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[*] posted on 7-25-2004 at 04:31 PM
The plan of course


is to include a desalinater, solar and wind power, 1500 homes and a luxury hotel and marina. All inclusive resort.
Requeson and La Perla are the two best beaches on Bahia Concepcion for various reasons.
This is a real shame. And talk about the dominoe effect, the people in those new homes aren't going to just sit home.
I give it 20 years here before it looks just like so.cal..
And I was off by 4 years in the development of the hills east of Rosarito.
Come on you guys, plant some bamboo!:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-25-2004 at 06:33 PM
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you make sense.

JR - buy something, .......or can you?

pendejo?.......really.

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thumbup.gif posted on 7-25-2004 at 06:47 PM
nuttun any of us can do, progress happens


the fun part of this is you gettin so up tight about it , JR! come on buddy, get over it!

Get with tim40 and others, buy yourselves a development free zona/compound.....:lol::biggrin:

see what it costs to play in the big leagues amigo.

Munoz has a tough road to hoe fer sure.

its his kind of guts that made America great! Mexicans have every right to do it too. they practice free enterprize. What's wrong with that?? If it's not your cup o joe, go some place new/different. Why whine about it??

Say, a blockbuster might be good for me, i like movies....but there already is a rental place in mulege...so the market has decided. freedom....what a concept.





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[*] posted on 7-25-2004 at 06:55 PM
The Bamboo Park


I have already been through this before. I think it was titled "stopping development" or something like that.
I already did. And I planted bamboo there. And it's going to give the locals pretty good, environmentally friendly, PERMANENT employment.
I have plans for these bamboo parks in 3 or 4 more areas that I have already started the motions of acquiring the land and planting and educating the locals on bamboo.
If any of you are interested in participating in this project, it includes some pretty reasonable properties in some fantastic areas.
It gives the locals something to do besides build more condos or what have you, it beautifies and helps clean the air, and it provides inexpensive building materials which are very hard to come by.
Sorry on the remark Mike, but I just do not understand your point of view on this. For someone who has seen many of the remote regions and has a trailer in tranquil old Mulege, it seems as if you would have more of an appreciation for preserving unique environments.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2004 at 08:45 PM
hey, no problem here man


i can get jiggy wit dat.

What you're doing is a good thing, hope it works. Yeah, i love my little park. if it changes - that will be a long time off at best. Market forces will not pave mulege for eons, if ever.

My 1st trip to Cabo in 1981, flew myself there, landed 5 miles out of town at the old Hotel Cabo San Lucas. What a place then, not a paved road in town, marina not built yet like it is now. Back in '86 - wow what changes! Still liked it though. Back in 1992 - place is ruined!!! so what - i don't go there anymore!!
Plenty of places left, and if some go to a higher land value - well it's a right, that's all.

Let me know when/where your piece of paradise is. maybe i'll buy in - can we have an airstrip?? promise......no jets!!:tumble::biggrin::wow::cool:




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[*] posted on 7-25-2004 at 08:48 PM
J R Baja has a point


Why can't they build across the highway or off the beaches. From low tide to the high tide markers belong to the people of Mexico. When they put in a hotel, they block off the beaches so no one else can enjoy them. As for desalination of water, sewage treatment, and electricity generation, we have been promised this before and it never happens. I guess no one can stop progress---if you can call this progress. Also, as we all know, money talks in Baja. With money you can do whatever you want. Just pay off the right people. I guess its not just Nopolo that the developers want to screw up. Oh well, enjoy it while you can folks. We will Californicate Baja before the smoke clears.



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[*] posted on 7-26-2004 at 06:37 AM
that Munoz website has been around for


quite a while - i doubt their development will move forward fast. it's a long way to get your boat out the mouth of the bay to fish. basers will go through a lot of gas and time. not like at Escondido.

he's had some bad publicity too. wonder how much pre sale he has to do to get his investors to pony up on infrastructure??!!:lol:




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[*] posted on 7-26-2004 at 07:48 AM


It's Mexico; it is their country; they can and should do what they please. We are only guests here, gotta keep that in mind.
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[*] posted on 7-26-2004 at 08:29 AM
Yep, I keep it in mind all right.


We "guests" are the ones they are building all this crap for !
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[*] posted on 7-26-2004 at 11:49 AM


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The worse part of any development for me is the blockage of access to the beach.



It is illegal to restrict beach access. It pays to know and demand your rights.




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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 10:05 AM
Although it is illegal


been to the east cape or los cabos lately ?
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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 10:32 AM
Munoz comments on transportation


"...with the transportation revolution coming in the next ten years, even that distance will disappear; in 5 years, you will take your own Vertical landing Moller Sky Car and drive flying to or from San Diego California U.S.A. in a couple of hours, park your craft in your own house's garage..."
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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 11:16 AM
Daughter Judy and


his boy Elroy:lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 04:45 PM


JZ--yah, but can you pack all that beer and ice into one of those Sky Cars, plus your camping equipment:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 07:40 PM


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been to the east cape or los cabos lately ?


Nope, not my cup of tea but tell me how beach access would be restricted if one "pressed" the issue. Do developments put up fences from the edge of the federal zone to past the low tide mark?




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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 07:56 PM


I am guessing public access is not welcomed to non guests. If the hotel has all the property between the beach and the road, and the only way to the beach is through the hotel, this would be a problem. Unless Mexican law requires an easement or corridor for public access to the beach, it may be less than easy for non-guests.



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[*] posted on 7-27-2004 at 08:27 PM
Can you say


"Getting your ass kicked for "trespassing" ?"
One of the things I love about Mexico is you can do that if you are in the right, but, limiting access to the beaches for those that can't afford it certainly is wrong.
The hotels are one issue but from what I have seen, the gringo, canadian, european mansions are the main problema.
Those that actually know Baja realize there is a very limited amount of beach access in many of the prime areas. Key word, "prime areas".
These are the areas that people with too much money want to live. And, being from wherever they are from, they don't want the intrusion of the locals.
Because in their caviar eatin, cigar smokin minds, they are much smarter, cleaner, better than those heathens that grew up there dealing with a natural, healthy life.
So, up go the fences and access to the beaches as they are now florescently lit driveways .
Sure, you can still get to them. By boat, or a mile or two walk along the beach. But as far as access to the beach, righteeyoh.
My faith is in Mother Nature. If she doesn't like what's going on, she will do something about it.
This is just a little finger of land that has
fought off many foreign intrusions.
I guess we shall see about this one!!
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