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Udo
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Safety while in Northern Baja
I just read a Spanish post from Eduardo De La Pena who is a member of the "bajacamping" user group in Yahoo. Eduardo regularly organizes camping trips
(all tents, no RV's) all over Baja, and he's a regular guy who tells-it-like-it-is. I really like his posts and his positive attitude. His most recent
post lists a LONG list of do's and don't's while in Northern Baja, and especially in Tijuana. I could translate it all, but it would take me
three hours to type it (i'm slow), but for those who read Spanish, here is a link to the post:
http://mx.groups.yahoo.com/group/bajacalifornias/message/824
He really has a superb way of communicating (he sounds well educated).
Udo
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Can you copy and paste his post? Can't get in to see it without joining the Yahoo Group!
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Thanx for letting me know. I am not a computer wiz, therefore I'll do my best to comply. I'm sure there is a keyboard combo to do just that, but I
have enough trouble just typing without any spelling errors.
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To the best of my ability I did a cut (ctrl X) of the email and paste on the BN board (ctrl v). But so far no luck.
Any help?
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*/El día de hoy en Oficinas Centrales DE LA PROCURADURÍA tuvimos una plática con Víctor H. Aguirre de la Cia. Vance Internacional, quien ha brindado
protección a nivel /presidencial, participado y dirigido operativos contra el crimen organizado, fungió como Agente Instructor Principal en áreas de
seguridad como: Protección a Ejecutivos, Manejo Evasivo y Seguridad Intramuros.**Fue entrenado por ex agentes de Servicio Secreto y Fuerzas
Especiales del Ejército Estadounidense. /***/** **Algunos de los tip's que mencionó y quisiera compartir con Uds. son:**1. Traer la tarjeta de
circulación en una bolsita y guardarla en la*cajuela del auto2. . Portar una sola tarjeta de crédito y por lo menos 1 mil pesos /(para tener que
entregar en caso de asalto). Recuerden que por cada tarjeta se pueden retirar 4 mil pesos, si por lo menos traen 3, valen12 mil pesos, que se pueden
convertir en 24 mil si los retienen hasta el otro día**3. . No portar tarjetas de presentación ni
fotografías de familiares en la cartera4. . No portar credencial de elector, a menos que se tenga planeado hacer algún movimiento bancario o de
otra índole en donde se ocupe5. No mostrar en la calle el teléfono celular6. . Si suena el celular y vamos caminando por la calle, debemos
pegarnos a la pared, observar hacia ambos lados, contestar y pedir a la persona que llama que marque después7. . Vestir en forma modesta**8.
Observar siempre manos y ojos de cualquier extraño que camine hacia nosotros, si trae las manos en las
bolsas posiblemente traiga un arma**9. . En un estacionamiento o en la calle, no apuntar con e l control que abre el auto a más de 50 cms del
vehículo, pues alguien puede estar observándonos.10. . En caso inevitable de ser asaltados mientras abrimos el auto levantar las manos, ver hacia
abajo (nunca ver de frente al asaltante)/ /y escuchar lo que nos demanda: Las alternativas en esta ocasión son a) / no permitir que nos suba al
auto, negociando: llévate el auto, mi dinero, cartera, etc. (98% de las personas que son subidas al auto/ mueren/ b) Repetirle siempre 'tranquilo,
haré lo que me dices'por ejemplo: 'tengo mi cartera en la bolsa /derecha y la voy a sacar'.c) En caso de que insista en subirlos al auto, fingir un
desmayo o un ataque de asma (tal vez les de una o dos patadas, pero no intentará cargarlos, lo más seguro es que se suba al auto y se vaya) 11. .
