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rocklobster
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Now hear this all of you liquored up Gringos!!!
My summary of what I learned as a member/newbe of Baja N.
First of all for everybody to better understand.
I live here permanently in Baja.
My wife is Mexican and my inlaws are both Lawyers. He is Real Estate. Not Contracts but practicing in R.E. law in Court.
She is Criminal Defense.
I was reading BN for some time before placing this ad. My inlaws also suggested o place REAL FACTS about Real Estate in Mexico. Upfront: That will not
happen after all the Bullchit responses to my ad. Here's why:
i.e. rpleger! He lives in Mulege and knows that the Oasis Park is completely restored and no signs of a flood are visible today. And that's what I
said "No signs of a flood in my house" Congrats you are BULLSH-TER #1
i.e. Diver! He knows nothing about Mexican Real Estate law but stated quote "take that little piece of paper and wait until the owner decides to
bulldoze it away(the property)"
More Bullchit.
I know what happened on the East Cape three years ago w/ that RV Park. That happened because none of the "elite" gringos were smart enough to hire an
expert mexican real estate lawyer.
I know what happened with Santispac. But that is not comparable to the Oasis Park in Mulege. That is a totally different ballgame.
Then he posted U2Us in the forum stating as an excuse that he did not enclose the identity of the sender.
Hey Diver! Not all others in here are ******************* 
i.e. jonesinbaja(oh boy do we have a smartone here)
A "newbie"??? I don't think so. You are probably another old fart with a new nick. Well he pounded me with "selling a rippoff to unsuspected public".
Only to admit a second later that he sold his rippoff a year earlier.
Good one
And he had 9ft of mud and dead animals in his house.
There was no house all over Mulege with nine feet of mud in it. I guess your vision was double by the amount of Brandy still left in your drunk
ass.
The only reported dead animal was a horse. Maybe it was trapped in his house???
Maybe he wanted to open a business scam by running a Polish Sausage co. in Mulege. That's why he tied his dogs to the stove before leaving for the
U.S. so when he came back there was a for sure supply of meat for his Wieners.
I agree , Mulege people are wonderful. But there are mostly Mexicans. Unfortunately there are Scumbags there too. But they are not Mexicans.
If the insurance co. denied to pay 100% of his claim then they certainly had a good reason. Maybe he sold his ripoff to a stupid Gringo that fell of
the bus. Made more profit then the coverage was and now is complaining that the insurance co. is bankrupt
To vivaloha: I can not take advice from these "veterans" because I know that a lot of them start getting sh-tfaced in the morning. Just go to Mulege
anyday, you'll find some specimens at the bars.
And not all of them live here year round.
To martyman: you got the point. Lots of Bullchit and their producers on here.
To the host of BajaNomad:
Your board is certainly filled up with some "veterans".
With the exception of Bruce Leech and Lancho. They seem to have standards and are worthy of a good conversation.
Sorry if I forgot someone but I don't read everything anymore.
Suggestion: Delete the entire thread and delete me as a member. This is below my standards.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
I learned something in this thread. Yes, this is the proper place to post ideas about the original post.
Oh yeah...and how about the part where "the insurance company ran out of money". That is the best joke of the day
Insurance companies are bankrupting the US (just like oil companies) that see the end of private healthcare and are getting the most profit before
that part of their scam runs out. |
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by BajaNomad]
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Cypress
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rocklobster, The key phrase,"If you're not ready to walk(swim, run?) away from
it", applies. Heck! You might not even own the property to begin with.
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The Sculpin
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I dunno - seems like someone is a little sensitive, and a teetoteler! I agree he should have been more forthcoming with the facts. If he was lurking
prior to posting, he didn't learn much from it. This bunch of bananas is more than most can handle!! Anyway, I have had alot of experience with real
estate in Mexico (and other places in the world) - from the $10,000 lot to the $250,000,000+ hotels, and the thing they all have in common is this:
first - is the person you're dealing with have the authority to actually sell? second - what is it exactly they are selling? third - is what they are
selling insurable? and fourth -are you able to do what you plan on doing? To do that, you need on your side someone local you can trust to the grave,
who is well connected and is able to extract consequences should thing go sour. You will have to pay for this service - it's not cheap. With all due
respect, having the ability to walk away from your investment should not be the limiting factor to foregn investment.
