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Paula
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What would be your #1 positive change?
What would be your #1 positive change in Baja?
Shari has an interesting thread/poll about how Nomads feel about living in and visiting Baja, and whether we welcome change or prefer it to stay as it
is. So lets take it a little further by trying to define what "positive change" means to us. I hope we can focus on our ideas for the best possible
place that this peninsula can be.
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CortezBlue
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I would add Fee Simple real estate sales to gringos so the 99 year lease and Fidicomiso would not be required.
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palmeto99
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Its not a lease. Its ownership held in a bank trust...
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Al G
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Nothing should change in Baja that the normal Mexican process allows...period.
The one thing I would be happy to see happen, is cutting the head off the snake of police corruption. I will never leave Baja, (not many years anyway)
but I fear one day some stupid cop is going to push the issue too far and he will die. You know what will happen to me then.
The Mexican culture is proceeding at the speed/level as the US did in the 50's...it will happen and we as gringos will have little effect if any.
[Edited on 7-23-2008 by Al G]
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
I would add Fee Simple real estate sales to gringos so the 99 year lease and Fidicomiso would not be required. |
??? nothing is 99 year (except for the suckers that fell for it)
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Skeet/Loreto
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More Direct Help with the Children: Helping them get a good Mexican Education, going onto to their own Higher Education. Learning to to be proud of
their hertiage,
Being a Mexicano and being Proud of it!
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elizabeth
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Paula,
This is a very thought provoking subject.
I went back and forth between improved standard of living and political and judicial changes...but, ultimately went with improved standard of living.
I think it will take an improved standard of living for people to make the appropriate decisions about how they want their political and judicial
systems to work. And changes have to be made by Mexicans utilizing systems that work culturally. The problem most North Americans have (mostly
estadounidense) is that they believe that the US system is the best, and should be emulated by all. Both the political and judicial systems of Mexico
have been improved over the years...the Mexican criminal code has written into it many safeguards. It's the implemention that is the problem, and
that will only change when people have a better standard of living and more education.
The improvement of the standard of living needs to take into account that any investment and industry needs to be mostly Mexican owned or well
regulated, so that the majority of profits stay in the country to help improve infrastructure. It's not much help to the economy to have foreign
corporations build huge resorts that hire people at low wages, encourage emigration and slums, and send the money out of the country. Maquilas that
hire people at minimum wage, encourage them to emigrate to maquila zones, send the profits out of the country, and then close the maquilas to open
them in China are not a solution.
Just my initial thoughts on the subject...I look forward to other thoughts.
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gibson
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less 'crema' in the 'gwakamole'
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fishbuck
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More "Ladies Bars" with cheap beer!
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A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
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fulano
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Your list is incomplete. If you eliminated corruption so there was a level playing field, all the rest would take care of itself.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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My dream is to see a well trained, well paid police force who respond to crime quickly...a new judicial system with court trials and
and improved wages for all so people dont have to risk their lives to cross over the border for highes wages....and an end to the sexism in hiring
policy.
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Lee
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Change starts within
| Quote: | Originally posted by elizabeth
I went back and forth between improved standard of living and political and judicial changes...but, ultimately went with improved standard of living.
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Me too! And then I went with political/judicial changes. But your choice might be more right.
| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
Your list is incomplete. If you eliminated corruption so there was a level playing field, all the rest would take care of itself.
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Got that right. Still might not vote for that first, but certainly it should be on the list.
Salute!
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What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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bacquito
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I went with environmental- Mexico has many beautiful palces but many people think nothing of tossing plastic items, tires, cans and other items in
their countryside. Much of this trash does not break down.
Also, how about improving driving habits!!
bacquito
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thebajarunner
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This may be a new record
So far you only have two "STUPID RESPONSES"
Easy answer....
Improved level of life for everyone, especially the poor,
but perhaps the key to open that door is a reformed system of justice and government.
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
What would be your #1 positive change in Baja? |
Perhaps the elimination of the fideicomiso system, ie supporting the original intent of Article 27.
Honestly now, is selling off all the prime land to outsiders, of real long term benefit to the Mexican population? 
--Larry |
It is a shame to see eijdos liquidate prime land for a relative pittance. Leases would have been better, imo, especially if the limit could be raised
to 20 years; ample time for most retired-in-Baja spans, after which the leased land could revert back to the ejidos. In the short term, there would be
less foreign investment dollars, but in the long run, as the perceived value of the land increases, the revenues for the ejidos would continually
increase.
As for non-ejido land, prime waterfront land will be bought up, if not by foreigners then by wealthy Mexicans and Mexican corporations for development
and/or leases. And the very wealthy, regardless of nationality, are all foreign to most of the regular folks.
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
So far you only have two "STUPID RESPONSES"
Easy answer....
Improved level of life for everyone, especially the poor,
but perhaps the key to open that door is a reformed system of justice and government. |
obviously in need of baja time!!
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Paula
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It seems we have a thoughtful conversation going here!
Elizabeth and Bajarunner, you express the two sides of the coin. I haven't voted yet myself, but one of these would be my top choice, and I think
that I'm leaning toward the the increased standard of living side first.
Lencho and Don and Elizabeth make good points about keeping the resources Baja has under localownership and control.
Fulano, corruption does need to be addressed, and I thought it might be implied under judicial and political improvements, but maybe it is an issue
unto itself.
It is encouraging to me to see that many of us agree that the well-being of the local population is foremost, and that environmental quality is also
high on the list.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Its not a lease. Its ownership held in a bank trust...
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Read it again, that is why I state lease and Fidi.
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palmeto99
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Its not a lease. Its ownership held in a bank trust...
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Read it again, that is why I state lease and Fidi. |
I did read it. There is no 99 year lease in Mexico.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Its not a lease. Its ownership held in a bank trust...
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Read it again, that is why I state lease and Fidi. |
You may think a Fidi is ownership .... BUT .... you will NEVER hold title in you hand ..... a Fdi is NOT ownership if you never receive title
..... you just THINK you are in control of what is supposidly your land .....
CaboRon
[Edited on 7-23-2008 by CaboRon]
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