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dianaji
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Windmill in Mexico?
i was telling a friend that i was going to get a windmill installed and this is what he said,
I have an American friend living in baja,Velle de Trinidad.When I asked him about solar/wind/alternative energy,he said:The
Government ownes the power company,and Alternative energy is "ILLEGAL"!!"
is this true? please tell me before i get this started!
diana
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
i was telling a friend that i was going to get a windmill installed and this is what he said,
I have an American friend living in baja,Velle de Trinidad.When I asked him about solar/wind/alternative energy,he said:The
Government ownes the power company,and Alternative energy is "ILLEGAL"!!"
is this true? please tell me before i get this started!
diana |
Yes, the government owns the power company.
No, alternative energy isn't illegal.
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Eugenio
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As long as you don't try to sell the electricity you generate you're fine - and don't plan on connecting it to the grid.
Alternative energy encompasses a lot more than electricity - Mexico is actively seeking an entry into alternative energy industries - in fact it's
desperate - since it will probably become an importer of oil within 15 years or so. I'd even bet (some - not much) that Mexico builds a new nuclear
electricity plant before the US does.
However individuals cannot build nuclear plants in Mexico - Article 27.
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There is an architect in La Paz, very successful and influential I was told who managed to build a solar panel system, generate electricity for his
own needs, plug it into the grid and "sell" his surplus power to the CFE. Not an easy task but succeeded at it. Problem is I don't know his name.
Does anybody know him?
Aripes
God bless America
and Baja tambien
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I will add some hearsay with the rest of it ... It is said that here in Todos Santos that CFE is offering to buy back excess production in from your
home power system .... this is being offered as the grid expands out into El Otro Lado ... I suspict that some of these grand homes have pretty
extensive solar set-ups .....
I cannot identify anything official 
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these things can be very noisy allso, check with your neighbor-friends first so they stay friends!
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Don't know what you're thinking of using the power for but the little propeller style wind generators make lots of noise and don't produce enough
power for a large RV.
The larger ones cost big bucks as do most of the vertical axis generators (they are generally much quieter).
Unless you have a huge battery bank, you will need solar as well as wind since the wind power production will vary greatly with time.
If you are not seeing at least a 12 knot wind average for at least 8 hours a day, every day, the wind generator will be less efficient than solar in
Baja.
If you have the bucks and already have a solar system, a small wind generator can supplement the system on cloudy, windy days.
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There is a large wind farm in san Juanico. Don't know who owns it.
[Edited on 12-2-2008 by norte]
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Don't know what you're thinking of using the power for but the little propeller style wind generators make lots of noise and don't produce enough
power for a large RV.
The larger ones cost big bucks as do most of the vertical axis generators (they are generally much quieter).
Unless you have a huge battery bank, you will need solar as well as wind since the wind power production will vary greatly with time.
If you are not seeing at least a 12 knot wind average for at least 8 hours a day, every day, the wind generator will be less efficient than solar in
Baja.
If you have the bucks and already have a solar system, a small wind generator can supplement the system on cloudy, windy days.
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it's for my 2 bedroom mobile home...i have the info if interested.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LOSARIPES
There is an architect in La Paz, very successful and influential I was told who managed to build a solar panel system, generate electricity for his
own needs, plug it into the grid and "sell" his surplus power to the CFE. Not an easy task but succeeded at it. Problem is I don't know his name.
Does anybody know him? |
| Quote: | by CaboRon
I will add some hearsay with the rest of it ... It is said that here in Todos Santos that CFE is offering to buy back excess production in from your
home power system .... this is being offered as the grid expands out into El Otro Lado ... I suspict that some of these grand homes have pretty
extensive solar set-ups .....
I cannot identify anything official |
The CFE would be foolish not to buy it back - although I haven't heard of any formal programs - afterall the CFE is subsidized. But to plug into the
grid without telling the CFE would be against Article 27. The CFE doesn't want any competition - but at the same time it's a money loser - go
figure....
Kind of off your topic Diana - sorry...
CaboRon
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| Quote: | | Quote: | by CaboRon
I will add some hearsay with the rest of it ... It is said that here in Todos Santos that CFE is offering to buy back excess production in from your
home power system .... this is being offered as the grid expands out into El Otro Lado ... I suspict that some of these grand homes have pretty
extensive solar set-ups .....
I cannot identify anything official |
The CFE would be foolish not to buy it back - although I haven't heard of any formal programs - afterall the CFE is subsidized. But to plug into the
grid without telling the CFE would be against Article 27. The CFE doesn't want any competition - but at the same time it's a money loser - go
figure....
Kind of off your topic Diana - sorry...
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i appreciate any feedback, cause this a decision i cannot make alone, since i am so windmill un-savvy.
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dianaji - good luck with your project, I am also dreaming of a wind generator one day - except here it would run a desal plant.
Of course it's legal to have a private wind/sun/gasoline generator. The only problem (as Diver points out) is that battery requirements make it
expensive - there are very few places in Baja where the wind is constant enought to make battery-less wind power feasible.
Legislation was passed in 2006/2007 term allowing CFE to buy back power from private generation - the only problem is that many CFE districts are not
up to technical speed on the interconnection.
As Eugenio says, it is illegal to plug into the grid without the permission of CFE - but that would be true of the USA as well - it only takes one
idiot doing a home-connect to the grid to fry an unsuspecting linesman . . .
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If I understood correctly, Diana's place is located on a hilltop above La Mision. That particular locale does get a lot of channeled air movement up
through there.
Am I correct Diane?
If so, she should be able to generate some significant power, although I do agree it would be good to augment with solar...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
If I understood correctly, Diana's place is located on a hilltop above La Mision. That particular locale does get a lot of channeled air movement up
through there.
Am I correct Diane?
If so, she should be able to generate some significant power, although I do agree it would be good to augment with solar... |
yup, it's high up on a hill and at times VERY windy! i got a quote and for the windmill and all components $700, not including installation. know
anyone that might do this?
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I can get someone to help you with the installation there Diana and they shouldn't charge you too much. I will be back in Rosarito on Thursday and we
can talk.
u2u me...
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the noise will drive you NUTTS!!!
go somewhere that has a wind generator installed and listen FIRST!!!
whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh
it NEVER STOPS!!!
solar panels are completely quiet
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windmill
problem is, i do not yet live there permanently. i will be coming dec. 11-14th. would love the help however!
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How much power do you think you will get from a $700 windmill ?
Not near enough for any cooking or heating; maybe a few small appliances.
Do you have solar or another power source yet ?
Generator ?
Battery storage ?
I think a generator is your best option for when you are there.
If you don't like the constant noise, get a few batteries to charge once or twice a day and a small inverter.
If you want power while you are gone you will need batteries and either an auto generator control, solar panels or wind to charge your batteries.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
How much power do you think you will get from a $700 windmill ?
Not near enough for any cooking or heating; maybe a few small appliances.
Do you have solar or another power source yet ?
Generator ?
Battery storage ?
I think a generator is your best option for when you are there.
If you don't like the constant noise, get a few batteries to charge once or twice a day and a small inverter.
If you want power while you are gone you will need batteries and either an auto generator control, solar panels or wind to charge your batteries.
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the man who is making this windmill has been doing research on it for many years, and i know him. he has found a way to do it that cheaply. he tells
me that i can have power from it for all that i need. oh, i do have a propane for cooking and of course i want to do solar cooking also. also am
buying a propane refrigerator.
yes, i just bought a 3000 w generator. still don't understand the inverter idea. can u explain?
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