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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 09:24 PM
LETS ALL START TO TELL THE TRUTH


Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true.
Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues.

There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into.
While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people, :cool:Post it..

[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]

[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:02 PM


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Originally posted by palmeto99
Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true.
Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues.


OK. Dennis. You start.




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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:09 PM


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Dennis. You start.


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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:16 PM
Whats the point


Quote:
Originally posted by palmeto99
Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true.
Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues.

There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into.
While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people, :cool:Post it..

[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]

[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]
In telling the truth, if it's anything derogatory about precious baja it will just be deleted. But of course you already figured that out I'm sure.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:19 PM


I am sure that most if not all will see that this is not an attack
on the board but a wealth of info for the new nomad members...:cool:
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:25 PM
BN has turned into


a good old boy's forum, if ya ain't old and ya dont suck up a lot then you're on the s**t list.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:33 PM


As soon and I and others started on this board, we were on the special list..:lol::lol::cool:
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 10:36 PM


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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 06:27 AM


It is near folly to try to enlighten people about how things work in Baja California because it is unique and diverse. Try this: see if you can answer those same questions about the U.S. Start by asking people how you get a building permit in Chicago, Seattle, Owlsbreath, Idaho. A building permit to do what, when, where? What's your interest in the property, the improvements? Need a set of plans? Maybe in Oxnard but not Possum Tail. No two areas are alike, no two villages are the same, dead bang forever rules in San Quintin are unheard of drivel in Turtle Bay. Some judge in Todos Santos is a drunk pediphile, a cop in San Bruno should get the Nobel Peace prize.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 07:00 AM


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It is near folly to try to enlighten people about how things work in Baja California because it is unique and diverse. Try this: see if you can answer those same questions about the U.S. Start by asking people how you get a building permit in Chicago, Seattle, Owlsbreath, Idaho. A building permit to do what, when, where? What's your interest in the property, the improvements? Need a set of plans? Maybe in Oxnard but not Possum Tail. No two areas are alike, no two villages are the same, dead bang forever rules in San Quintin are unheard of drivel in Turtle Bay. Some judge in Todos Santos is a drunk pediphile, a cop in San Bruno should get the Nobel Peace prize.
Want better/more answers? Ask better questions. We will each give you what it's like where we live and you'll have answers that are good by location/time/circurstance but only from how the giving Nomad sees it.


Good stuff Osprey.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 07:32 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by palmeto99
Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true.
Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues.

There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into.
While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people, :cool:Post it..

[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]

[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]


For having been on the forum for less than two weeks you really have figured it out, you think.

This board was of great help when I moved down and I am sure the information is still there if you would care to do a search.

EVERY day in Mexico you will get different answers for the same question .... because the gov't officers are out of control and aparently do not have the same set of regulations ... or more likely the bottom line clerk is empowered to change policy. .. if he can scam a buck for himself.

The Forum is functioning and well.

Why don't you kick back and check the scene out before you start making policy for the rest of us.

In other words blow it out your burro....:lol:

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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 08:43 AM


Osprey makes a really valid point. The things I hear going on in Loreto are so different that it almost seems like another country and I get the feeling they are going to annex Ensenada and Tijuana into southern California any day now. I read the Gringo gazette (when someone brings a copy north) and love to just look at the advertisements for dog sitters and massage therapists, etc., and wonder why we don't have any of those things in our little village. Then someone posts about what is going on in Mulege which must be light years away from Santa Rosalia. Just because there is a political boundary does little to describe the uniqueness that each little area displays. I suspect that Palmeto is wanting to catagorize, organize, and alphabetize all that goes on with Baja, but as soon as we do that the whole thing will change anyway.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 09:20 AM


Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues

These are almost all issues that would mostly interest expats who live or want to live in Baja CA - not the traveler, vacationer, fisherman, explorer, recreation seeker. While this site is for all things Baja, I think most people don't care about these issues - I certainly don't.
Maybe some expat needs to start their own website and forum for you people who want to discuss your particular issues. Take a look at the Baja Western Onion, or the Todos Santos newpaper. You people need to speak among yourselves for your own enlightenment within your own communities.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 09:32 AM


That has been a big problem from my viewpoint ....

Maybe we need a forum for people who actually live in La Baja or are in the process ....

I find the majority of posters are either not in Baja California or only spend a few months a year here ....

We face different issues and problems ....

Brings to mind a post the other day of a guy telling about the ultimate bug repellent and then commented you can get it at high end health stores in the US .... What good does that do us who live full time in Mexico ????

Just a thought :cool:

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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 12:17 PM


What is a "veteran on this board"..please specify...when I answer a question posed here, I answer to the best of my knowledge at that time...things change rapidly and often so sometimes what is said can be wrong a few days later but I have never inteded to deceive, lie, sugar coat anything here but tell it like it is in our area. I would hesitate to call BS on someone elses post in another area, but would be happy to offer more current or updated info as well as discuss what I personally have experienced to be true, which is the best I can do. We are fortunate to have a good mix on this board in lots of different area of Baja so we have up to date road, weather, crime, scam and political info that may help newbies, tourists and residents alike avoid possible problems.



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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 12:41 PM


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I find the majority of posters are either not in Baja California or only spend a few months a year here ....


Ouch! Sooo, what does that mean Ron?? That we can't understand completely till we're full-time? Perhaps you're right!
So I won't "get it" till then? Cmon, we're not all that dense.




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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 12:50 PM


What Shari said....me too



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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 12:55 PM


I think it is more of a qualitative issue than a quantitative issue.

There are people who may have lived 25-years in Baja...all in an ex-pat community and who get all their information from the ex-pat barfly on the stool next to them. And there are other people who may have only been there a year, married to a latina/o living in a Mexican colonia with a large Mexican family who are far more "tuned-in".

All I am saying is that time-in-country is not the deciding factor.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 01:07 PM


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I find the majority of posters are either not in Baja California or only spend a few months a year here ....


Ouch! Sooo, what does that mean Ron?? That we can't understand completely till we're full-time? Perhaps you're right!
So I won't "get it" till then? Cmon, we're not all that dense.


All I am saying Shari , is the concerns and needs vary dramatically , for one it is a vacation , and for the other it is home.

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[*] posted on 7-18-2008 at 01:09 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by wilderone
Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues

These are almost all issues that would mostly interest expats who live or want to live in Baja CA - not the traveler, vacationer, fisherman, explorer, recreation seeker. While this site is for all things Baja, I think most people don't care about these issues - I certainly don't.
Maybe some expat needs to start their own website and forum for you people who want to discuss your particular issues. Take a look at the Baja Western Onion, or the Todos Santos newpaper. You people need to speak among yourselves for your own enlightenment within your own communities.


Why limit the information available? I don't read every article in a newspaper either, just the ones that I find of personal interest. Same with this board. I think the scope of the Nomads is properly defined and would not want to see it narrowed. If there is enough interest in a more focused forum, someone will start it.


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Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true.


Seems to me that 'untrue' statements made on this board are quite often 'corrected', sometimes erroneously. What's true for me may not be true for everyone. I have no problem with someone contradicting what I say (no matter how ridiculous they may sound :lol: ) as long as they are not rude about it.

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