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palmeto99
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
The Baja California peninsula is a beautiful place! Even with the recent spurt in development there is still close to 2000 miles of pristine
coastline, a mountain range, and both barren and beautiful deserts with an occasional oasis.
I too appreciate this thread. Recently there has been a single member of this message board seemingly dead set on daily postings of bad news resulting
from the illegal drug trade. If I may speak for others, I think we're all well aware of this. And speaking for myself, I find the posts depressing.
May I suggest that nobody responds to Fulano's posts so they fall into the abyss. I'm not saying ignore the truth of the situation, I'm just saying
let that type of news stay on the million other websites where it exists today.
Also, let's not discuss my suggestion, either follow it or not, your choice, of course.
[Edited on 7-16-2008 by k-rico] |
Yes, Lets stick our heads in the sand and pretend Mexico is not in a war with the cartels. If we pretend it is not there, the bad,bad men will go
away. Lets also invite the terrorists in the middle east to a peace forum and end this war on terror for good. No swords or sharp instruments allowed
please.(just in case) Where are you from.?
San Francisco...
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Yes, Lets stick our heads in the sand and pretend Mexico is not in a war with the cartels. If we pretend it is not there, the bad,bad men will go
away. Lets also invite the terrorists in the middle east to a peace forum and end this war on terror for good. No swords or sharp instruments allowed
please.(just in case) Where are you from.?
San Francisco... |
I think this is a perfect example of what separates us on the subject. Nobody here is advocating (or at least I missed that post) that we "stick our
heads in the sand" or "pretend a problem is not there".
As I posted in another thread, I think that being informed is a good thing so that Nomads as well as lurkers reading the forum have a balanced idea of
what the reality of life and travel on the Baja peninsula is like.
All I ask is that we don't convert BN into "All the Negative News that Can be Found Anywhere on the Internet Forum". Lately that seems to be the
direction where we are going. Maybe some of you were actually drawn to the forum for reading just those kind of posts. Personally, I was not.
I hoped to find a balance of news along with stories about life, travel, living, climate, fishing, adapting and resources for those of us who enjoy
spending time and in my case living in this little part of the world for several years. It is a great place to meet and share stories and photos as
well as news that is important and that which may directly affect the quality of our lives, whether it be as tourists or residents.
I have made several connections with new friends here and some who I have yet to meet in person. Here on BN it gives me a chance to keep connected
with them and I enjoy the forum that Doug has given us to do so. All I ask is that we find a way to keep a sense of balance. Where we disagree I ask
that we try to do so in a civil way without resorting to insults or personal attacks. I am committed to do so on my end and ask others here to join
me.
The other road is to allow this forum to fall into the trap where endless other forums have died via flaming wars and that is something I just find
boring. That is the quickest way to kill off a forum such as this. I think we are better than that and Baja deserves better. I say we find middle road
where we can stay informed, safe, entertained and enjoyable for all.
What do you say to that?
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Barry A.
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Amen Baja Gringo!!!!!
Barry
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I agree with BajaGringo’s assessment of the situation and also pledge to be civil and respectful to others even if I disagree with them.
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Bajagypsy
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Having made such wonderful friends that are more like family than friends. Shari and Juan, what we would do without you I have no idea, we would
NEVER, have our dream lot, or the experiences you and our other Baja friends have given us.
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redmesa
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Almost everything is right about Baja!
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
All I ask is that we don't convert BN into "All the Negative News that Can be Found Anywhere on the Internet Forum". Lately that seems to be the
direction where we are going. .
What do you say to that? |
Why aren't you posting the good news, Ron? All you've been doing is following the parade down the street and dodging the elephant poop. Get out in
front and lead. You have the same power I have. You can post too. On that same note, why isn't everybody who is whining about my posts out there
posting the good news?
When people complain about MY posts, yet cannot find anything good to post, that is just another way of trying to "control the message", n'est ce pas?
On another note, has everybody noticed now many new posters have been showing up recently who said they have been lurking for a long time? It seems to
me, at least, that elevating the dialogue beyond "Who has the best fish tacos" has drawn in many more people to this message board.
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palmeto99
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Location: loreto,BCS and East Coast USA (Spartanburg, SC)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
All I ask is that we don't convert BN into "All the Negative News that Can be Found Anywhere on the Internet Forum". Lately that seems to be the
direction where we are going. .
What do you say to that? |
Why aren't you posting the good news, Ron? All you've been doing is following the parade down the street and dodging the elephant poop. Get out in
front and lead. You have the same power I have. You can post too. On that same note, why isn't everybody who is whining about my posts out there
posting the good news?
When people complain about MY posts, yet cannot find anything good to post, that is just another way of trying to "control the message", n'est ce pas?