Whoa there, Cowboy - pull back on those reins!
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Natalie Ann
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rocklobster
.... And he had 9ft of mud and dead animals in his house.
There was no house all over Mulege with nine feet of mud in it. I guess your vision was double by the amount of Brandy still left in your drunk
burro.
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And you, sir, must use a ruler as a yardstick. I was in Mulege in October 2006, visited some of the places along the Rio. The following pictures
were a common site - and I do believe the ceiling here is 9 feet tall. Mud all over that baby.
another:
Nena
[Edited on 8-8-2008 by Natalie Ann]
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by BajaNomad]
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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comitan
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Picture worth a thousand words.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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rocklobster
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You were in Mulege in '06 and looked at some of the houses..bla bla bla. Guess what Miss Super smart elite nomad. Water is not the same as mud. It may
contain dirt, but ones the water subsides it leaves mud. THIS INFORMATION IS REVEALED IN BOOKS. So the outcome was that there were maybe a couple of
feet of "mud" left. And anybody that has/had a house here can confirm that. Again, vision maybe doubled.
Anyways, I am sure that your IQ, ************************************************, will not agree with that.
You are just another gringo trying to make yourself feel important because you "vacation" in Baja.
Were you down here busting your as.s like most people to clean up their houses? No, otherwise you would have already said so.
**************.
Your pictures show how high the water was but with the smallest pressurewasher it can be cleaned.
You know what....I am done now. This one goes out to all the lowbrainers, drunks, and dreamers who make themselves feel important KNOWING deep down
that your live is just another bottle of booze and the importance of you being alive has been literally ********** away. YOU ALL SUCK.
For the ones that have a brain and are on here...I hope I never offended you.
Peace Love and adios
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by BajaNomad]
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Diver
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Now that the monster has been exposed .....
Notice that Rocky-the-Lobster never answered a single question.
But he/she is really good at throwing fits and insults.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rocklobster
For the ones that have a brain and are on here...I hope I never offended you.
Peace Love and fish tacos.
OK bro....Your efforts are appreciated. |
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Pescador
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the really sad part that Rocklobster missed was that the lease for the property was never registered with the Notario, by his own admission, which
basically makes the lease on the property non-enforceable. Let's say that someone comes in with a big hotel idea on the Oasis property and the owner
decides to sell. Because the lease was not registered with a Notario, it is only as good as the intentions of the owner. So yes you own the
improvements and building, but I daresay it might prove to be a real problem to move it when you get a 30 day notice.
My parents and several of their friends had the same situation at the Shangri-La Trailer park at San Carlos, Sonora, and when they sold the property
to a developer, they had 60 days to remove all that they wanted to take, everything else got bulldozed.
At least with a registered lease you have some rights.
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Sharksbaja
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WTF
Ok let me get this straight. You people who dislike MULEGE because it had a flood...get a life. Do you dis everyone who had a disaster or flood. WTF??
It's that type of attitude that makes our country disliked. Some of you think that only fools live in flood-prone places.
Ok, that's your opinion. You might be safe out away from rivers and the ocean, but you might not.
How many people live in areas of risk?
It's something like 9 out of 10 globally.
Ok, I will cease talking about or posting about Mulege if you insist on referencing it. I'll just hang tight till a freaking earthquake takes out
your place then I'll exclaim "why would you people live on an active or ancient fault"
Don't worry, I' m just about done.
As far as the lease goes, why should you give a ratsass? You certainly will be better off just ignoring the place, the WHOLE place. The town is
better off w/o you people cutting down the town every chance you get. It's more to you than a lease/purchase
Problem is some of you won't let that happen. You would prefer to see it as nena does. Of course some folks will always turn tail and run from
disaster. It's these type of events that expose and reveal mans' (and womens') true inner makeup.
While some would seek to help others in need some would steal your stuff and run away. You just never know really how that person will react to
something devastating.
Those of you who sit high on your mighty horse may find themselves among others of the same notions. That would be poetic justice imo. These people
could care less about your problems. You can bet on that!!
Thank you Bruce for being honest and fair to the new guy
and helping folks when in need.
Quite frankly the ugliest people in Mexico I have come to communicate with and listen to the last couple of years are some Americans who post here.
