but it's enough to re-seat a dismounted tire, if needed, and quickly refill or top off a tire to its correct on
road PSI.
Go with a hard mount unit, or at least one you can directly clip power to the battery. The ones that plug into the AC outlet will blow the AC outlet
fuse, just when you need them most.
You will thank yourself for the ease of quickly filling up a tire when it is 110 outside and not passing out from having to pump up and down with the
foot pump Roberto posted a picture of....Keep that for an emergency backup.
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