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Barry A.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2008 at 04:53 PM


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[*] posted on 12-21-2008 at 05:04 PM


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[*] posted on 12-21-2008 at 06:01 PM


Of course (duh) (why didn't I think of that???)

Thanks, Woody. (I never have been good with abreviations)

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[*] posted on 12-21-2008 at 06:53 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by AcuDoc
After reading the comments here is thought.

I had thought about what Hook said awhile ago. So with that in mind and the comments

Day 1
Leave San Lucas Cove to Los Naranjos and hang for 2 days.

Day 2
Los Naranjos and check out Concepcion

Day 3
Los Naranjos to Puerto Escondido to top of fuel and preferably head out to Isla Danzante for the night, if not Escondido of maybe Juancalito (I haven't been there for awhile)

Day 4
Loreto area to Agua Verde

Day 5
Agua Verde to Isla San Francisco

Day 6
Isla San Francisco to La Paz

Day 7
La Paz (truck/trailer waiting) for the night

Day 8
Drive La Paz to La Ventana

tnx for all the help

[Edited on 12-21-2008 by AcuDoc]


The last leg, La Paz to La Ventana could be among the best passing La Fortuna, Balnario El Coyote, Punta Mexia, Los Cruces, Punto Gordo. Why give it up the last leg for a ride in the truck? You can get gas at either marina palmira or marina costa baja and continue on your own to see some of the greatest coves and beaches en route?

I'm pretty jealous of your itinerary, I did loreto to Lapaz by Kayak once and met small boaters en route who really had a hard time finding places to land with the high winds and swell of February. There are only some many options.

Expect it to be a wet and wild trip until June.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2008 at 07:21 PM


If I'm able to do this it will have to be in mid-May. I've had some great weather that time of year but each year is also different.

I could do the LP to LV if I want, I have not made up my mind. My thoughts were to pull the boat, do my shopping in LP and then head to LV. I've spent a lot of time in LV in the past and know the area pretty well. There isn't much of the coast line from LP to LV that I have not seen. I'll be there for awhile waiting for some friends to fly in (private plane),

After a week or so I'll drive and they will fly to Serenidad. Do the pig roast then fly to San Carlos to see friends and fish for a few days. Then back to Baja and start north with maybe a couple days at San Lucas Cove.

[Edited on 12-22-2008 by AcuDoc]
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[*] posted on 12-21-2008 at 07:23 PM


PS
If someone wants to do the buddy boat thing I might be up for that.
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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 10:31 AM


AcuDoc,

Sounds like a great trip!

Only thing I'd say is something a couple others have also said: Concepcion to Escondido in a day seems like a needlessly long haul. It's certainly do-able with the right weather, but you won't have time for much besides traveling. So you'll miss out on a gorgeous stretch of coast and some great fishing. Back in the day, so to speak, I used to spend days at a time poking around that stretch solo -- just pile a bunch of groceries, beer and gas in the boat and go.



I've camped several times at a long, secluded, white-sand beach just north of Punta Sta Teresa. There's a big sand dune behind it that's easily visible from the water. There's decent shelter from south winds for a small boat, but you wouldn't want to do it in a norther.



Immediately north of that beach, though, there are a couple of very sheltered little coves. They're tight enough you want two anchors to keep from swinging a lot, and the shores are rocky, but for just getting out of the wind at night, they're great.

I also spent the night once -- 8, 9 years ago? -- in the little cove at San Nicolas, which is also an excellent small-boat anchorage with a steep cobble beach. When I stopped by it was July or August and none of the few gringo residents were there. The watchman was happy for the company and let us set up camp right on the beach, but he implies we probably wouldn't be allowed to if more people were around. I'm not sure what the situation at San Nicolas is now. Maybe someone else here does?

The inshore trolling around Isla San Ildefonso is unusually good with lots of nice leopard grouper, and the saddle between the south end of the island and Punta Pulpito is a great yellowtail spot. There's a good chance they'll still be around in May. Pangueros also get lots of huachinango (true red snapper) from that saddle, but I've never been able to find them. I've gotten a lot of early-season dorado around the southeast quadrant of the island within a mile or two of shore.

The pinnacles at the south end are really cool for snorkeling, and on the east side there's a sea cave you can drive a boat into at high tide.



There are also anchorages in the lee of Pulpito and in the beautiful bay at San Juanico a few more miles south, although I've never used them personally.

At any rate, the point is that if it were my trip I'd forego a day of messing around in Concepcion and spend it instead exploring the Punta Concepcion to Loreto stretch. In addition to the wild, pretty "outside" coast of the Concepcion peninsula, you'd be blowing right past Coronado and Carmen.

Good luck and have fun!

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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 12:36 PM


Doc. If I may be so bold, I think that you would be much happier if you made your trip in two Sections for 2 weeks at at time.

As you know I spent 38 years on the Sea of Cortez just in the Area that you are talking about. Once you are there and looking around you will see things that you just cannot pass by!!
Sta Teresa-- Lobster
San Antonio-- Lingcod
South of Pulpito-- White Lobster-Hot Water
Del Eldelfonso Isla- Birds Nest in states of Size,Amberjack, Sharks, Grouper, Yellowtail, and feed the Pelicans by hand in that little cave shown in the Photo
Stop at mercanerios and check out the Structure built by the "Fabians" of Canada
Coronado Ilsand{Where I can catch yellowtail anytime of the year]

Plus so many things in between.