I would not go out in a boat with them.
btw, nobody had mud 8' high. Water with mud yes
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by Sharksbaja]
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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roundtuit
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Well said Sharks. This should shut up afew who only visit for a few weeks every other year. An become experts
Never learned from a book-Only from mistakes, mine and yours
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Diver
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Relax and take a pill, Sharks.
The only intended bashing was the guy who wouldn't give any real answers.
Mulege is great but shady land sales are not; wherever they may occur.
Do YOU want to buy a place without a title or lease ?
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Natalie Ann
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Sharksbaja - I believe you misunderstood me.
IMHO Mulege is a lovely town which I enjoy visiting and have thought about for the retirement years.
The point of my photos was to show that water and mud was that high, whether most of the mud washed out or eventually settled to a level
which could be moved out. Certainly it was not meant as a statement against Mulege.
I don't see a problem with acknowledging that if you live along the Rio's edge, you may have some loss and a big clean-up every decade or so. I
currently enjoy living in the beauty of the San Francisco Bay Area with clear knowledge that my home is between two major earthquake faults. But if
I wanta sell my house, ethics (and in California, the law) demand I disclose that information to prospective buyers.
Nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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Cypress
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Most of these homes are camps. The majority of the people that own them, or think they own them, don't live in 'em full time, just visit now and then.
There's a small group of year 'round residents, hardy souls, that manage very well come hell or high water. You can bet they have all their leases,
titles, etc. in order.
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loki
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Ok let me get this straight. You people who dislike MULEGE because it had a flood...get a life. Do you dis everyone who had a disaster or flood. WTF??
It's that type of attitude that makes our country disliked. Some of you think that only fools live in flood-prone places.
Ok, that's your opinion. You might be safe out away from rivers and the ocean, but you might not.
How many people live in areas of risk?
It's something like 9 out of 10 globally.
Ok, I will cease talking about or posting about Mulege if you insist on referencing it. I'll just hang tight till a freaking earthquake takes out
your place then I'll exclaim "why would you people live on an active or ancient fault"
Don't worry, I' m just about done.
As far as the lease goes, why should you give a ratsass? You certainly will be better off just ignoring the place, the WHOLE place. The town is
better off w/o you people cutting down the town every chance you get. It's more to you than a lease/purchase
Problem is some of you won't let that happen. You would prefer to see it as nena does. Of course some folks will always turn tail and run from
disaster. It's these type of events that expose and reveal mans' (and womens') true inner makeup.
While some would seek to help others in need some would steal your stuff and run away. You just never know really how that person will react to
something devastating.
Those of you who sit high on your mighty horse may find themselves among others of the same notions. That would be poetic justice imo. These people
could care less about your problems. You can bet on that!!
Thank you Bruce for being honest and fair to the new guy
and helping folks when in need.
Quite frankly the ugliest people in Mexico I have come to communicate with and listen to the last couple of years are some Americans who post here.
I would not go out in a boat with them.
btw, nobody had mud 8' high. Water with mud yes
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by Sharksbaja] |
It seems to me that most of the people who responded were just trying to get more info and were not mocking Mulege. It is a beautiful little hamlet
and to go after reasonable responses seems a bit uptight . I think you owe some of these people an apology and perhaps you can refrain from using such
strong language next time.
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Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Most of these homes are camps. The majority of the people that own them, or think they own them, don't live in 'em full time, just visit now and then.
There's a small group of year 'round residents, hardy souls, that manage very well come hell or high water. You can bet they have all their leases,
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| Quote: | | I am sure that the owners of the hotel in Mulege that got taken over by armed locals a few years ago also had their paperwork in order. But it took
the owners several years of legal work on the mainland to get their property back, plus an armed military escort to evict the local squatters.
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Udo
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loki
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Farbauti
loki, you big trickster, you! Why do you make me come looking for you? Time to come home now, you know Laufey will be worried.
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Huh????
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Cypress
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Udo, What hotel was that? And who're you quoting?
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loki
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He is talking about the Serinidad and its owner,Don Johnson who had it taken over by the local eijdo who claimed the land in spite of the fact Don had
bought the land from the Mexican government. It took years and lots of money to make it right and the eijdo still claim the hotel and all the land on
the south side of the river including the Oasis trailer Park in question here.
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Cypress
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loki, Thanks for the reply.
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