Hay que variar rutas y no ser predecible. Si vamos en el auto: a/ No verlo.
b. Generalmente llegan en diagonal, no de lado ni de frente. C.- Los lugares más comunes para asaltos son topes, cruces y
semáforos. Por lo cual hay que estar viendo por el espejo
retrovisor y los laterales/.
d.- Cristales arriba y seguros abajo/
e). No traer bolsas o chamarras a la vista, es mejor que vengan en la cajuela/
12. Cuidarse de los limpiavidrios y no permitirles que se suban al cofre (casi siempre están observando que traemos) /13. Como forma de prevención
hay que utilizar carriles centrales, /pues generalmente llegan a atacar a los autos que se encuentran en las orillas 14. **14. Dejar un metro de
distancia del auto de enfrente por
si es/necesario chocarlo para que se baje y frustre el asaltoSECUESTROS.
**Factores de riesgo:**
**1. Ir siempre por la misma ruta**
**2. Viajar solo**
**3. Frecuentar áreas inseguras**
**4. Mostrar efectos personales de alto valor (aretes, reloj,
laptops /celular, etc.)/**//
//SECUESTRO POR RESCATE
/1. Generalmente a altos ejecutivos
2. Planeados**
3. Cometidos en la cercanía de caso u oficina
4, lo cometen de 4 a 6 personas
/SECUESTRO EXPRESS: **1. Víctima seleccionada al azar****2. Cometido alrededor de un cajero automático****3. Buscan joyas y dinero rápido****4.
Víctima liberada en cuestión de horas****5. Generalmente suceden los viernes después de las 6 PM y en quincenas /SECUESTRO VIRTUAL:/1. Cuando llegan
diciendo que representan a una compañía, por ejemplo teléfonos, Televisa, o diciendo que un pariente ha tenido un accidente y que es necesario que
vaya etc.) /CAJEROS AUTOMÁTICOS/1. No ir solos, y en lo posible, no realizar retiros en las noches o quincenas2. Buscar un cajero que no
esté en un rumbo solitario o desconocido3. Cuando retiramos dinero en un banco, pedirle al cajero que cuente nuevamente en forma lenta el
dinero, no es recomendable volverlo a contar frente a los demás /PRECAUCIONES EN LUGARES PÚBLICOS:/**//**/1. En un restaurante, sentarse en un lugar
que esté cerca a una/***/ /***/salida de emergencia y en donde a la vez tengamos a la vista la entrada principal/***/**2. Caminar lo más despegados
posibles de la pared en la calle.****3. No caminar en calles oscuras.****4. Estacionarse cerca de las entradas en los centros comerciales**5. Cuando
nos pidan la hora en la calle, ignorarlos y seguirnos de** **frente, ya que no sabemos cuales son las intenciones reales.
HOTELES: **1.- Procurar instalarse en pisos del 1 al 5to. (las escaleras de los bomberos sólo llegan a esa altura) **/2.- No devolver la tarjeta de
acceso al cuarto, pues contiene toda tu/ /información personal y de crédito que puede ser usada por cualquier *persona que la obtenga. / / **/Como
experto en la materia de seguridad bien lo mencionó, 'si tienen un plan, nosotros también debemos tenerlo', así que les pido que pasen esta
información a todos sus conocidos.**/*
SALUDOS DE LUCELA
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Subject: FW: POR FAVOR TOMEN TODO EN CUENTA
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:25:45 -0700
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Subject: POR FAVOR TOMEN TODO EN CUENTA
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:25:20 -0300
Georgina
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To: netzahualcoyotlmalo@...
Subject: FW: RV: POR FAVOR TOMEN TODO EN CUENTA'mooncat_18@...'
