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AcuDoc
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Small boat trip...your thoughts
I've wanted to do this for years and think I might be able to this May. I have a 16.5 foot Klamath w/50hp 4 stroke. I get between 5-6 mpg. I have a 12
gal. bow tank and 6 gal stern tank. I plan on carrying four 6 gal. jerry cans to be safe.
I'll camp in coves with my tent and camping equipment for the most part. Enjoy the views and fishing the mornings, watch for the wind and places for a
safe shore anchorage. Get off the water early enough to avoid the wind.
I'll probably stay with 10 miles of shore. I've spent a lot of time on the SOC and play it smart. I know what I and my boat are capable of and I'm no
fool.
I have a saying "There is only one rule in nature. You screw up you die. DON'T break the rule!"
Day 1
Leave San Lucas Cove in the morning when the tide lets me, lunch in Chivato, then to Los Naranjos and hang for 2 days.
Day 2
Los Naranjos and check out Concepcion
Day 3
Los Naranjos to Puerto Escondido to top of fuel and head out to an island for the night
Day 4
Agua Verde?
Day 5
La Paz
Day 6
La Paz
Day 7
La Paz head north
Day 8
head north
Day 9
head north
Day 10
Puerto Escondido to top of fuel and head out to an island for the night
Day 11
Loreto area to Los Naranjos
Day 12
Los Naranjos to SLC
possibly add two more days to screw around so maybe a 14 day r/t SLC to La Paz.
All opinions welcome and appreciated
[Edited on 12-21-2008 by AcuDoc]
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Sounds like a great trip. Go for it!
zac
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Russ
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That really sounds like a great adventure! It would be really a good Idea to have a buddy boat on a trip like this. Good Radio with full size antenna
& charged cell phone. Mid May on there will be more boaters out for an assist if things go awry. Also may want to have someone on call to move
your trailer if you don't want to do the round trip. One possible problem I see is at night. What to do with the boat & equipment if your forced
make camp? The winds are really screwy that time of year so a sheltered anchorage maybe questionable. You'll be really heavy and your boat will handle
much differently than you may be accustom to. I wanted to do that trip too but never got around to it. Some one here will have done it and have some
1st hand advice for you.
Have a Blast!
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AcuDoc
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Thanks Russ
At the very least I want to do from SLC to Los Naranjos or maybe even the Loreto area and spend a 7-10 days exploring and it's probably more doable.
Then I'm off to La Ventana for a few weeks.
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Get a SPOT tracker....it will be good for you, your family and friends and anybody who has to come and help you:
http://www.findmespot.com/en/
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El Comadante Loco
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Sounds like a great trip. I agree with the idea of a buddy boat and contingency plan to be pick up in La Paz if needed. A friend of mine went out
of puertocitos on 17ft boat with a 40hp outboard.. They developed motor problems and did not get back until after 10:pm. We were concerned and
started to make plans to launch a search. Thankfully they had a 5hp kicker which got them back safely. I hope you plan to take an extra motor just in
case!!! I also recommend you take along a SPOT.. We used them on our 6 week off road Baja trip and would not ever travel again without one.. Buena
Suerte!!!
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Sounds like your are going solo....If so take a sat. phone and a few reliable numbers of folks along the way...Still sounds awesome....ya gott a do
it!!
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Pick your anchorages well.
If you are counting on using the continuous-loop-from-shore method of anchoring out, I hope you can find anchorages that will let you keep the boat
that close to shore. Or are you just gonna beach the boat and let the next high tide float you?
Most of the guide books that talk about anchorages assume you will sleep on a boat on the hook. I cant recall much info in the Cunningham or Jack
Williams guide books that will help you there. What if the safe anchorage is farther out than the loop you can make? Or will you just swim in?
Chivato is only about 45 minutes by water from SLC, if that. Might as well just head to Naranjos which might only be about another hour away, for
lunch.
Naranjos is a bit exposed as an anchorage. Santispac would be much better but then theres those damn jake brakes on the semis coming down the hill.
I'm more familiar with the run from Loreto to La Paz. You will have good anchorages at Escondido, Agua Verde, the "hook" at Isla San Francisco and
then I guess you would head to Marina de La Paz.
Maybe consider driving the truck and trailer to La Paz and taking a bus back to SLC and then commencing the cruise. That way you have a vehicle for
the La Paz area and you can head to La Ventana when done with La Paz. I dont think you are gonna want to return to SLC by water.
Someone on the board will know where to store a truck and trailer in La Paz. Maybe Marina de La Paz as well.
[Edited on 12-21-2008 by Hook]
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May is probably fine but late june/july is more stable. If you can, I would wait a month or two just to raise the odds for a calmer journey.
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AcuDoc...I made drawings of my own small boat anchorages, fishing holes, and routes from the early 70's and throughout the 80's.
I made the same kind of trips in a 16ft Lund a few times...and many coast voyages in my old 30ft Pompano. Went north to San Felipe one one trip with
lots of time at BOLA area (boat camped on Refugio), then other trips south to Agua Verde, Cabo, Mag Bay, Scorpion Bay, San Ignacio lagoon, Asuncion,
etc.
When you get to Conception Bay, you are welcome to look at my old scrapbooks...lots of info there for you to use.
It's an easy trip and full of adventure... a trifle cool at nights this time of year, but by May it will be a piece of cake. You will run into many
kayakers making the same trip.
Good luck and I know you will have fun.
[Edited on 12-21-2008 by Pompano]
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AcuDoc
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After reading the comments here is thought.
I had thought about what Hook said awhile ago. So with that in mind and the comments
Day 1
Leave San Lucas Cove to Los Naranjos and hang for 2 days.
