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Osprey
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I'll be Okay with all of this if I'm still gonna be allowed to exagerate, twist and play with truth at all times as I've done in the past.
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eetdrt88
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does this apply to fishing tales and revealing secret surf spots,if so im not in 
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I'll be Okay with all of this if I'm still gonna be allowed to exagerate, twist and play with truth at all times as I've done in the past.
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Sure George just be sure to spell exaggerate correctly when you give us a good story!
exagerateDefinition from Wiktionary, a free dictionaryJump to: navigation, search
[edit] English
[edit] Verb to exagerate
Common misspelling of exaggerate.
Soory, couldn't resisst!
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Osprey
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It's a numbers thing. I just missed it this once. I bet I've spelled it right about ten million times. Sheesh!
And Sharks, do we really, really need that second G?
[Edited on 7-18-2008 by Osprey]
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jeans
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
What is a "veteran on this board"..please specify... |
....one who has survived many wars on this board (and the Amigos de Baja before it)....10 years now.
But Ciriosly.....
Labels do not do anyone justice...they only serve to divide. Squabbles like this are almost comical in their predictability.
New kid comes to the playground
Territorial "Home Boys" notice new kid
Someone starts kicking sand (have been started by both sides over the years)
Turf wars start that includes name-calling, clever (to the originator) adaptations of interloper's name
Someone calls the playground supervisor
There is a suggestion to create another playground.
More suggestions to "just get along" "don't read their posts" "Let's bannish them".
Someone starts a poll
Rigthteous condemnations regarding censorship.
Someone threatens to leave
Someone gets sent to the corner (or goes voluntarily)
Peace is restored...until the next time
Repeat...
just my dos centavos...
(edited to add to the list)
[Edited on 7-18-2008 by jeans]
Mom always told me to be different - Now she says...Not THAT different
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I'll be Okay with all of this if I'm still gonna be allowed to exagerate, twist and play with truth at all times as I've done in the past.
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Permission granted, however you spell it.
For posterity, my response to the first post on this thread is as follows:
Getting the posters on this board (or its predecessor) to all act of one mind would make herding 2,000 cats look easy by comparison. Good luck with
that.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DanO
Getting the posters on this board (or its predecessor) to all act of one mind would make herding 2,000 cats look easy by comparison. Good luck with
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You may be right.
The visual image is great, trying to herd 2,000 cats. I was trying to figure out how to count that many cats in one herd. Finally it dawned on me,
count the legs and divide by 4.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Oso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true.
Home ownership issues
Lease property issues
Immigration issues
Crime reports that are true
corrupt police
Fido issues
Eijdo property issues
Mexican Citizenship issues.
There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many
newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into.
While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over
the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of
Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so
there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people,
 Post it..
[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99]
[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] |
Bite me.
(Just trying to get the spirit) 
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Sharksbaja
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Holy Cow Osprey, when did start being serious!!
I just thought the timing was perfect, lo siento.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
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Viva Mulege!
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeans
Squabbles like this are almost comical in their predictability.
New kid comes to the playground
Territorial "Home Boys" notice new kid
Someone starts kicking sand (have been started by both sides over the years)
Turf wars start that includes name-calling, clever (to the originator) adaptations of interloper's name
Someone calls the playground supervisor
There is a suggestion to create another playground.
More suggestions to "just get along" "don't read their posts" "Let's bannish them".
Someone starts a poll
Rigthteous condemnations regarding censorship.
Someone threatens to leave
Someone gets sent to the corner (or goes voluntarily)
Peace is restored...until the next time
Repeat...
just my dos centavos...
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Jean: this is quite possibly the most prescient post I have ever seen on BN. It's a perfect summary of the human condition. I nominate it for the
Hall of Fame.
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Osprey
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Sharks, I'm not serious. That's Oso who said "bite me"
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Keri
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Jeans, You hit the nail on the head perfectly
Let's hope we are at the end of this sequence I don't want to see Nomads die like Amigos,k
[Edited on 7-19-2008 by Keri]
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
That has been a big problem from my viewpoint ....
Maybe we need a forum for people who actually live in La Baja or are in the process... |
Kinda like a virtual gated community full of foreigners where the members can feel comfortable in their own culture and exchange information about the
environment outside the gates. 
--Larry |
Larry,
You totally misunderstood the statement.
CaboRon
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palmeto99
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I guess most on this board missed the point on this thread.
Here are two examples of what I was talking about. In the last 3 weeks there were a couple of threads about buying property in Mexico which involved a
palapa sale south of Mulege and a house sale in the north area of Baja. The palapa for sale was on property owned by a known Mexican scam artist and
yet nomads who live right next door were waxing on about buying this lease property and how wonderful this fellow is to do deal with.
The other thread dealt with a large home on leased land that was for sale but needed the lease renewed for the standard 10 years less the day. This
owner could not get the lease extended himself but wanted any new owner to renew it. Flags should have been raised about what a terrible investment
having any home on leased land in Mexico is given the chance of no protection at all if you even manage to get your paperwork trail correct and deal
with a Notario.