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:17:45 -0700
*/El día de hoy en Oficinas Centrales DE LA PROCURADURÍA tuvimos una plática con Víctor H. Aguirre de la Cia. Vance Internacional, quien ha brindado
protección a nivel /presidencial, participado y dirigido operativos contra el crimen organizado, fungió como Agente Instructor Principal en áreas de
seguridad como: Protección a Ejecutivos, Manejo Evasivo y Seguridad Intramuros.**Fue entrenado por ex agentes de Servicio Secreto y Fuerzas
Especiales del Ejército Estadounidense. /***/** **Algunos de los tip's que mencionó y quisiera compartir con Uds. son:**1. Traer la tarjeta de
circulación en una bolsita y guardarla en la*cajuela del auto2. . Portar una sola tarjeta de crédito y por lo menos 1 mil pesos /(para tener que
entregar en caso de asalto). Recuerden que por cada tarjeta se pueden retirar 4 mil pesos, si por lo menos traen 3, valen12 mil pesos, que se pueden
convertir en 24 mil si los retienen hasta el otro día**3. . No portar tarjetas de presentación
ni fotografías de familiares en la cartera4. . No portar credencial de elector, a menos que se tenga planeado hacer algún movimiento bancario o
de otra índole en donde se ocupe5. No mostrar en la calle el teléfono celular6. . Si suena el celular y vamos caminando por la calle,
debemos pegarnos a la pared, observar hacia ambos lados, contestar y pedir a la persona que llama que marque después7. . Vestir en forma
modesta**8. Observar siempre manos y ojos de cualquier extraño que camine hacia nosotros, si trae las manos en las
bolsas posiblemente traiga un arma**9. . En un estacionamiento o en la calle, no apuntar con e l control que abre el auto a más de 50 cms del
vehículo, pues alguien puede estar observándonos.10. . En caso inevitable de ser asaltados mientras abrimos el auto levantar las manos, ver hacia
abajo (nunca ver de frente al asaltante)/ /y escuchar lo que nos demanda: Las alternativas en esta ocasión son a) / no permitir que nos suba al
auto,
negociando: llévate el auto, mi dinero, cartera, etc. (98% de las personas que son subidas al auto/ mueren/ b) Repetirle siempre 'tranquilo, haré
lo que me dices'por ejemplo: 'tengo mi cartera en la bolsa /derecha y la voy a sacar'.c) En caso de que insista en subirlos al auto, fingir un
desmayo o un ataque de asma (tal vez les de una o dos patadas, pero no intentará cargarlos, lo más seguro es que se suba al auto y se vaya) 11.
. Hay que variar rutas y no ser predecible. Si vamos en el auto: a/ No verlo. b.
Generalmente llegan en diagonal, no de lado ni de frente.
C.- Los lugares más comunes para asaltos son topes, cruces
y semáforos. Por lo cual hay que estar viendo por el espejo
retrovisor y los laterales/.
d.- Cristales arriba y seguros abajo/
e). No traer bolsas o chamarras a la vista, es mejor que vengan en la cajuela/
12. Cuidarse de los limpiavidrios
y no permitirles que se suban al cofre (casi siempre están observando que traemos) /13. Como forma de prevención hay que utilizar carriles centrales,
/pues generalmente llegan a atacar a los autos que se encuentran en las orillas 14. **14. Dejar un metro de distancia del auto de enfrente por si
es/necesario chocarlo para que se baje y frustre el asalto*/SECUESTROS.
**Factores de riesgo:**
**1. Ir siempre por la misma ruta**
**2. Viajar solo**
**3. Frecuentar áreas inseguras**
**4. Mostrar efectos personales de alto valor (aretes, reloj,
laptops /celular, etc.)/**//
*/
//SECUESTRO POR RESCATE
/1. Generalmente a altos ejecutivos
2. Planeados**
3. Cometidos en la cercanía de caso u oficina
4, lo cometen de 4 a 6 personas
/SECUESTRO EXPRESS: **1. Víctima seleccionada al azar****2. Cometido alrededor de un cajero automático****3. Buscan joyas y dinero
rápido****4. Víctima liberada en cuestión de horas****5. Generalmente suceden los viernes después de las 6 PM y en quincenas *//SECUESTRO VIRTUAL: /1.
