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Bob and Susan
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elecrtricty was on yesterday afternoon
no water in all parts yet
one of the two pumps is still down
it got flooded
the boys are working it
maybe tomorrow
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Coatlallope
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In Mulege, the water was about 5-6 feet deep in the Oasis, 8-9 feet deep in the Orchard and was about 6-7 feet deep at the Jungle.
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palmeto99
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Lets hope thats the last of these storms but the season has a month left. I would clean but not rebuild until Oct.
The advice I am about to give you is worth what you are paying for it.
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EngineerMike
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Word I heard today from someone who scrambled outa the Oasis was that water levels downstream were higher than after H.John due to the large fill
placed across from lighthouse to Restaurante Almeja (or el Patron depending on when you were there last). That was where the deep channel was after
John, with blockage in the old channel on the south side. Couldn't say how factual that water level observation is.
City water came on @ south side of river this a.m., 8/27 about 10:00, so cleaning has commenced in earnest. I'm on the road in the a.m., Mulege
Saturday late afeternoon.
Small bridge under the big bridge is gone, along w/a good size piece of road to the Mission.
Here are some photos by one of the high school teachers:
http://www.mirandayee.spaces.live.com/
The large failed retaining wall is behind the Jungle restaurant.
[Edited on 8-28-2008 by EngineerMike]
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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Sharksbaja
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Thanks Mike. I believe the difference in water height was determined by the tides at the time. I suppose that built-up berm or rather beachhead that
was natural as has happened in the past raised the river level at that area.
Do you know if that was intentionally back-filled after "John"?
Corky
[Edited on 8-28-2008 by Sharksbaja]
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EngineerMike
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the sandspit was there since late 90's that I know of. My guess is in geologic times its been there, then not depending on floods. reason I
equivocated on the report is the distance between Jungle more or less and the sandspit. Doesn't seem logical to me that there would be significantly
higher water level at that distance especially considering the amount that the estuary widens.
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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Coatlallope
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Mulege during Julio
Mulege during Julio
A good example of why it is not good to build in a river's flood plain.
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Cypress
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Any word about storm surge damage down at Posada, Coyote?
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CasaManzana
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As the only summer resident at Posada, I can say....
we faired pretty well. Two casas with minor roof damage and one where the waves damaged the rock foundation. All in all, the place looks
like...well, like a storm hit it. At one point the beach was really torn up with huge gouges and ruts. Then when the wind changed from the east and
the rollers brought all the sand back in.
I took a quick tour of El Buro and see Birtha's restaurant had all the furniture outside and was scooping out water and sand. My quick buzz through
the beach casas didn't show any casa damage to speak of
Things are expensive, but at least we get a free trip around the sun once a year
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Cypress
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CasaManzana, Thanks for the info.
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CasaChristie
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Some Damage on the Hill
One house on the hill at Posada lost part of their roof. Another house, newly under construction also had roof damage (lost a section of tiles) and
one house had it's windows blown out, possibly from flying debris. We're waiting to hear from the guard about the total extent of damage there.
Coyote beach lost about 5 ft. of the beach, but the pictures look like they faired okay all-in-all.
Thanks to all for your wonderful reporting of the situation.
Jean & John
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idleguy
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We really appreciate the reports from everybody down there. So sad, just hard to put in words. We put in a sea wall earlier this year hoping that it
would help with the high tides and wind waves. A surge and 4' waves? We'll see....leaving on the 12th.
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Bob H
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Does anyone know how the Hotel Cuesta Real came through this? My wife and I stayed there and had a great time with the caretaker, Ken. At the time
his wife was out of town. Ken took very good care of us and even helped me repair a plumbing problem on my cabover. Ken can tell you a wild story
about how they escaped to their rooftop during Hurricane John.
Great pool area and small restuarant/bar on the riverfront.
Any news on this place would be nice to know.
Bob H
[Edited on 8-29-2008 by Bob H]
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Sharksbaja
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I imagine they got hit too Bob. Very sad for all of us.
According to some, we pretty much deserved it. I don't know about them but I must have!
It will be up and running in no time I'm sure.
Thanks for your concern. Corky
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
I imagine they got hit too Bob. Very sad for all of us.
According to some, we pretty much deserved it. I don't know about them but I must have!
It will be up and running in no time I'm sure.
Thanks for your concern. Corky |
I don't think anyone deserves a hit like this - so soon after John. What about every 50 to 100 years between something this drastic? That doesn't
make it deserving at all. It's just another freak event. I hope you all come through this sooner than later. Bob H
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Pescador
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Nobody deserved this storm. How can you put all your hopes and dreams into a place like Mulege and we all know that when you are north that you spend
all your time and energy planning for your next trip south. It is so devastating to have something that you love so much get hurt or destroyed by a
rainstorm and there are really no words to express it. Sure there are those "super-intelligent" people who never would have built there, but then
again they never had a chance to fall in love with the place, the climate, and the people. So those comments are way out of line and totally
inappropriate and really do nothing to ease the pain for the loss. There are places in Baja that I can not relate to but that does not lessen the
connection and emotion felt by those who have chosen to be there. I feel great remorse for those who have suffered damage and hope that they return
quickly to the positive and good space that they had before.
[Edited on 8-29-2008 by Pescador]
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Sharksbaja
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Spoken like a true Pescador human being, gracias.
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palmeto99
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
I imagine they got hit too Bob. Very sad for all of us.
According to some, we pretty much deserved it. I don't know about them but I must have!
It will be up and running in no time I'm sure.
Thanks for your concern. Corky |
Shark,
No one thinks you deserved the flooding .
If you were in the states and got wiped out three years out of five because of high water,.People would wonder why you did not build somewhere else,
on higher ground or at the very least build on stanchions (posts)to at least the new established high water mark.
There will be no shortage of clothing, supplies and other sundries as required and donated if it floods again this year or the next, People will just
shake their head at those who did not heed mother natures warning.
The advice I am about to give you is worth what you are paying for it.
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Al G
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Yell if you want to...this was a small TS...it came over the top of me and rained for 3 days
what is up with that...we have many ruts...Mulege is wiped out???
After passing Todos Santos it dropped in power by 30-40%. This was nothing compared to what may come...or John.
Someone said 2, 50-100 year storms in two years????????????
This was a small tropical "nothing" storm. Someone needs to ask what is up?
I feel for the losses, but still have to ask WHY?
Cypress...sorry, cannot restrain myself to one liners for post count...for god sakes say something that means something.
edit: spell checker worst then me... well maybe in 50-100 year perfect storm
[Edited on 8-29-2008 by Al G]
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The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Sharksbaja
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I won't resort to name calling.......
Nobody likes a Pollyanna except maybe a few like-minded saps.
Let me repeat something and ask you this stupid question because you DID read it before.
Question: (w/o hitting any search engine)
How many people in the world live in places vunerable to the effects of water and why?
clue: The Earths' surface is 7/8 water.
And one more thang Mr Prophecy, don't expect me to invite you to our semi-annual flood sale or dinner float party!!!
Oh & btw , if you knew our place you would understand why it still stands and why it can be cleaned up with relative ease.
Al, maybe it's just an evil god at work and some of his minions gather here.
Cuidadoso!
[Edited on 8-29-2008 by Sharksbaja]
[Edited on 8-29-2008 by Sharksbaja]
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