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[*] posted on 7-29-2008 at 04:43 PM


yes the rattler aversion therapy is a good idea.....but i had a lab that hated em and skunks....would not leave skunks alone....wanted to send him to the betty ford center for skunk addiction.....anyway, i digress....first aid for rattler bite is wound treatment (soap, water, antiinfamatory and antibiotic) if theyre vaccinated, more aggressive if theyre not.....most mexican vets can deal with snake bites, but get them on antibiotics for sure....the problem is the tissue necrosis.....again, if youre cabo, see my partner and he talks tome daily about cases until i get there....
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[*] posted on 7-29-2008 at 04:47 PM


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yes the rattler aversion therapy is a good idea.....but i had a lab that hated em and skunks....would not leave skunks alone....wanted to send him to the betty ford center for skunk addiction.....anyway, i digress....first aid for rattler bite is wound treatment (soap, water, antiinfamatory and antibiotic) if theyre vaccinated, more aggressive if theyre not.....most mexican vets can deal with snake bites, but get them on antibiotics for sure....the problem is the tissue necrosis.....again, if youre cabo, see my partner and he talks tome daily about cases until i get there....


OK, our dogs had the adversion training---worked better for one than the other.

They have had the vaccinations and booster. However, we are a long 70 miles (part on dirt road) from any VET and it is not a trip we would want to take at night.

So, if we had to buy antibiotics for the dogs at the local pharmacy, what would you reccommend? One dog weighs about 65 lbs and the other 30.

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[*] posted on 7-29-2008 at 07:27 PM


my recommendation is to have your veterinarian stateside, or your local vet in baja, prescribe the antibiotics that you may need, and then you will have them on hand. For me to prescribe a treatment for an animal i havent seen is actually considered negligent/malpractice.....who knows, antibiotic allergy?, kidney disease, etc....so in good conscience, see your vet, get a prescription and have it on hand.....they should be seen anually anyway....and dont forge to have them tested with the 4dx test for ehrlichia, heartworm, anaplasma and lymes.....and heartworm prevention
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[*] posted on 7-29-2008 at 07:43 PM


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my recommendation is to have your veterinarian stateside, or your local vet in baja, prescribe the antibiotics that you may need, and then you will have them on hand. For me to prescribe a treatment for an animal i havent seen is actually considered negligent/malpractice.....who knows, antibiotic allergy?, kidney disease, etc....so in good conscience, see your vet, get a prescription and have it on hand.....they should be seen anually anyway....and dont forge to have them tested with the 4dx test for ehrlichia, heartworm, anaplasma and lymes.....and heartworm prevention


I really apologize. After I asked the question, I knew it was not an OK thing to ask and it would be unprofessional for you to answer. I really intended to remove it. Again, I do apoligize.

We will ask our vet here; she knows both of them well! Your heartworm prevention advice is really great. Since we used to live in Calexico and often visit my mother-in-law in the Sierra foothills, we are very faithful with the heartworm prevention, frontline, etc. Good advice for everyone

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[*] posted on 7-30-2008 at 09:20 AM


no apology needed......and again, theres so much ehrlichia (my own dog got it and almost died), its important to test and theres a good test now for it.....
again, no problema
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[*] posted on 7-30-2008 at 09:27 AM


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no apology needed......and again, theres so much ehrlichia (my own dog got it and almost died), its important to test and theres a good test now for it.....
again, no problema


Isn't that one of the tick borne diseases? I know we had our little rescure tested for everything when we got her because she was covered with ticks and fleas.

We seem to have good luck with the frontline in keeping ticks off the dogs, but will consider more tests.

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[*] posted on 7-30-2008 at 09:54 AM


hi diane,
annually ask for the 4 dx test from idexx.....it has all the vector borne illness that would be seen usually in mexico....heartworm, ehrlicha, anaplasma, lymes....(really only 3 of 4, dont see much lymes) that way one test does all....if there is a positive on the ehrlichia your vet will want to put them on doxycycline...
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[*] posted on 8-27-2008 at 04:20 PM


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Hi all,
An update to my post on the Mexican antivenin made by Bioclon. We found a reliable source in Ensenada, you can buy it at any Del Sol farmacia. It cost us 880 pesos per dose, pretty cheap considering the vastly inferior stuff available on the American market is 10X's the price and has a very short shelf life!
This stuff is considered to be the best on any market it is a 3rd generation antivenin, with none of the risk of anaphylaxis that conventional antivenin has. I have some freinds who are herpatologists and this is the stuff they swear by! It is powered and needs no refigeration, also it is administered intramuscularly which is much easier!

just an FYI post for those who live far from medical attention




Hi, I'm looking for antivenin, I've been calling all pharmacies, and recently called the Del Sol farmacia in Ensenada and they told me that it was the vaccine, not the antivenin, the antivenin costs 400 dlls each getting it directly from the Bioclon corporation.

But if you can find it else where for cheaper I would greatly appreciate the info.

I'm in search for some because I work at a vet emergency hospital and we need some to treat patients and apparently no one has any.

Thx in advance
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