Cuando llegan diciendo que representan a una compañía, por ejemplo teléfonos, Televisa, o diciendo que un pariente ha tenido un accidente y que es
necesario que vaya etc.) */ *//CAJEROS AUTOMÁTICOS/1. No ir solos, y en lo posible, no realizar retiros en las noches o quincenas2. Buscar
un cajero que no esté en un rumbo solitario o desconocido3. Cuando retiramos dinero en un banco, pedirle al cajero que cuente nuevamente en
forma lenta el dinero, no es recomendable volverlo a contar frente a los demás /PRECAUCIONES EN LUGARES PÚBLICOS:/**//
**/1. En un restaurante, sentarse en un lugar que esté cerca a una/***/
/***/salida de emergencia y en donde a la vez tengamos a la vista
la entrada principal/***/
**2. Caminar lo más despegados posibles de la pared en la calle.**
**3. No caminar en calles oscuras.**
**4. Estacionarse cerca de las entradas en los centros
comerciales*
*5. Cuando nos pidan la hora en la calle, ignorarlos y seguirnos de**
**frente, ya que no sabemos cuales son las intenciones reales.
HOTELES: **1.- Procurar instalarse en pisos del 1 al 5to. (las escaleras de los bomberos sólo llegan a esa altura) **/2.- No devolver la tarjeta de
acceso al cuarto, pues contiene toda tu/ /información personal y de crédito que puede ser usada por cualquier *persona que la obtenga. / / **/Como
experto en la materia de seguridad bien lo mencionó, 'si tienen un plan, nosotros también debemos tenerlo', así que les pido que pasen esta
información a todos sus
conocidos.**/*
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Udo
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I'll be ******!
It pays to have & read some of the computer books.............
ARRE!
[Edited on 5-21-2008 by Hose A]
Udo
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Aventurera
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Thanks...that's good information. I have to be more careful about carrying credit cards because it's true that the more you carry with you, the more
they can get from you. On the other hand, I don't even know the PINs for most of my cards since I never use them for cash withdrawals, so I'd
probably just get shot. 
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Udo
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Ey, senorita Aventurera!
I'm impressed that someone else can read and understand Spanish. I hope that other Nomads will be as well informed as you and I are.
I could be wrong...but I think that there is a way to do the same cut & paste to WORD, and then to change the language code to Spanish.
Don't ask me!
Udo
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Ken Cooke
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That's great information for everyone to keep. The website http://www.freetranslation.com/ contains a spanish to english transation dialogue box that allows translation of (most) text which is cut &
paste. Similar information appeared in the Lonely Planet guidebook of Peru. When traveling to Lima and also the Amazon last summer, I was repeatedly
reminded of these facts of life which affects everyone who lives and travels there.
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Udo
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Ey, Ken!
Excellent photo of you. It's so nice to meet a face with the name.
Udo
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
Ey, Ken!
Excellent photo of you. It's so nice to meet a face with the name. |
For more faces check under Baja Photo Gallery and click on Mugshots, revisited...
Welcome to the board.
[Edited on 5-21-2008 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
Ey, Ken!
Excellent photo of you. It's so nice to meet a face with the name. |
It's an excellent photo, because it was a picture-perfect day in Playas de Tijuana, and I find it easier to smile when in Baja.  
The information about your camping in Baja group is great. I will sign up when I get the chance. This will be a welcome addition to all of the 4WD
listserves I belong to.
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
[I just translated number 10...fulano]
10. If you cannot avoid being assaulted while opening your car, raise your hands, look down (never look at your assailant) and listen to what is
demanded of you:
Your alternatives are:
a) do not allow yourself to be put in the car, negotiate: take the car, my money, wallet, etc.. (98% of people who are put into the car die);
b) Keep repeating "stay calm, I'll do as you say", for example: "I have my wallet in my bag let me take it out";
c) In case they insist that you get into the car, feign fainting or an asthma attack (they may kick you once or twice, but not attempt to load you
into the car, it is safer that they get into the car and go). |
Hey Udo, I just noticed you live in Running Springs. I used to live there. On Glen Oak, just off of Live Oak.