Day 2
Los Naranjos and check out Concepcion
Day 3
Los Naranjos to Puerto Escondido to top of fuel and preferably head out to Isla Danzante for the night, if not Escondido of maybe Juancalito (I
haven't been there for awhile)
Day 4
Loreto area to Agua Verde
Day 5
Agua Verde to Isla San Francisco
Day 6
Isla San Francisco to La Paz
Day 7
La Paz (truck/trailer waiting) for the night
Day 8
Drive La Paz to La Ventana
tnx for all the help
[Edited on 12-21-2008 by AcuDoc]
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a couple of things i've seen...
gas weight about 8 pounds a gallon
water also
equipment is heavy too
watch your total weight or you could overload the boat
and spin the prop on the motor
i've seen boaters want to be completely self contained for the entire trip and it's really not necessary
stay light and plan to buy supplies along the way
they are available...
example...loreto
you can park right in the harbor and walk easily
you'll need to get a marine permit anyway at the port captain
the ride from the mulege and naranjos in the bay
to Puerto Escondido is pretty long haul...
i'd make a back-up plan to camp somewhere in between
make sure to get the GOOD antenna for your marine radio
(there are several)
don't settle for a cheap antenna
get two gps units
a good one and a hand held unit
have a water proof hand held vhf for back up
lots of rope
heavy chain as long as the boat or longer
danforth anchor
and a slide hammer shore anchor
wind could be your only problen but naranjos has that protected marina area for the boat (almost finished)
you'll be fine in the WORST wind
good luck
we could assist when you arrive
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I agree with all the other comments, particularly that the run from conception to puerto escondido is a long haul. You might consider overnighting at
ramalita, pulpito, or the "secret cove" just south of pulpito. Best time IMHO is late june/early july for dorado, but remember they usually arrive
with south winds. Take care with anchoring and swing.
Great trip. I did it many years ago in a 21 footer and had a ball. One of life's great treats: at anchor in warm, balmy weather with a cold drink
watching the sun set over the islands.
jim
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BOAT TRIP
Acudoc - you'll have a great time!
I also have a Klamath (15ft) with a 40 Yamaha and (important) a Suzuki 6 kicker. I have taken the boat from Agua Verde down to San Evaristo and La
Paz, and also range up and down in the Pacific from our ranch (opposite La Paz) to Bahia Magdalena and out to the Lusitania Banks.
As I recall, there is a very long stretch of coast from San Cosme (on road to Agua Verde where there is a very obliging ranchero with gas) to San
Evaristo that is all but deserted (this info 5 years old). You can probably get gas at San Evaristo - but it will cost . . .
Don't worry about anchorages - with our size boat there is an anchorage (or beach) about every 100 yards - stay relatively close to the coast anyway.
Agua Verde to La Paz in one day in any kind of sea will be a bodybreaker . . .
Let me know if I can help (Hell- even crew!). Here is a shot of Rosinante on Isla San Jose opposite San Evaristo.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Someone on the board will know where to store a truck and trailer in La Paz. Maybe Marina de La Paz as well. |
Nope, MLP storage is 100% full. You might try one of the haul out yards.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
wind could be your only problen but naranjos has that protected marina area for the boat (almost finished) |
Where is the marina at Naranjos relative to Mulege? How large a boat will it accomodate?
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Wow, Rob-------that is a lot of "motor" for a 15 foot Klamath. I assume it handles it ok, and it must really "haul". My 14 foot GREGOR only has a
15hp Johnson 2-stroke and it moves as fast as I ever want to go.
I am curious as to your comments on boat-handling with that big a motor. And is the Yamaha a 4-stroke, or 2-stroke?
As for the proposed trip on this thread------what a great adventure---something I have long dreamed of doing. The other big trip I always wanted to
do is from BOLA out to the "big Island" (Guadelupe), to circumnavigate it.
I hear the coast from Loreto to La Paz is just spectacular!!!
Go for it!!!
Barry
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AcuDoc,
Why San Lucas Cove and Naranjos? Do you have friends there?
If you began in Santispac, you could launch from the beach. Then cut right across the Bahia de Conception and around the point. Then head south. Great
inshore fishing, beaches and coves. With a boat that size, I wouldn't worry about where to take shelter. Also, May will be absolutely perfect
weather. You may have friends in Mulege or Conception that would be willing to let you park your truck and trailer.
When you are done, berth in La Paz or Loreto and take the bus back to Mulege. Get your truck/trailer and drive back down to pick up your boat.
Have fun. You have a great and doable adventure ahead!
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SMALL BOAT - LARGE MOTOR?
Barry A.
I bought the 40HP Yamaha 3 cyl commercial 2-stroke motor because it was the largest motor the US Coastguard would allow for the Klamath 15ft (why the
USCG is involved in motor choices without context information is a subject for another thread). I bought the 2-stroke because the power-to-weight
ratio is higher than the 4-stroke - and it IS a small boat as you point out.
On a calm Sea of Cortez (and presumably most inland lakes), it is perfectly adequate - for rough seas and, especially, launching through Pacific
breakers here at the ranch, it is inadequate to the point of being dangerous.
I haven't been around Isla Guadeloupe, although I know and love the coast all around BOLA and Las Animas (explored in a small Zodiac!) - one trip I
really recommend is a circumnavigation of Isla San Jose (out of San Evaristo or even La Paz if you can carry the gas).
Now that we have settled on the Pacific coast, my next boat is a traditional 23`panga (although I would like a side console) and a 65HP 4-stroke.
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almost the same trip that im planing to do.... wish you good luck have fun.... maybe we can plan something together i have 17' CC let me know
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