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doradodan
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burgalry
After six years living in San Felipe, we have been broken into. They got a boom box, some jewelry, a BB gun, hope they flash it at a cop and they get
capped, some food items and generally trashed the place. There are some squatters living in the arroyo near the AM PM, anybody know how to get rid of
them. I think they are the guilty parties, they see when we com and go.
\"The time spent off the water, I\'m thinking of ways to get back in\"
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gnukid
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You can offer to pay the cops to solve it for you. Of course you will only be paying into the problem. But if you pay and say we want our stuff back
and the perps run out they will do it, you will need to pay $100-300 or more to be paid after the stuff comes back and the guys leave.
You can go to the arroyo and talk to the people and say something strange, but that is awkward. You could say, we are suspicious of you but we don't
want to believe it, just so you know... we are here to look around. Then they will get all crazy and over-react, but it it will let them know that you
are not scared of them and you are looking into it. Problem is robbers are crazy druggies usually so its not a fun game to play.
Or you could just go to the police and sit there in the office and talk and talk and talk and keep visiting every day and finally they might do
something--to get you to leave.
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doradodan
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100 percent correct
I was just ranting, you are right, I donīt want to confront them, I would probably go to jail. Thanks for the reply
\"The time spent off the water, I\'m thinking of ways to get back in\"
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Sharksbaja
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That really sucks. You might not have to do anything because they took what they wanted. I suppose they could come back later but you might have
booby-traps or ?? waiting for them.
These little pathetic thieves are found everywhere but seems that lately they are much more brazen about it.
You might consider fake cameras and notas de pelegrosa on your door and windows. Funny how much of a deterent they can be. Of course you stand the
chance of having the (fake) camera stolen as well. 
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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palmeto99
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I was robbed 3 times when I first built my house. Everytime I left town we would get hit.
It was not until I installed hurricane shutters on all my windows and over my door that the robberies stopped.These are the same as I have on my house
in the states. It takes about an hour to roll them up or down and they are electric and have a manual override.
When you close up the house with these,they keep bad weather and the burglers out.
Expensive but very effective.
Installing them was tough as my mexican contractor had never seen them before but he did get it done.
The advice I am about to give you is worth what you are paying for it.
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JaraHurd
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Burglaries suck for sure. What about some surveillance cameras? Catch them on camera...then have the cops throw the guilty parties (probably
dopers...) in jail. Install a couple of dummy (non-operational, props) cameras along with one or two preferably hidden operational cameras. Will keep
them thinking and might even deter them.....just a thought... I do not know how local law enforcement down there works. good luck. J
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thebajarunner
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"Locks are to keep honest people honest"
That was one of my father's favorite quotes.
Hard to keep out those that are committed to invading your space.
Especially if you are away for any period of time.
sad to say...
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bajalou
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not much work in SF right now and lots of people are hungry. So it's not just the dopers at this time.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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bajaguy
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Surveillance Systems
Try this place. they have some great stuff at reasonable prices. I have used their products and recommend them.
http://www.supercircuits.com/
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thebajarunner
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I think my (and my Dad's) point was
"Locks don't keep bad people out"
And I agree- a busted finger or two would be a lot better reminder than a night or two in the slam and then out on probation.
Better yet, how about the Muslim solution...
Cut off the hand that steals...
not a bad
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CaboRon
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The very BEST defence is to have people living in the home full time ..... not much else really works.
CaboRon
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greybaby
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Oh does this ever bring back memories. We were burglarized twice in five days when we rented a house in Ensenada. The first time we called the
police, went down and did the report, blah, blah, blah. The second time I was sputtering mad and called the police. Two of them arrived in minutes
and walked through the house with us and basically told us there was nothing they could do. We lost probably $5000 worth of stuff and I was hopping
mad. Little good that did. We ended up moving quickly to the house we were building in Cantu and even though it wasn't done we felt a little safer.
One of our friends in Ensenada who had been a former drug dealer told us not to take it personally - that is what he had done when he was into drugs
and he stole from wherever he could to support his habit. And he made it clear that the police would do nothing - they were probably being paid by
the ones who robbed us. Live and learn, I guess.
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CaboRon
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Don't you just hate people who say
"It wasn't personel" or
"Don't take it personally"
It is personel 
CaboRon
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greybaby
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Absolutely made me feel not one bit better when I was told not to take it personally. They invaded my privacy, robbed me of any security I may have
felt and we felt violated and afraid for a long time. Yes, it is personal.
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JaraHurd
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If you are going to invest in a good lock...google lock "bumping" and educate yourself on it. Then don't install those kinds of locks. They are very
easy to compromise.
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JaraHurd
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..maybe it is me..but...I would not tolerate living in a place where the cops did nothing or were so corrupt they did not arrest someone in the face
of exceedingly strong evidence that a specific person did a crime such as burglary. Why would anyone live in such a place?
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
.. Why would anyone live in such a place? |
JH,
Because the L.A. cops scare the chit out of them
Don't believe everything you think....
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JaraHurd
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I don't see much of a point living in a place where one would feel so unsafe..especially in one's own home. That I don't get. And in such a corrupt
system any action you take on your own would probably result in your own incarceration. I hope this sort of thing is not that common.
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Sallysouth
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Last year when I was staying with Mija and family in Cabo, all the homes everywhere around them had been broken into and robbed.Theirs was the only
one that had not been.As CaboRon posted, there was always someone in the home,mostly the nanny or housekeeper, during the day when they were at
work.Seems to be the only deterent.At that same time we had heard about a couple that were awoken late at nite to find a man inside the home.The
husband apparently had surprised the man and held him(somehow) until the cops could get there.Well...the cops said there was nothing they could do.No
evidence that he was robbing them, and they would need to let him go. And that was the end of that. I think self protection is what people need in
Baja.IMHO.Pepper spray for close encounters, lights and bells and whistles for home invasions,big dogs for large properties,and if you are gone, hire
a house sitter,full time, live in.(I know, not so easy).
[Jarahurd, have you ever been to Baja?)Edited on 8-29-2008 by Sallysouth]
[Edited on 8-29-2008 by Sallysouth]
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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JaraHurd
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Sally...I have been to Baja many times and I get the draw. It is a beautiful place. But if trying to discredit me or my opinion by asking such a
ridiculous question makes you feel better or safer, that is fine. Criminals are unpredictable. Each is a different as any other kind of human.
Burglaries are particularly scary crimes because they occur in the most sacred of personal space...our homes. Although I agree with Cabo Ron.....is it
really a practical way of preventing burglaries or other violent crimes? Occasionally homicides occur during burglaries. Sometimes the suspects of
violent crimes have no criminal histories. How well do you know the criminal mind? It is a very scary thing. Security ranks #1 in my book. I am not
saying I would not visit or even live in Mexico. I am saying that I would absolutely not live in a community where law enforcement was so corrupt,
uncaring OR actually part of the problem. Would you?
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