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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 05:10 PM


So Oso, since you chose to slander me as "usually all wrong", I would like to see your reply to my evaluation of the event and reasons for it's popularity today. Let's not be one trick ponies here with accusations and silence. Show me where I'm wrong or, apologize for your public attack on my credibility.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 05:31 PM


Dennis...I would completely agree with your asesment and the accurate definitions of how "Cinco Fever" got started and spread in the beginning days of a big "Mexican Tradition" for us gringos to celebrate, in and around Orange County in the early 50s and 60s. While the S.F. Bay area Bohemians and Hipsters were tuneing in and dropping out, us red blooded and wild as hell beer drinking sailors and surfers from So. Cal. were celebrating anything Mexican. Remember the Juarachi tire tread sandals and cheap straw hats? Now those were truly the "Good Old Days". ++C++:spingrin::spingrin::spingrin:
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 05:50 PM


Dennis, as your analyst I must bring you back to earth. How soon we forget! Dont' you remember the roses thrown at your feet not long ago for showing yourself as a puppy pampering, do-gooder and all around nice guy of Baja Norte? Do the exercises I gave you or I may have to call in my collegue Dr. Ifishwhenimnotshrinkingstrangepeopleinmexico. DDRRSSphdSm.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 05:54 PM


Oh, yeah Crusoe.... And trips to TJ to buy Spanish Fly? I'll bet Ferna doesn't even remember that stuff.
They still make those tire tred sandals [ huaraches] but, today they only use Michelens.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 05:58 PM


Having participated in the race for about 6yrs; I was living in a town north of DF. Cinco de Mayo rolled around and I was anticipating a fiesta. Well, nothing happened, so I asked around. Nobody ever heard of it, not even the story of the kids fighting the frogs. It could be an Olvera st. cultural reenactment thing that nobody in world cared about, until the Newport/ensenada race. Dennis is right on about this. :cool:
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 06:04 PM


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Dennis, as your analyst I must bring you back to earth. How soon we forget! Dont' you remember the roses thrown at your feet not long ago for showing yourself as a puppy pampering, do-gooder and all around nice guy of Baja Norte? Do the exercises I gave you or I may have to call in my collegue Dr. Ifishwhenimnotshrinkingstrangepeopleinmexico. DDRRSSphdSm.


Thanks for the warning, DR. Jorge. I always appreciate it when you retrieve me from mental lofty hieghts and the threat of Dr. Rick intervening brings me back to earth as well.
So nice that you......... I forgot.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 06:06 PM


Thank you, Duo. Appreciate that reference.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2008 at 10:46 PM


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Having participated in the race for about 6yrs; I was living in a town north of DF. Cinco de Mayo rolled around and I was anticipating a fiesta. Well, nothing happened, so I asked around. Nobody ever heard of it, not even the story of the kids fighting the frogs. It could be an Olvera st. cultural reenactment thing that nobody in world cared about, until the Newport/ensenada race. Dennis is right on about this. :cool:


More importanatly did they hear about the sinking of the ship and the heartache and disappointment it brought the citizens of Puebla?




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[*] posted on 4-17-2008 at 08:11 AM


Oooh, touchy, touchy. Sorry to dampen such a nice paranoid snit, Dennis, but I was not singling you out. Regarding the FIRST U.S. celebrations of 5/5, all the prior stories, particularly the amusing Hellman's version were historically wrong. However, if the point you are trying to make is that the popularity of the "holiday" was greatly increased among Anglo-Americans in SoCal by a particular boat race, then I'm perfectly willing to concede that point. Primarily because I don't really give a culo de rata.:rolleyes:



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[*] posted on 4-17-2008 at 08:21 AM


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Today in Mexico, the locals shrug their shoulders at the mention of the day.

[Edited on 4-13-2008 by DENNIS]


And now they have completly embraced Cuarto de Julio as their own and have an economic boom in fireworks sales.:lol:




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[*] posted on 4-17-2008 at 08:37 AM


In the late 50's and early 60's Ensenada was cosidered a huge party town by thousands of So. Cal. young folks looking for a big adventure both by college kids as well as afluent adults. Hussongs Cantina was "The Spot to Be". After the Newport/ Enseada yacht race each year ( which I participated in many) Hussongs became out of control!!! People would drink themselves into a state the likes I have never seen since in public. Women and girls stripping off all their clothes and dancing on the tables. Loud marriachi music and men singing loud old sea chanteys and screaming at the top of their lungs. Free pitchers of beer being passed over the bar by the bartenders only to be poured over someones head with great bravado.This celebration went on for 3 to 4 days and became a legend and big talk around So.Cal. social life, and something not to miss. This was the Cinco de Mayo every one new. And the Mexicans loved it as much as anyone else. ++C++:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 4-17-2008 at 11:03 AM


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People would drink themselves into a state the likes I have never seen since in public. Women and girls stripping off all their clothes and dancing on the tables. Loud marriachi music and men singing loud old sea chanteys and screaming at the top of their lungs. Free pitchers of beer being passed over the bar by the bartenders only to be poured over someones head with great bravado.


And to think, some Mexicans like to say North Americans have no culture.

The Bahia was another hot spot. I think it's still the headquarters for the race related activities.
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