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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 02:05 PM
San Juan de Dios: Visita's GPS waypoint


Your GPS comes set to the map datum of WGS84 at the factory, but the topo maps of Baja are drawn to the datum NAD27 (which is changed in the 'set up' programing of a GPS).

Map datum WGS84: 30°10.960'/ 115°10.074'.

Map datum NAD27 Mexico: 30-10.952'/ 115-10.033'.

elevation: 1,838'

The ruins were on the right/ south side of the road to Rancho El Metate, just past the road to the left into the palm grove, at the top of the small climb... It was less than 50 ' from the road (maybe 20') and the rooms ran about 90 feet long to the south from the road in a long rectangle, with one larger side room in the middle... see the photos above.

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[*] posted on 4-26-2008 at 04:15 PM


Hi David K. From 4/12/2008 through 4/19/2008, I went to El Rosario to visit with Mama Espinoza. I also went to Rancho El Metate. On the way I stopped off at Rancho Las Palmas to look into the rumor that the mission was plowed over. Well I am here to tell you that it is unfortunately true. I then spoke to some of the people who are part of the Ejido in the area as well as the head man of the Ejido to find out anything I could. Of course all denied knowing anything.


Running spring behind the three palm trees.







Grave just a few steps west of the old mission site.


Cactus at foot of grave.


Two graves of two sisters married to Espinoza men in the 1900s. The sisters died during childbirth. Their children are buried next to them. This is just south of the Las Palmas Ranch.



The two children of the two sisters.


Adobe Ruins just east of the grave site.




Lime oven south west of the grave site.


Here is the Mujer Dormida (Sleeping Lady) Mountain on way to Rancho El Metate San Juan De Dios.


Here is an Indian rock drawing of what appears to be a hummingbird from the spot I took the picture of the Sleeping Lady Mountain.



[Edited on 4-28-2008 by ELINVESTI8]




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Thank you David (ELINVESTI8) so very much...



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[*] posted on 4-27-2008 at 11:41 AM


Thanks Elinvest--nice to see that area again, man I miss it! Did you also explore over to Rancho Cartier by the river?
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[*] posted on 4-27-2008 at 12:05 PM


Hey what happened to the pics from Elinvest18?



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They are still there... re-boot Nomad and look again!



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[*] posted on 4-27-2008 at 06:04 PM


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Thanks Elinvest--nice to see that area again, man I miss it! Did you also explore over to Rancho Cartier by the river?


Hi Mexitron, I am sorry to say that I did not make it there. I only went to El Metate and back to El Rosario. I brought my guitar and looked for the Mexican Soldiers on the back roads so I could sing them Mexico Lindo as I had done back in December 2007, but alas they were not present.




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[*] posted on 4-27-2008 at 06:47 PM


Good job on locating the place. Is there standing water?
What a drag that sites are not all marked and otherwise protected. :no:
Dk, I think it must have been my temp filed. Once deleted no mas problemo.




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Good job on locating the place. Is there standing water?
What a drag that sites are not all marked and otherwise protected. :no:
Dk, I think it must have been my temp filed. Once deleted no mas problemo.


Sharks I really did not explore much around the spring so I could not tell you if there is any standing water. I just had a drink from the running spring and I can tell you it is some of the sweetest water I have ever drunk.




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