Oso
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All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Von
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Good for them!
READY SET.....................
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Diver
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Good for them ?????
Yes, lets make all the border crosser's lives miserable and maybe we can get our electric bills lowered ?
Right !?
I'd turn off the power !! 
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Al G
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There is no stopping some people from protesting for more "something for nothing"...if the government paid them to use electricity (more then they
already are) they would protest they were not being paid enough...
Edit: not meant to be a political statement only a statment of fact...
[Edited on 7-8-2008 by Al G]
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Bajajack
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Cut em off!
If the utilities would start cracking down on the ones who steal it outright with illegal hookups and the other half who never seem to pay they could
probably lower the rates.
However, it being Mexico and all this will never happen!
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woody with a view
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3 words.........
get a job. if you can afford to miss work to protest high electricity prices, good for you. otherwise shut up and get to work.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
If the utilities would start cracking down on the ones who steal it outright with illegal hookups and the other half who never seem to pay they could
probably lower the rates.
However, it being Mexico and all this will never happen! |
Bajajack, thank you for the only sane comment in this thread.
CaboRon
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Bajajack
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Try reading the whole thing Lencho
It's not about the Gringo Enclave of La Paz, It's border towns in Sonora, big difference.
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Oso
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Lencho,
I don't really know what the rates are on the other side. I'll try to look into it. I know that there are often lots of complaints about it in
Mexicali, San Luis and the valley between them.
In San Luis, AZ, I pay APS an "evened out" year-round rate of $128, currently. It used to run just under $200 in summer and less than $100 in winter.
My wife stays home, so it's on all the time. BUT, it's a small house and I did the insulation myself when we built because I wasn't happy with the
sloppy "tear it, jam it and cram it" workmanship I saw in local construction, so the house is very well insulated. People who build single wall
masonry, block or Mexican brick (still legal here) pay $300+ in summer. I would guess most homes on the other side are similarly constructed.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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oldlady
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1. In the most recent billing cycle the rates decreased on the basico and intermedio rate steps. In addition the number of kWh allowed in each of
these rate steps increased dramatically (basico more than doubled, intermedio quadrupled, the highest rate step increased six tenths of one percent!).
The highest rate step increased very slightly. At the time, about 10 days ago, there was a 3 day buzz about how low the bills were.
2. If you don't pay the bill on time the electricity is immediately cut off. So, rates are not expensive because people are not paying their bills.
3. Unlike Lencho I have seen one illegal hook-up. A gringo. Got away with it for about 2 months and then was nailed....big time.
So, Blackjack and CaboRon, if you want to bash Baja, find some facts or pick something other than CFE.
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tripledigitken
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"Gringo enclave" intrigues me. What the heck does that mean?
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Didn't the venerable JR coin that phrase?
Ken
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Mango
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Well, just an FYI. It's hot out here in the desert this time of the year. 110 deg F -120 deg F most days. Most of the year my electrical bill is
less than $40 a month. During the summer months it can top $500+(Which is more than I pay for rent).
I know that is how its going to be when the A/C is on most of the time during the late afternoon and at night when I sleep... but once it goes off it
only takes about 10 minutes for our place to turn into an oven. The only time during the summer it is not running is from about 5am to 1 pm.
Our place is 1/2 covered by a big shade tree, I've put enough mylar bubble wrap in the windows to attract any low flying UFO's, and never run lights.
But it's next to impossible to keep the electrical bill low this time of the year.
For me, it's a problem I can deal with. But, for many poor hard working or elderly people (that often walk, bus, ride bikes to work in 120 heat) it
is almost impossible to deal with the cost of their electrical bills during the summer. Sure.. just shut it off... let the 90 year old lady and the
two week old baby swelter in 120+ degree heat.
I find it funny how people want to blame the Mexicans for complaining about high energy costs; but, then turn around an moan about paying for gas for
their bloated $40,000 SUV's
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Perhaps what the government should be doing instead of addressing more rate subsidies, is subsidizing efficient dwelling construction; ie insulation,
orientation, shading, etc. It IS possible to build a dwelling which requires minimal air conditioning in this climate, but hardly anyone is doing so.
--Larry |
I agree completely. I didn't build the place I'm in now or I would have done it much differently. Most people around here don't build their own
places...so they don't have much choice in the matter. Nowdays the developers down here are just churning out inefficient cookie cutter boxes with no
access to public transit. (Which is way overpriced here in Mexicali). They are in it to make a buck, thats all. It's not their fault, the consumer
could go buy something thats not being built instead.
I've walked a few miles in a several different pairs of shoes...sometimes barefoot. In case some of your are unaware, most people here don't have the
access to money, employment, or resources that we do up north.
The guy that does the maintenance here at my apartment complex lost his vision in an accident several years ago while working as a truck mechanic.
Now he sees just well enough to ride his bike several miles from his house, carrying supplies to wash cars, and sweep up leafs before he goes to his
job at Burger King. He works very hard, and makes very little money.
Most of people here "have jobs" and don't steal electricity. They are hard working and honest people. They didn't have money from "mommy and daddy"
and/or access to college, (my girlfriend has a degree and still makes very little money here).
Next time your sitting on your bum in Mexico drinking a c-cktail on the beach, some of you really should open your eyes and see all the locals busting
a** all around you just trying to survive. 
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Baja&Back
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
Next time your sitting on your bum in Mexico drinking a c-cktail on the beach, some of you really should open your eyes and see all the locals busting
a** all around you just trying to survive. |
Well said, Mango!!!
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rob
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I always wish I could remember details in discussions like these - but someone told me last week that Mexicali gets a special CFE tariff in summer,
whereas La Paz misses it by a degree or two.
Here on the Pacific coast, our (bimonthly) CFE bill runs about $230MN in winter and soars to $260MN (August last year) because of the fans.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
Well, just an FYI. It's hot out here in the desert this time of the year. 110 deg F -120 deg F most days. Most of the year my electrical bill is
less than $40 a month. During the summer months it can top $500+(Which is more than I pay for rent).
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Mango, in Mexicali there are many months of low-humidity heat. If you have not already done so, you should investigate putting in a window swamp
cooler to supplement the refrigerant A/C. It only costs a fraction of what A/C costs to run and works very well in the dry heat. When you get the
monsoon heat (humid) it's not so good.
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Mango
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Thanks for the tip. We have bars on all our windows here and this will be our last summer in this apartment/Mexicali. So I'll just bite the bullet
for now.
I do have a big fan and have been thinking of rigging up some sort of homemade swamp cooler; I'm back to work up north pretty soon for work and our
electrical bill drops when I not around running the A/C during the day. 
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Wiles
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Why not a portable swamp cooler for slightly over $100?
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