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puzzled.gif posted on 5-23-2008 at 12:43 PM
The Baja ?


:?: More and more I am seeing the term "The Baja" to refer to all of BC and BCS ....
What do you think of this term .....
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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 01:13 PM


It depends if it is said by a Canadian or not! :biggrin:

As in the phrase, "I will be traveling on the Baja for 2 months" Yech!
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OK to me is when it means a feeling, like "The Baja experience is awesome"

OK also is 'The Baja' when used as an abbreviation for The Baja Peninsula... as in I'm heading down to the Baja for some camping... although I personally just say 'Baja' without 'the' in front.

Or, as an abbreviation for one of the Baja races, as in "I want to race the Baja".

It was my CB handle, and when CA plates increased to 7 characters in 1980: :lol::light::o

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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 01:31 PM


nothing wrong with it here............sorry Jimmy.........:saint:

i have been flying...."the baja" since 1980!

i also like to go to Old Mexico.....:lol:




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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:21 PM


"THE" Baja is definatly a new way of saying it. Probably popularized by articles in magazines from the East . Most are used to saying just "Baja". Now they are interchangable altho "THE" is not as popular.
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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:27 PM


Hah...Vince, I can just see us sitting around the campfire conversations years ago ..actually a few decades now...and talking about 'the Baja'. Hoo-boy, old Blackjack would have spit some Beechnut in our eyes.

The term did go with racing, though...The Baja 500-1000, etc...plus our own, The Baja 17.

Other than that, though....

Thinking about it today, however....I think it fits with the new arrivals. It's their adventure now and they will give it their own nomenclature.


Just don't say it around my campfire....I have Beechnut.;D

p.s guess which 'The Dakota' is?




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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:29 PM


Jimmy Smith hated the term 'The Baja'! :lol:

Here was his logic, as illustrated by Dave Deal in Jimmy's book 'The Grinning Gargoyle Spills the Beans and other Yarns of Baja California' c2001 (available from www.mibaja.com):

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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:31 PM
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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:35 PM


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"THE" Baja is definatly a new way of saying it. Probably popularized by articles in magazines from the East . Most are used to saying just "Baja". Now they are interchangable altho "THE" is not as popular.


I have to disagree with you on it being the "new way of saying it." The phrase has been around for a while, perhaps the saying is recycled every now and then. The reason I say this is because both "Old Mexico" boys, Don Jimmy Smith and Fred Hoctor didn't think to kindly of the phrase, "THE Baja" and it's been a few years now since they've passed. Just my two pesos.

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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:38 PM


Nice DK! That just about sums it up perfectly!



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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 02:41 PM


Yah, we used 'The Baja' back in the 70's all the time... long before we ever heard Canadians saying it. High Karate Aftershave had a commercial showing an eskimo running down the dirt main Baja road, passing broken race buggies, prospectors, cactus... saying that their new aftershave kept the eskimo so cool, it was the aftershave that 'BEAT THE BAJA'!

The Baja 1000 was a pretty exciting race in the early days, when they raced Hwy. 1 from Ensenada south... and the pavement ended before Colonet.




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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 03:30 PM


Like Jimmy, I've always hated it.:fire:

I'm sure those who use it out of ignorance do not intend disrespect. But, as any Ukrainian or Argentinian can tell you, it is a diminutive which affords less respect than that due a sovereign state, the implication being it's "only" a geographic region. In other words, it's an insult.

Example: My wife is from Hidalgo. There is a beautiful region covering parts of Hidalgo, Vera Cruz and San Luis Potosi known as "La Huasteca". It's pefectly OK to say "The Huasteca" because it is a region. But nobody says "El Hidalgo". It's a state. It's just not done.

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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 04:51 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon
:?: More and more I am seeing the term "The Baja" to refer to all of BC and BCS ....
What do you think of this term .....


"baja" is an adjective. More logical to refer to it as "the baja"...
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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 05:44 PM


"The North Dakata?"
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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 05:53 PM


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"The North Dakata?"


We came down from Flathead County( Montana).

The Flathead? Yep.

I don't care what people call this place, it's some of their real estate investment inspired descriptions and blatant name changes that bug me.

"Bay of Dreams," anyone?

Sign on Loreto's newest Real Estate office: "Nature As You Always Dreamed It"


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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 06:28 PM


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"The North Dakata?"


well dan...close enough.

factoid: And...'The Dakota' is also a luxury apartment building in NYC's Upper West Side where John Lennon lived..and where he was killed by a gunman 28 years ago.




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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 06:38 PM


THE baja?

WTF??????




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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 06:54 PM


On David's map we can clearly see the Baja Peninsula and the Yucatan Peninsula. People often say the Yucatan too.

But just as Yucatan is the name of the state on that peninsula, so Baja is a place unto itself, part of Mexico but separate, consisting of two states.

So to me, Baja is Baja, Yucatan is Yucatan, and in both cases you would use "the" only when including the word peninsula.

factoid: No man is an island, he's a peninsula-- according to Frank Zappa:dudette:




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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 07:09 PM


Ah - my dad hated "Suzie Creamcheeze' - which, of course, meant I played "Hot Rats" every chance I got.



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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 07:10 PM


I'll chime in... If I'm talking to non- travellers, I'll say "THE Baja" so they might have a frame of reference; people that I think will understand, I just say "Baja" or the rare few "La Paz".... the more you know me, the less I have to explain...
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[*] posted on 5-23-2008 at 07:55 PM


The Baja Peninsula works o.k. for me. Down in Baja also works fine. "I'm from Baja" is comfortable as is "Yo Soy de Baja".

Referring to Baja as The Baja doesn't really work for me, but it wouldn't make me cringe if I heard it, or send me into a tissey fit. But it certainly always brings the Ol Man to mind, and a chuckle along with it, it was after all one of Don Jimmy's favorite pet peeve.
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