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Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
[I just translated number 10...fulano]
10. If you cannot avoid being assaulted while opening your car, raise your hands, look down (never look at your assailant) and listen to what is
demanded of you:
Your alternatives are:
a) do not allow yourself to be put in the car, negotiate: take the car, my money, wallet, etc.. (98% of people who are put into the car die);
b) Keep repeating "stay calm, I'll do as you say", for example: "I have my wallet in my bag let me take it out";
c) In case they insist that you get into the car, feign fainting or an asthma attack (they may kick you once or twice, but not attempt to load you
into the car, it is safer that they get into the car and go). |
Hey Udo, I just noticed you live in Running Springs. I used to live there. On Glen Oak, just off of Live Oak. |
Hola Fulano!
I Live on Live Oak between Acorn and All View, right in the middle if the steep part that everyone hates in the winter. My driveway has seen over 150
accidents since I've lived here. In slippery conditions, I sit on a beach chair and watch the entertainment.
Udo
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bajaguy
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Is that little cafe/bakery next to (what was) the 76 station in Running Springs still open???
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
Hola Fulano!
I Live on Live Oak between Acorn and All View, right in the middle if the steep part that everyone hates in the winter. My driveway has seen over 150
accidents since I've lived here. In slippery conditions, I sit on a beach chair and watch the entertainment. |
It's a small world. I must have driven by your house a 1,000 times. My sister-in-law lives 2 blocks from you, on Summit and Live Oak.
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gringette
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Hi All - I haven't been here in a while, but been keeping an ear out for what's going on in baja... and the recent reports brought me back to read the
'inside scoop'.
i copied and pasted the post above and used "google language tools" (you can find it on the google mainpage, small type link to the right) and got
this, for all the pple like me who can't read spanish. a bit rough, but you can suss out the general info
* / Today in Central offices of the Attorney we had a chat with Victor H. Aguirre of Cia. Vance International, who has provided protection at /
presidential participated and conducted operations against organized crime, served as Chief Agent Instructor in security areas as: Executive
Protection, Management and Security evasive Intramuros .** He was trained by former agents Secret Service and U.S. Army Special Forces. /***/** **
Some of the tip that's mentioned and I would like to share with you. are:
** 1. Bring the card circulation in a bag and save it in the trunk of * auto2. . Carrying a single credit card and at least 1 thousand pesos / (for
having to surrender in case of assault). Remember that for every card can withdraw 4 thousand pesos, if at least bring 3, valen12 thousand pesos,
which can be converted into 24 thousand if retained until the other day
** 3. . Do not carry cards presentation or
photographs of relatives in the cartera4. . Not carrying voter credential, unless it has planned to make some movement or other banking where ocupe5.
Do not show your phone on the street celular6. . If the cell phone rings and we walk down the street, we stuck to the wall, to observe both sides,
answer and ask the caller who dials después7. . Dress modestly in
** 8. Observe always hands and eyes of any stranger to walk towards us, if you bring your hands on bags may bring a weapon
** 9. . In a parking lot or on the street, not to point the control that opens the car more than 50 cm of his vehicle, someone can be observándonos.
10. . If unavoidable being assaulted while we opened the car lift their hands, watching down (never see in front of the assailant) / / and listen to
what we demand: The alternatives are on this occasion) / not allow us to climb car , To negotiate: Take the car, my money, wallet, etc.. (98% of
people who are hikes to auto / die / b) Repeat always' quiet, so I'll do dices'por example: 'I have my wallet in the bag / right and I will draw'. C)
In case upload insist that the car, a pretend fainting or an asthma attack (perhaps one or two of them kicking, but not attempt to charge them, it is
safer to climb the car and go)
11. . We need to vary routes and not be predictable. If we are in the car: a Not seeing.