On another note, has everybody noticed now many new posters have been showing up recently who said they have been lurking for a long time? It seems to
me, at least, that elevating the dialogue beyond "Who has the best fish tacos" has drawn in many more people to this message board.
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I could not agree more. Post something positive as I have been looking as well and I am having trouble finding anything positive .
Maybe someone out there can do the digging.
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BajaGringo
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Fulano / Nancy:
My point is that it doesn't all have to be about "news", good or bad. I get plenty of "news" all day and I come to Baja Nomad to enjoy the company of
friends who share an interest in Baja. We all have different viewpoints, experiences, perspectives and opinions. I am not trying to "control" any
message. There is benefit to be had from news and I will say it again, I think it is good for us to be up on what is happening. All of us have
benefited from the news and alerts posted here on some level.
All I ask is that we don't make posting news articles the primary and sole purpose of BN. Personally, I find it boring after awhile. Reading other
comments I am not alone.
My opinion matters little here and the forum will go where it goes no matter what either of us think Nancy. I am just sharing my dos centavos in an
attempt to suggest some moderation and civility to a forum I have really enjoyed with some great folks up until now.
I'll let you have the last word...
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Fulano / Nancy:
All I ask is that we don't make posting news articles the primary and sole purpose of BN. Personally, I find it boring after awhile. Reading other
comments I am not alone.
I'll let you have the last word... |
Fulano's last word:
Ron, there are 40 forums on BN. I only post on about 4 (10%) of them. So maybe you need to explain to us all how you think "news" becomes the sole
purpose of BN? What are the other 36 forums about? Fish tacos?
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redmesa
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Location: Van Isle and Bahia Asuncion
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I do not get it??
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
May I suggest that nobody responds to Fulano's posts so they fall into the abyss.
[Edited on 7-16-2008 by k-rico] |
The is an open forum k-rico .....
We will respond to whatever we want.....
The only one who can censure posts is Mr. Means and his appointed moderators...
Go stuff it .....
CaboRon
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shari
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some of us have tried to post positive baja stories but then we get dissed and insulted by the newscasters...accused of sticking our head in the sand.
I'm WELL aware of the bad things about Baja, I've lived here nearly 20 years and could tell ya some doozies...but I won't...they are personal and not
to be tossed around the internet...but I'm still here and love it more than I did when I was young and naive.
Fulano/Nancy et al....OK....truce...I will grin and bear your bad news with grace but PLEASE PLEASE just stop insulting people....it's really
maddening. We don't all have time to search the net for bad news nor do we want to...so thanks for informing us but just try to be nice of "the
others".
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guadalupe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Fulano / Nancy:
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Fulano is a woman named Nancy? Am I missing something?
You may only post in 4 sections but in the time I have been here I seem to see more of your constant posts about the same thing over and over than
much else sometimes.
I am curious, what is your experience with Baja? Do you live in Baja now? If so, why? If not, why not?
Are you a man or woman?
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redmesa
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Hmmm!
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fulano
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Somebody else doesn't LIKE me:
"Subject: not only are you depressing
From: k-rico
To: fulano
Folder: Inbox
Sent: at 7-17-2008 at 02:14 AM
you're ugly too!
http://www.ensenada.com/interviews/nancy.jpg
go away please. Further than Ramona."
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palmeto99
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Location: loreto,BCS and East Coast USA (Spartanburg, SC)
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Ouch, Thats going to leave a mark..
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Fulano/Nancy et al....OK....truce...I will grin and bear your bad news with grace but PLEASE PLEASE just stop insulting people....it's really
maddening. We don't all have time to search the net for bad news nor do we want to...so thanks for informing us but just try to be nice of "the
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Shari, you were starting to get the idea. You started that thread about "nice things in Baja" and I didn't rain on your parade. And please reread my
posts some other day when you are calmer. You will find that I do not draw first blood. I gave everybody a chance to show where I was the one who
picked a fight and they could not. It turned out that it was one of your long-term Nomads who started with the obscenities.
You are emotional...your posts are passionate...there is nothing especially wrong with that. You are a woman, you speak from the heart. (I'm not being
macho -- we all need the ying to balance the yang).
Calmate muchacha, piense mas y sea tranquilo.
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Ouch, Thats going to leave a mark.. |
I was thinking we should rename him "k-podrido".
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
Somebody else doesn't LIKE me:
"Subject: not only are you depressing
From: k-rico
To: fulano
Folder: Inbox
Sent: at 7-17-2008 at 02:14 AM
you're ugly too!
http://www.ensenada.com/interviews/nancy.jpg
go away please. Further than Ramona." |
k-rico is a jerk,
Sending emails at two in the morning saying you are ugly ? and you should go away .... is that the best he can do ?? .... maybe needs to go to
creativity and imagination school.
Typical of persons who respond emotionally without any thought before putting foot firmly in mouth.
CaboRon
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