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[*] posted on 7-28-2008 at 03:16 PM


yep, i would check the fuel filters first but i had intermitant stalling and after i let the truck rest and then switch the key 3 or 4 times it would start and run again for a while. If it is a newer F series it may not be the cps
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[*] posted on 7-28-2008 at 06:06 PM


Roasty,
If you're still in town, we feel for you. The dumbo mechanics that we are, sounds like a fuel problem / turbo problem. We have spare parts, ie CPS, fuel filters, but probably won't work for you, the wrong year (we have a 2000).
We're in G.N. now, but will be back in Bahia manana (Tues.). If you need someone to help ease your diesel woes, we're there for you!
Red Ford diesel, call us on 68. Dern y Paulina

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[*] posted on 7-30-2008 at 12:46 PM


Did anyone mention the Diesel fuel requirements for 2007 plus rigs? They require ultra low sulphur fuel and I remember reading before I left on my trip in April that there is not alot of that in Mexico past the border areas. If you use regular diesel it melts the converter. Just a thought.
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[*] posted on 7-30-2008 at 03:41 PM


no it doesn't...

i have a low sulfur diesel and it actually runs better on pemex diesel




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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 09:58 AM
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Well it turned into a bit of an adventure getting the truck back to San Diego. We had some friends bring a 20' trailer down, but the timbers started to split when I drove onto it.
Realising that I would have to go to plan B, we had the local police call the wrecking yard at the BOLA turn-off and they agreed to tow it to TJ for $1,000. I met them at 11:30 Monday night at Costco TJ and after they had re-connected the drive shaft I paid the fee. Limped over the border at midnight, and took it to the Ford dealer next day. Fords diagnosis was a fuel sensor malfunction. I told them that I had emailed them a week prior with zero response and the service manager suggested I send the towing invoice to Ford.
Thanks for all the suggestions/ideas.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 10:17 AM


Glad to see you made it home .

CaboRon

Now, buy yourself an old junker (that can be repaired by any Mexican mechanic, they are quite clever) for your trips to Baja and leave the expensive vehicles in the States.




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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 10:29 AM


Cabo Ron, I am almost a believer.............
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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 11:09 AM


It's for sale, you can pick it up in Todos Santos :lol: Cheap or will trade for somehting much, much smaller.





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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 05:25 PM


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Did anyone mention the Diesel fuel requirements for 2007 plus rigs? They require ultra low sulphur fuel and I remember reading before I left on my trip in April that there is not alot of that in Mexico past the border areas. If you use regular diesel it melts the converter. Just a thought.


As stated here many times in the past... the ultra low sulfur diesel IS indeed DISTRIBUTED from the 'border area' (including the El Sauzal/ Ensenada plant)... and is trucked to ALL Baja Norte stations south of there, from there. (El Rosario and L.A. Bay included).




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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 05:31 PM


["the service manager suggested I send the towing invoice to Ford."]

I'd bet they'll pay it or a portion of it. They need all the customers thay can get/keep as all the big truck makers do at this time.

[Edited on 8-5-2008 by TW]
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[*] posted on 8-4-2008 at 05:48 PM


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Did anyone mention the Diesel fuel requirements for 2007 plus rigs? They require ultra low sulphur fuel and I remember reading before I left on my trip in April that there is not alot of that in Mexico past the border areas. If you use regular diesel it melts the converter. Just a thought.


As stated here many times in the past... the ultra low sulfur diesel IS indeed DISTRIBUTED from the 'border area' (including the El Sauzal/ Ensenada plant)... and is trucked to ALL Baja Norte stations south of there, from there. (El Rosario and L.A. Bay included).
Chill out, this guy just got here.

Try this ROAMIN
http://www.bajaquest.com/fuel/
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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 05:55 AM


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Did anyone mention the Diesel fuel requirements for 2007 plus rigs? They require ultra low sulphur fuel and I remember reading before I left on my trip in April that there is not alot of that in Mexico past the border areas. If you use regular diesel it melts the converter. Just a thought.


As stated here many times in the past... the ultra low sulfur diesel IS indeed DISTRIBUTED from the 'border area' (including the El Sauzal/ Ensenada plant)... and is trucked to ALL Baja Norte stations south of there, from there. (El Rosario and L.A. Bay included).


David,

You left out the other state, BCS ...

Do you have any information on ultra low sulfur diesel distributed out of La Paz to the stations down here ??

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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 06:14 AM


ultra low sulfur diesel is ONLY "all about the smog"

it burns fine

it dealers told you it would work
they would lose their "average corp mileage rating"
and have to pay BIG fines to the EPA




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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 07:59 PM


Hmmmm...............a fuel sensor malfunction, huh?

It will be interesting to see whether the dealer attributes this to a simple sensor malfunction or whether the sensor is supposed to affect operation if it detects higher concentrations of sulphur.

Please keep us posted as to whether the dealer made ANY mention of possibly burning higher sulphur diesel than ULSD.

Unlike David K, my memory of the discussion involving the distribution of ULSD in Baja was ANYTHING but definitive. Antonio initially thought it was being distributed everywhere in BCN but then produced a memo from PEmex that it wasnt as widespread as he thought. At least that was what I recall.




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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 08:08 PM


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At least that was what I recall.


Hook: We'll forgive a faulty memory, but dude, I don't know what to say about your continued support of the Padres. sheesh man, have you no pride??
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[*] posted on 8-5-2008 at 08:17 PM


Waddaya mean? I went to ONE game with a few nomads. It was the second game of the season. I think it was the LAST time Hoffman pitched decently..........LOL! And they won to put them at .500, which may also be the last time that happened this year.

Padre management is terrible. I feel for Bud Black. Many SD fans are unhappy with him. If he gets fired, I hope the Angels rehire him as a pitching coach.

I am still an Angel fan.............even though I am ex-SoCal. Went to see a Colorado Rockies game before the break..............and they won, too. But they are bad, bad, bad as is most of the NL West.




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[*] posted on 8-6-2008 at 09:33 AM


The service guy indicated that the sensor had "gone bad", and looking at the service notes it appears that it was not operating at the correct voltage ?? I mentioned the low sulfur issue to him and the fact that BCN indeed had low sulfur diesel fuel(fingers crossed at that point of the discussion), he indicated that many other "new" ford diesel owners from San Diego that he serviced travelled in Mexico and he had not heard of any fuel related issues.
Sad thing about the whole deal is a $15 part can bring a $50K truck to its knees, and without a $150k diagnostic computer you would not know where exactly the problem was.
Again, The confused look on Sammy Diaz's face ( an undoubted master mechanic) when I lifted the hood to show him the motor was priceless.
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[*] posted on 8-6-2008 at 10:18 AM


Roasty,

Someone had mentioned an inexpensive reader that might have been able to diagnose the problem. Can you confirm this? I also have a ford diesel, by the way.

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[*] posted on 8-6-2008 at 10:32 AM


i blew a sensor on another truck and my oil guy checked it...

he could only tell me it was some smog sensor but i would need to go to the dealer for correction...

the dealer replaced the entire wire harness for the sensor

it was voltage related too...dodge




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[*] posted on 8-6-2008 at 12:27 PM


Anyone would be wise to drive a vehicle that can be repaired by the mechanics in the area you will be in.

Mexican mechanics do a good job on older model vehicles.

Few of them can afford the very expensive testing equipment we have come to expect at a garage.

They are just too complicated these days to analize ....

The days of working on your own vehicle are pretty much over .....

Buy old and restore, you will be happier in the long run.

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