B. Generally arrive diagonally, rather than hand or forehead. C. - The most common assaults are caps, crossings and traffic lights. As such we must be
looking in the mirror
and side mirror.
d. - Crystals up and down insurance /
e). Do not bring bags or jackets in sight, it is better to come in the trunk /
12. Taking care of cleaner and not allow them to rise to chest (noting that almost always brings) /
13. As a means of prevention must be central to use lanes, / because usually come to attack the cars that are on the shores
14. ** 14. Leave one meter away from the car in front of
if / Choco necessary in order to get out and frustrate the asaltoSECUESTROS.
** Risk factors: **
** 1. Go provided by the same route **
** 2. Travelling only **
** 3. Frequent unsafe areas **
** 4. Show personal effects of high value (earrings, watch,
laptops / cellular, etc. .)/**//
/ / Kidnappers to rescue
/ 1. Generally senior executives
2. PLAN **
3. Tasks in the vicinity of home or office
4, is committed to 4 to 6 people
/ Secuestro Express: ** 1. Victim randomly selected **** 2. Role around an ATM **** 3. Looking for quick money and jewels **** 4. Victim released
within hours **** 5. Usually happen on Friday after 6 pm and quincenas / kidnapping VIRTUAL: / 1. When they arrive, saying they represent a company,
for instance telephones, Televisa, or saying that a relative has had an accident and that we need to go.) / ATM / 1. Do not go alone, and if possible,
not to make withdrawals at night or quincenas2. Find an ATM that is not in a course alone or desconocido3. When we withdrew money in a bank, ask the
cashier that has slowly again in the money, it is not advisable to re-count compared to others / caution in public places :/**//**/ 1. In a
restaurant, sit in a place that is close to a /***/ /***/ emergency exit and where to have time to view the main entrance /***/** 2. Walking over the
possible ends of the wall on the street .**** 3. Do not walk in dark streets .**** 4. Parking near the entrances to shopping malls ** 5. When we ask
for time on the streets, ignore them and follow ** ** front, we do not know what the real intentions.
Hotels: ** 1 .- Seek installed on floors 1 to 5th. (staircases of firefighters only reach that height) ** / 2 .- Do not return the card to access the
fourth since it contains all your / / personal information and credit that can be used by any person who obtains *. / / ** / As skilled in the art of
security as well mentioned, 'if they have a plan, we must also bear', so I ask you to pass this information to everyone you know .**/*
Spanish
setting sun deals bands of gold; there\'s velvet in eyes in mexico.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gringette
Hi All - I haven't been here in a while, but been keeping an ear out for what's going on in baja... and the recent reports brought me back to read the
'inside scoop'.
i copied and pasted the post above and used "google language tools" (you can find it on the google mainpage, small type link to the right) and got
this, for all the pple like me who can't read spanish. a bit rough, but you can suss out the general info
* / Today in Central offices of the Attorney we had a chat with Victor H. Aguirre of Cia. Vance International, who has provided protection at /
presidential participated and conducted operations against organized crime, served as Chief Agent Instructor in security areas as: Executive
Protection, Management and Security evasive Intramuros .** He was trained by former agents Secret Service and U.S. Army Special Forces. /***/** **
Some of the tip that's mentioned and I would like to share with you. are:
** 1. Bring the card circulation in a bag and save it in the trunk of * auto2. . Carrying a single credit card and at least 1 thousand pesos / (for
having to surrender in case of assault). Remember that for every card can withdraw 4 thousand pesos, if at least bring 3, valen12 thousand pesos,
which can be converted into 24 thousand if retained until the other day
** 3. . Do not carry cards presentation or
photographs of relatives in the cartera4. . Not carrying voter credential, unless it has planned to make some movement or other banking where ocupe5.
