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David A.
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Diesel fuel prices .
I wish I was in Baja right now. I pulled away from the gas station 168 dollars less in my pocket  .
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Paulina
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You and me both! $35. yesterday gave me less than 1/4 tank.
\"Well behaved women rarely make history.\" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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Diver
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F350 Deisel here - $4.10/gallon !!
I guess I could spend $24,000 on a Prius and drive with my knees in my chest ? 
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Frank
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$4.69 a gallon in San Diego. Ill be saving money by going on vacation. Why am I still here? 
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Ken Bondy
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Most of the stations in the west San Fernando Valley are selling diesel now at $4.99/gallon. A full fill for the Hummer (42 gallons) will be over
$200. Aaaargh...
++Ken++
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losfrailes
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Oh boy. Just filled off Villa Rapida Oriente in Tijuana.
5.76/liter = 2.07 gal at 10.8 exchange rate.
Took a whole 20 minutes wait at Otay Mesa.
Glad I am close enough to do that!
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Capt. George
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well, look at it this way, we're helping George W pay for his daughters wedding....It's the least we can do for this poor oil family.
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Vince
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The real reason are the chinese, they are closing down their older coal mines and now using diesel for electricity generation. They are the second
largest users of electricity in the world so they can supply our walmarts, etc. Vicious cycle.
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bobw
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I'm paying $1.30/litre here in Canada...about $5.25 US for a US Gallon....
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bobw
I'm paying $1.30/litre here in Canada...about $5.25 US for a US Gallon.... |
that's highway robbery as I am pretty sure that Canada is a net exporter of oil, isnt it? Ya'll got refineries up there? How much of that is taxes?
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RockhouseTom
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Hey David A.
On this last trip I only had to buy 34 gallons in the U.S. filling up before crossing back and bringing 35 gallons in cans back so it was not to
bad. I saw it today in Atascadero for $4.99 per gallon. I have been driving my wife's FJ for work to soften the blow. I crossed in Tecate and had no
problem, but have heard they are stopping people with big containers of fuel.
Just one more good reason to be in Baja! 
\"FREEDOM\" William Wallace
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fulano
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If anybody is curious why diesel is so much more expensive in the US, there are a lot of reasons:
1)Diesel costs about 3 times as much per gallon to refine, mainly due to the new low-sulfur standards. These standards were passed in 2000, by the
Clinton administration -- in case Capt. George wants to blame everything on Bush.
2) The federal tax on diesel is 6 cents per gallon higher than on gasoline. Most diesel is used by truckers and trucks tear up the federal highway
system a lot faster than cars, so they are charged more.
3) Most of the increased world demand for oil is in the form of diesel. Half the cars in Europe now are diesel because they get such better mileage.
4) Diesel has about 15% more energy per gallon than gasoline. So a gallon of diesel does more work that a gallon of gas.
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jodiego
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
A full fill for the Hummer (42 gallons) will be over $200. Aaaargh...
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castaway$
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Love my Powerstroke I just don't like getting bent over at the pump to the tune of $150 a whack, if I'm going to get screwed this isn't my fantasy,
you gotta love the oil industry and their record profits!!!!
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Russ
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Biodiesel sucks!
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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Pescador
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
If anybody is curious why diesel is so much more expensive in the US, there are a lot of reasons:
1)Diesel costs about 3 times as much per gallon to refine, mainly due to the new low-sulfur standards. These standards were passed in 2000, by the
Clinton administration -- in case Capt. George wants to blame everything on Bush.
2) The federal tax on diesel is 6 cents per gallon higher than on gasoline. Most diesel is used by truckers and trucks tear up the federal highway
system a lot faster than cars, so they are charged more.
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That is not correct about refining costs. It is still much cheaper to refine and develop than regular unleaded gasoline even with the new low sulfur
levels. It is simply marketed with a higher cost because it is tolerated, for the most part. Large companies like municipalities and farmer's coops
are buying bulk in a much lower price that we see at the pump.
2. In Arizona they have actually split the cost up and if you fill up your diesel rig at the semi-truck pump you end up paying a little more than 8
cents a gallon more than car and pickup diesel. What a sensible way to do things. Isn't that the state that produced the sherrif that makes the
inmates live in a tent city and has a senator that is running for president.
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
That is not correct about refining costs. It is still much cheaper to refine and develop than regular unleaded gasoline even with the new low sulfur
levels. It is simply marketed with a higher cost because it is tolerated, for the most part. Large companies like municipalities and farmer's coops
are buying bulk in a much lower price that we see at the pump. |
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
Cost to refine a gallon of gas is about 1/2 the cost to refine a gallon of diesel. Just because diesel comes off lower in the refraction column does
not make it cheaper anymore. The new federal sulfur standards, which kicked in in 2006, are only 15 PPM. That is only 5% of the old standards. That
takes some extra processing.
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ElFaro
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FYI...
I know some folks who purchased a nice chrome diamond plated 200 gal. tank that fits like a truck box in the back of their diesel truck right behind
the cab. He goes down to Tecate one a week and fills up on diesel. As long as its for personal consumption it's OK.
If truckers were to try that with big-rig truck tractors they are slapped with a tax upon entering back into the U.S....this I'm told by some Mexican
truckers working up here in U.S.
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ElFaro
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Oh...I forgrot to add...
A few years back this guy decided to go all diesel for the family (Dodge Ram 2500 w/ Cummins (Dad) and a Ford Excursion (Mom) - diesel). So basically
he's committed to the Tecate weekly fuel run. He has a pump on the tank to dispense fuel. They live out in the backcountry along Hwy. 94.
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beercan
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George, Can you blame this on Bush ??
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I'm paying $1.30/litre here in Canada...about $5.25 US for a US Gallon....
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