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Poll: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BAJA?
DONT WANT BAJA TO CHANGE --- 20 (22.73%)
WELCOME POSITIVE CHANGES --- 62 (70.45%)
WANT IT TO BE MORE AMERICANIZED --- 1 (1.14%)
FED UP AND WON'T GO BACK --- 3 (3.41%)
AFRAID TO VISIT --- 2 (2.27%)

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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 04:23 PM


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Originally posted by shari
What makes you think I'm a yankee hater?


please refrain from the Y word. Most derogatory for some of us!
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 04:37 PM


Shari,

WE know why you're here and what you're about.
You're generosity in sharing your world and helping some of us find a place there is worth more than words.
The fact that you are trying to make a living does not make you anything but human.

No need to reply to the likes of Memo and Palm99;
if you told them you wear white socks they would attack you for that;
if you told them you wore no socks ......

They're just in it for the controvery.
I vote that we quit responding to them at all.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 05:21 PM


I think that a lot has to do with the changes that modernity brings about. In the USA if we want to get away from it all we would go out to "the country" where life is simpler slower etc. Modern times has greatly impringed on this outlet. Yosemite while still very attactive has reservations that need to be made to camp. The same for most beach area campgrounds during the summer.
I think that Baja has long had the same appeal coupled with
its vast richness in its less spoiled natural resources. You can camp on the beach, or in the mountains with or with out the crowds. The people are nice and in the smaller towns the pace is much slower. For the most part no reservations needed. But as fences go up and developement occurs this
type of baja freedom will eventually be gone. I guess we have to enjoy what we have while we still have it.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 05:33 PM
Yes, especially derogatory


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Quote:
Originally posted by shari
What makes you think I'm a yankee hater?


please refrain from the Y word. Most derogatory for some of us!
for us Confederate folks.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 05:37 PM
Viva Mexico! Viva La Gente!


I voted for positive change though I accept negativeness will be around. I sail through Baja within a white bubble, protected from all harm, seeking justice while striking fear in the heart of bandidos. I am ZorroLee

I will now, and after I receive my Mexican citizenship in 4 years, march in the Pack of Positive Change, assisting where I can, lending a hand when asked, and always expressing gratitude for the Mexican gente.

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Memo: I truly do not understand why you would call my poll phoney...It's my poll and I am truly interested in what Nomads actually think...not what you SAY they think.


shari -- this NUT is trying to sabotage this thread -- maybe didn't get Doug's message before the thread was closed down.

People here who know you or of you know you are squared away, don't HATE gringoes, love Juan, are Mexicana through-and-through, y habla por la corazon.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 05:57 PM


I'll admit it. I'm one of those who purchased an oceanfront condo in North Rosarito Beach for us, not for speculation. We have visited Baja for years, but at this time in our lives, we welcome the "creature comforts" and "security" that we thought high-rise living in Baja would provide. And to be able to do all that AND enjoy Baja is our dream. I know that's not "rustic" enough for many of you, but we really hope(d) to spend many of our golden years drinking margaritas on that balcony overlooking the Coronado Islands, and sharing that with our family and friends, with the comfort that we could get "home" if need be. Now many of those family and friends are fearful to visit us there. Yes, bad things happen in the U.S. Yes, some of the news reports are probably sensationalized. And, frankly, yes, we are now questioning our choice. So, I for one, welcome any positive change.....security, water, safety.............
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 06:10 PM


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I'll admit it. I'm one of those who purchased an oceanfront condo in North Rosarito Beach for us, not for speculation. We have visited Baja for years, but at this time in our lives, we welcome the "creature comforts" and "security" that we thought high-rise living in Baja would provide. And to be able to do all that AND enjoy Baja is our dream. I know that's not "rustic" enough for many of you, but we really hope(d) to spend many of our golden years drinking margaritas on that balcony overlooking the Coronado Islands, and sharing that with our family and friends, with the comfort that we could get "home" if need be. Now many of those family and friends are fearful to visit us there. Yes, bad things happen in the U.S. Yes, some of the news reports are probably sensationalized. And, frankly, yes, we are now questioning our choice. So, I for one, welcome any positive change.....security, water, safety.............