Do not show your phone on the street celular6. . If the cell phone rings and we walk down the street, we stuck to the wall, to observe both sides,
answer and ask the caller who dials después7. . Dress modestly in
** 8. Observe always hands and eyes of any stranger to walk towards us, if you bring your hands on bags may bring a weapon
** 9. . In a parking lot or on the street, not to point the control that opens the car more than 50 cm of his vehicle, someone can be observándonos.
10. . If unavoidable being assaulted while we opened the car lift their hands, watching down (never see in front of the assailant) / / and listen to
what we demand: The alternatives are on this occasion) / not allow us to climb car , To negotiate: Take the car, my money, wallet, etc.. (98% of
people who are hikes to auto / die / b) Repeat always' quiet, so I'll do dices'por example: 'I have my wallet in the bag / right and I will draw'. C)
In case upload insist that the car, a pretend fainting or an asthma attack (perhaps one or two of them kicking, but not attempt to charge them, it is
safer to climb the car and go)
11. . We need to vary routes and not be predictable. If we are in the car: a Not seeing.
B. Generally arrive diagonally, rather than hand or forehead. C. - The most common assaults are caps, crossings and traffic lights. As such we must be
looking in the mirror
and side mirror.
d. - Crystals up and down insurance /
e). Do not bring bags or jackets in sight, it is better to come in the trunk /
12. Taking care of cleaner and not allow them to rise to chest (noting that almost always brings) /
13. As a means of prevention must be central to use lanes, / because usually come to attack the cars that are on the shores
14. ** 14. Leave one meter away from the car in front of
if / Choco necessary in order to get out and frustrate the asaltoSECUESTROS.
** Risk factors: **
** 1. Go provided by the same route **
** 2. Travelling only **
** 3. Frequent unsafe areas **
** 4. Show personal effects of high value (earrings, watch,
laptops / cellular, etc. .)/**//
/ / Kidnappers to rescue
/ 1. Generally senior executives
2. PLAN **
3. Tasks in the vicinity of home or office
4, is committed to 4 to 6 people
/ Secuestro Express: ** 1. Victim randomly selected **** 2. Role around an ATM **** 3. Looking for quick money and jewels **** 4. Victim released
within hours **** 5. Usually happen on Friday after 6 pm and quincenas / kidnapping VIRTUAL: / 1. When they arrive, saying they represent a company,
for instance telephones, Televisa, or saying that a relative has had an accident and that we need to go.) / ATM / 1. Do not go alone, and if possible,
not to make withdrawals at night or quincenas2. Find an ATM that is not in a course alone or desconocido3. When we withdrew money in a bank, ask the
cashier that has slowly again in the money, it is not advisable to re-count compared to others / caution in public places :/**//**/ 1. In a
restaurant, sit in a place that is close to a /***/ /***/ emergency exit and where to have time to view the main entrance /***/** 2. Walking over the
possible ends of the wall on the street .**** 3. Do not walk in dark streets .**** 4. Parking near the entrances to shopping malls ** 5. When we ask
for time on the streets, ignore them and follow ** ** front, we do not know what the real intentions.
Hotels: ** 1 .- Seek installed on floors 1 to 5th. (staircases of firefighters only reach that height) ** / 2 .- Do not return the card to access the
fourth since it contains all your / / personal information and credit that can be used by any person who obtains *. / / ** / As skilled in the art of
security as well mentioned, 'if they have a plan, we must also bear', so I ask you to pass this information to everyone you know .**/*
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This is a good, but GENERAL translation of the original post. I really appreciate gringette for going through the trouble to translate via
the translation program.
But as most of us can see, some of the gist of the meaning is lost in the translation. I don't know if I could have done a better job, but those of us
who know the language thoroughly understand the instructions given by the writer.
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ifn you can do better, then DO IT. if not, i think i covered it with "rough translation"
duh.
setting sun deals bands of gold; there\'s velvet in eyes in mexico.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Is that little cafe/bakery next to (what was) the 76 station in Running Springs still open??? |
The little cafe is still open and, yes, the Union 76 is still there (gas is $4.09/gal/reg)
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