Then on the Next r trip start south of Loreto all the way to Los Delores including Catalana island if the weather is good, Tambbechice, and the best fishing place in the World Las Animas Ilsand-Just a few miles off the point of Island San Jose.

I personaly prefer the Panga. You will have to be watchful off of Carmen, can get nasty for a small boat.
Take Plenty of Water!!!!!

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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 02:07 PM


Tnx for all the suggestions, I will keep them all in mind the closer I get to heading south. I would prefer to do this in June as the weather/seas are calmer. I might have to push it back a year to do that. It depends on what time I can spend in Baja and what the schedules are of friends of mine have.
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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 10:27 PM


ZThomas brings up a good point. Two REAL anchors with chain and rode are a must.

ZThomas, was that an older Mako you are on in those pics?




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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 10:41 PM


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yup.. Center console
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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 10:43 PM


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Quote:
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yup.. Center console


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[*] posted on 12-22-2008 at 11:22 PM


Quote:
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Tnx for all the suggestions, .... I might have to push it back a year to do that. ...


Don't put it off, AcuDoc. Do it now. Let the future take care of itself. Don't wait for the right time. You've already made your plans. Go through with it. The careful ones never accomplish anything. Carpe diem.

"The fox provides for himself. but God provides for the lion."

[Edited on 12-23-2008 by Skipjack Joe]
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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 06:04 AM


I agree with Joe, Larry.

Besides, if you DONT do it this year, you WILL be putting a whole nuther year of use on the engine and it's not getting any younger.

It would be interesting to get an estimate of the number of hours on it from Jim. Or, is there an internal hours meter on it?




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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 06:31 AM


may is nice...
the water isn't warm yet though
probably no dorado but
plenty of other fish

there may be some south wind but
really not too much
it's not bad

we stayed on our boat for a month one year in may and
didn't have any problems with winds

may is the month when all the "snowbirds" leave
85 degrees is just too hot for the "northern peoples"

we wouldn't skip conception bay
naranjos is very close to the mouth
easy in and easy out
and there is a lot of pretty sights in the bay
you do not see from the road as you pass

we still warn you about weight
alot of people still think its the old days here and
getting supplies and gas is very hard
it isn't...

we'd still "buddy boat" this strech
it's safer
it IS still "wild" out there and
there is no "Vessel Assist" available

make sure you have a GOOD radio and antenna
and a "handheld" back-up
and a GPS for locations and distances




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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 10:32 AM


PJ
I don't know how many hours are on the motor but it is excellent condition. The motor has relatively low hours. I would say probably no more then 200 hours over the 5-6 years I've owned it if that. I have always maintained it with my mechanic every spring. You have been in my boat many times and know how it handles. It is at my mechanics this winter stored inside. I had him give the boat/motor the entire once over. He has checked all wiring, welded any leaks, all oil /lube, filters and I had him even replace the impeller just for the heck of it.

I'm going to add an additional automatic bilge pump wired directly to the battery as my emergency backup. You know the anchor I have on it now and I am planning on buying an additional fortress anchor due to the light weight.

I have the great radio that you bought me for Xmas a few years ago and I bought the top of the line antenna and have had great radio checks to 40 miles out of SC. I also have the handheld I bought from you.

I decided to buy "The Spot" when I first saw these last year. A great price for a great piece of survival equipment.

When time gets closer I'll ask people for their input on gas etc. Most of the boat weight will come from water and fuel. As a backpacker for years I know how to pack/carry lightweight supplies.

I have also decided to drive the truck/trailer to La Paz and make it a one way trip. On the way I'll stop at Los Naranjos, Loreto, P. Escondido and the La Paz marina and mark them with my GPS. I'll also ask the board for coordinates for Agua Verde and points south that others on the board have mentioned as good spot over points

Again thanks to all for your info. It is greatly appreciated
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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 11:33 AM


Dang, you're so organized you've taken a lot of fun out of the trip. Ever heard the saying, "Living on the edge!" Grab a bunch of supplies and go for it! Predicaments are what make a trip memorable.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 12:08 PM


I don't care if you are backpacking 100 miles out in the Sierras, which I've done many times, or out on the Sea of Cortez in any boat, especially a small boat

I follow one rule....

In nature if you screw up you die, Don't Break The Rule!

[Edited on 12-23-2008 by AcuDoc]

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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 02:53 PM


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Dang, you're so organized you've taken a lot of fun out of the trip. Ever heard the saying, "Living on the edge!" Grab a bunch of supplies and go for it! Predicaments are what make a trip memorable.


That is a breathtaking statement-------Personally, I don't ever want "a lot of fun", or to "live on the edge" when I take any trip--------I fail to see any "fun" in dying, or coming close to it, just because of lack of planning and preparing.

That is NOT my cup of tea--------you have many others in your life that I think one should consider before commiting suicide, which in a sense, lack of planning is, in my humble opinion. (not to mention putting your rescuers in danger searching for you)

This will be a fantastic trip if the proper preparations are taken----a potential disaster if not.

To each his own, I suppose.

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[*] posted on 12-23-2008 at 05:55 PM


Hook,

Yep, a 19 that my parents bought new in New Orleans in 1969. Hell of a boat.

Here's a link to a little essay about it from Salt Water Sportsman back in 2002:

http://bajatrailerboating.com/main_pages/heirloom.html

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