I think that you just spoke for alot of folks on this board who have invested considerable funds in housing only to see the Mexican authorities drop the ball on these important issues.
I must warn you my friend, there many on this board that live on the beach in palapas or cinderblock shacks and do not care about those who have invested more than just time in Mexico. ....:cool:
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 06:55 PM


ooops sorry gibson...I truly had no idea that Yankee was considered derogatory either...not being american...(I didn't use that word as it may be used for all of us on this continent) I shall refrain from using the Y word again as I would not want to insult anyone here....it's just that united states citizens is such a long phrase to use.
I have a little anecdote for you all...once a good amiga from New Orleans came to visit me in GN with her black, united states citizen boyfriend. At our favorite taco stand, the taco cook greeted him with a big warm smile and said....Que onda guero! He asked what it meant and we told him it was an affectionate term for white guy...well, he got steamed over that and insulted....so I told the cook he didn't like it so he said...Okay...que onda negro...well this didn't go over very well either and he ranted and raved about how ignorant the mexicans were and stomped off. We all just looked at each other and burst out laughing because all of us knew that it was said in jest...and had absoutely NO malice or insult intended...it was humor...mexican style.
Hey, I try not to get my thong in a knot when many folks here bash canadians....so chill amigos...I love you all who are honorable, tolerant, polite, understanding, honest, nice human beings wherever you were born.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 07:05 PM


Shari, I like your frank and straightforward answer. I was somewhat surprised you lifted a finger to explain your take. I doubt seriously that it mattered to the intended audience however, but good on you anyhoo!

I would rather see Mexicans develop more but disposable income in North America and elsewhere has been the dominate force building in the smaller towns and suburbs. Hell, they(Mexicans) sold the gosh darnn property when the gov't gave them permission, place the blame on them.

Does not all this investment personal & commercial add to the gross value of Baja, and Mexico as a whole?

One more thing. Palmnut, WTF do you know about anyones investment in time and money in Baja.
Let's face it, you go after anyone that seems to have it better than you. And that ain't sayin' much!!:lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 07:12 PM


Baja needs more Ladies Bars, more fish and more beer! And more fish! And more me!;D



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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 05:40 AM
Memo and Palmetto


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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 06:04 AM


Shari,

I am not offended by the term "Yank"

It is a term first used in revolutionary times in the protest song "Yanky Doodle"


And in a Grand Version inspired by a British Army surgeon,
George M. Cohen wrote,

"I'm a Yanky Doodle Dandy, born on the Fourth of July"


It was a most afficinate term used by our dear allies the "Brits" .....

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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 06:13 AM


Being born and raised in Mississippi, I'd rather not be referred to as a "Yankee". :D Baja reminds me of parts of the south not too many years ago.:D Enjoy it while it lasts.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 06:22 AM


i didn't discover the baja.....sorry again Jaime....
until 1980 when i flew south to then unspoiled Cabo the 1st time stopping along the way to marvel at all the adventure i could create thanks to the utility of private aircraft. i was severely smitten and made all things baja my new hobby. books, maps, posters, guides, trinkets, memorabilia - it was endless.

that was a long time a go.
seen a lot of changes and talked to numerous friends who have much more time south than i.
from what i have gathered from them i really missed out on the 70s and baja then.

you can't go home again.

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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 06:53 AM


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What makes you think I'm a yankee hater?


please refrain from the Y word. Most derogatory for some of us!


Go Yankees, only 3.5 games out of first place.

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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 07:16 AM


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Go Yankees, only 3.5 games out of first place.


Allright! Now we got some good stuff on this board! I've been a faithful fan of the Bronx Bombers since I was six. I get such a kick out of seeing a young boy in Mexico with a Yankee cap!




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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 08:07 AM


Well just spent the last 2 days on a beautiful Baja beach fishing and diving just starting all over again discovering our love of the Baja.:bounce::bounce:



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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 08:48 AM


More fishbuck comments!! but...(there's always a but) you forgot tequila!
I really enjoyed fly fishin' pams comments. Riding in the back of pickups... it's my birthday and I'm in dreamland.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 08:51 AM


I don't want Baja to change, but some positive change is also good, but then again who needs another California?:no:
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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 02:42 PM


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Originally posted by Taco de Baja
Don't want it to change.
Selfish reasons, I liked it better when it was "undiscovered" and there were less people.


Ditto.

A crowded, 'improved' baja just isn't baja any more. When baja becomes like the states there won't be any reason to go there any more.

After a lot of soul searching I've decided I want it with all of it's 'deficiencies'.
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