We heard instead about how upfront and honest the vendor seemed to be..
Heres a news flash for Nomads. Any leased land in Baja has its history traced back to the days when there was no legal vehicle for owning land in
Mexico. With the fido system and title insurance available many years now, leasing is the best way to throw your money away as well as maybe losing
your investment.
This applies to any Eijdo land purchase which has not gone through all the proper steps. Any land transaction of eijdo land without it going full
circle to the federal government for sign off is not worth the paper any documents are written on..
The best example of this would be in Mulege.
Ask anyone who lives at the Orchard Park who used to lease their property while the owner started selling the lots . There are some people there
who have not had their leases renewed or been told they will have to purchase their homes again. Its also my understanding that the owner there has
also taken large deposits from many people and not started some of these home yet for over 2 years now. SCAM and yet we have nomads on this board
who live there that do not warn others about this.
Another fine example is down the river at the Oasis where friends of mine almost bought a home on leased property. They were told while in Jungle
Jims bar near the park that leasing was the only way to go and this park had a great track record. Nothing was said about the recent hurricane damage
and other problems. No sense bringing that up when a new rube might be brought in. The following Sept.. Huricane John wiped out most of these
homes.
Its the come on in, the waters fine attitude I am talking about here.
Musical chairs at best while the newbies are the ones left holding the bag.
The fishing stories and trip reports are not what I am talking about and we look forward to these reports..
Its about honesty so people can make informed choices while in Mexico. Oh and my friends who were looking at these properties. They bought titled
property with a fido in Loreto for less money..Loreto has its problems with the Loreto Bay project but there is info out on that development
that is warning people to not purchase there.
Lets call a spade a shovel because there are many others on this board that want this
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ELINVESTIG8R
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NO LIARS ALLOWED!
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lingililingili
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I would certainly hope that any person wanting to buy property in Mexico would investigate every angle of their purchase, every downfall and every
advantage to suit their personal needs. I also hope that their is not a soul out there that would buy property in Mexico or any other country based
on faceless opinion, afterall, most of us don't know each other.
•Life is just one damned thing after another
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BMG
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Registered: 6-10-2007
Location: La Paz / Bahia Asunci�n / Away from home
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
I guess most on this board missed the point on this thread. |
BS
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Paula
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Wise words, lingililingili!
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeans
But Ciriosly.....
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Excellent creative spelling
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rpleger
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Posts: 1087
Registered: 3-12-2005
Location: H. Mulegé, BCS
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Mood: Was good.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
I guess most on this board missed the point on this thread.
Here are two examples of what I was talking about. In the last 3 weeks there were a couple of threads about buying property in Mexico which involved a
palapa sale south of Mulege and a house sale in the north area of Baja. The palapa for sale was on property owned by a known Mexican scam artist and
yet nomads who live right next door were waxing on about buying this lease property and how wonderful this fellow is to do deal with.
The other thread dealt with a large home on leased land that was for sale but needed the lease renewed for the standard 10 years less the day. This
owner could not get the lease extended himself but wanted any new owner to renew it. Flags should have been raised about what a terrible investment
having any home on leased land in Mexico is given the chance of no protection at all if you even manage to get your paperwork trail correct and deal
with a Notario.
We heard instead about how upfront and honest the vendor seemed to be..
Heres a news flash for Nomads. Any leased land in Baja has its history traced back to the days when there was no legal vehicle for owning land in
Mexico. With the fido system and title insurance available many years now, leasing is the best way to throw your money away as well as maybe losing
your investment.
This applies to any Eijdo land purchase which has not gone through all the proper steps. Any land transaction of eijdo land without it going full
circle to the federal government for sign off is not worth the paper any documents are written on..
The best example of this would be in Mulege.
Ask anyone who lives at the Orchard Park who used to lease their property while the owner started selling the lots . There are some people there
who have not had their leases renewed or been told they will have to purchase their homes again. Its also my understanding that the owner there has
also taken large deposits from many people and not started some of these home yet for over 2 years now. SCAM and yet we have nomads on this board
who live there that do not warn others about this.
Another fine example is down the river at the Oasis where friends of mine almost bought a home on leased property. They were told while in Jungle
Jims bar near the park that leasing was the only way to go and this park had a great track record. Nothing was said about the recent hurricane damage
and other problems. No sense bringing that up when a new rube might be brought in. The following Sept.. Huricane John wiped out most of these
homes.
Its the come on in, the waters fine attitude I am talking about here.
Musical chairs at best while the newbies are the ones left holding the bag.
The fishing stories and trip reports are not what I am talking about and we look forward to these reports..
Its about honesty so people can make informed choices while in Mexico. Oh and my friends who were looking at these properties. They bought titled
property with a fido in Loreto for less money..Loreto has its problems with the Loreto Bay project but there is info out on that development
that is warning people to not purchase there.
Lets call a spade a shovel because there are many others on this board that want this |
I live in Mulegé, full time, and I have had people ask me about buying into the Orchard and other parks...only to have them buy anyway...I don't give
advice anymore...
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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