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bajalera
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Gruesome news
The Spanish CNN channel in La Paz reported that 177 people were killed in TJ during November, and someone told me that some of them--including two
cops--were beheaded there over the weekend.
Do any of you Norte guys know if this is all drug-related, or what?
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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BajaGeoff
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Hey Bajalera,
It is rival drug gangs fighting with each other and the police/government. Unfortunately there have been some innocent bystanders caught in the
crossfire, but the majority of the deaths are those involved in the drug trade.
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comitan
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Better info here;
http://www.afntijuana.info/indexnavidad.html
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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bacquito
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Take no comfort in the killings being between drug gangs, corrupt police and honest police.
Who wants to visit a city where you have to step over dead, decapitated bodies to visit a restaurant. We can avoid the situation but the poor people
who live in these cities must be terrified- a truly tragic situation for Mexico
bacquito
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nobaddays
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it is so sad
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David K
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On the radio today it said the Tijuana police chief stepped down after 3 DOZEN murders just occured... anyone hear more on this?
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
Take no comfort in the killings being between drug gangs, corrupt police and honest police.
Who wants to visit a city where you have to step over dead, decapitated bodies to visit a restaurant. We can avoid the situation but the poor people
who live in these cities must be terrified- a truly tragic situation for Mexico |
I can report I went out for dinner tonight in TJ near my home. I had a delicious bacon wrapped hot dog con todo. I didn't see one dead body nor any
detached heads. Although I have stopped eating tacos de cabeza. 
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the chief was fired and replaced by a military guy from mexico city.
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Woooosh
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The TJ chief was fired and replaced by the military guy they had stationed in Rosarito Beach. The one they tried to assisinate last December.
Looks more and more like martial law will be declared soon in Baja Norte- all the players are getting into place- the Miltary now heads the Police and
the Police are being replaced by the military on the streets.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Ford
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I heard on the radio yesterday in San Francisco, CA that something like 27 people were killed just last weekend. Nine heads were found in plastic
bags, 3 of which were confirmed police officers and the others were assumed to be police as well...
It is crazy to think that a police force that had seemed to be changing for the better can be wiped out like this without some major forces moving in
and stopping the violence. Makes you wonder how far up the corruption goes??????
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Woooosh
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So far only 4% of TJ police being psychologically screened have passed with a "recommended" rating. Last week they put 500 Army troops in east TJ to
replace those cops while they go through the screening process. They fired the police Chief of TJ yesterday and brought in an Army guy - who is up to
speed from running Rosarito Beach police the past year. Seems like it is all but a miltatry solution. They are all screened and they only get paid
half what a TJ cop used to make.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
So far only 4% of TJ police being psychologically screened have passed with a "recommended" rating. Last week they put 500 Army troops in east TJ to
replace those cops while they go through the screening process. They fired the police Chief of TJ yesterday and brought in an Army guy - who is up to
speed from running Rosarito Beach police the past year. Seems like it is all but a miltatry solution. They are all screened and they only get paid
half what a TJ cop used to make. |
It will only get worse ..... how do you weed out over a hundred years of corruption ....
CaboRon
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The Gull
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Thoughtful drug assassins?
Bagging the decapitated heads? Is this part of a city beautification effort? How thoughtful.
What can anyone expect for the truth in these situations when there are representations of stepping "over dead bodies to visit a restaurant." No
exaggeration or hyperbole in that statement, is there? 
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
So far only 4% of TJ police being psychologically screened have passed with a "recommended" rating. Last week they put 500 Army troops in east TJ to
replace those cops while they go through the screening process. They fired the police Chief of TJ yesterday and brought in an Army guy - who is up to
speed from running Rosarito Beach police the past year. Seems like it is all but a miltatry solution. They are all screened and they only get paid
half what a TJ cop used to make. |
It will only get worse ..... how do you weed out over a hundred years of corruption ....
CaboRon |
Or stop the millions of illegal drug users in the United States that are supplying the demand the cartels are fighting over to fulfill. Every American
using illegal drugs is as culpable as the corrupt TJ cops. Don't give me this bad Mexican, good American crap.
As a TJ resident I say organized crime is better than disorganized crime. Allow the cartels to thrive and let the drugs flow to the north to the
users. This is like the early 90s before the Arellano Felix Organization gained control.
[Edited on 12-3-2008 by k-rico]
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awfulart
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The law of "Supply & Demand" always rules. Drugs or illegals!
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k-rico
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Supplying drugs to US consumers is a huge business, I think impossible to stop.
"Other government agencies, including the Government Accountability Office and the National Drug Intelligence Center, have estimated that Mexico's
cartels earn upwards of $23 billion in illicit drug proceeds from the United States"
A big reason for the dramatic increase in the violence, United States funding to do the impossible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9rida_Initiative
[Edited on 12-3-2008 by k-rico]
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movinguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
Take no comfort in the killings being between drug gangs, corrupt police and honest police.
Who wants to visit a city where you have to step over dead, decapitated bodies to visit a restaurant. We can avoid the situation but the poor people
who live in these cities must be terrified- a truly tragic situation for Mexico |
Juarez is worse - NOBODY goes out after dark. 
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Bagging the decapitated heads? Is this part of a city beautification effort? How thoughtful.
What can anyone expect for the truth in these situations when there are representations of stepping "over dead bodies to visit a restaurant." No
exaggeration or hyperbole in that statement, is there?
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I mentioned this quote to my wife's family in Tijuana and asked them if they had ever had to "step over" any dead/decapitated bodies.
Sorry to disappoint some here but their answer was no.
I do remember years ago when I had one of my offices in Long Beach that we used to have to step over drunk/stoned homeless folks out on the front
sidewalk to get into the office at times and one day one of them didn't move - he had passed on during the night. I guess that was my only experience
having to "step over" dead people.
Is there a lot of violence going on in Tijuana right now? Absolutely. But it is mostly targeted at rival narcos and the average rates are no greater
than New Orleans.
Are they "stepping over" dead people when going out to dine in New Orleans?
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The Gull
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Gallup worse than TJ
One winter night in Gallup, NM I had to step over an Indian who froze to death after getting drunk. He was at the gas station blocking access to the
gas pump. What lack of courtesy he demonstrated. If he was in TJ, do you think his head would have been bagged?
[Edited on 12-4-2008 by The Gull]
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