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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
Speaking of PRI at least they did not have the issues of these NARCOS doing what they are doing now. If you killed a PRI official or cop your mama,
your mama's mama and anyone even remembering you would be killed in retailiation. During PRI control had some ventures into areas that now would get
you an 80 to 20 chance of coming out of ok without even a thought of trouble to me. Yes,Yes PRI did some awful thing and change needed to happen yea
yea yea so they tell me, just saying sometimes maybe were want change we think is for the good and bam it was only for the worse. Boils down to "Show
Me The Money" and I will show you what is right and what is wrong and as we all have learned one way or another "Money Is Always Right Never Wrong,"
just ask the other Cartel here in the States called Wall Street and Banks . Later amigos, bajafun777 |
Is that kind of like saying Iraq was better off under Sadam? What Iraq had before we ousted Sadam was the sytem that was needed to keep the tribes in
line? Though brutal at times- it was working for them- even if the western world found that system to be unacceptable? PRI vs PAN vs Whatever???
I think you're right, it is the Golden Rule... he who has the Gold rules.
[Edited on 1-18-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Whoooosh- To just expand on your point about Sadam, he was probably, potentially, our best ally versus Iran. He was contained, and the UN inspectors
were working there. Bone-headed neocons.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Dennis, I can't recall ever having attacked you on any issue. I apologize for that oversight and lack of respect for the sacred traditions of this
forum. I hope this makes amends...
"ya'll" is a contraction of "ya" and what? The simple and entirely grammatically correct contraction of "you" and "all" is spelled "y'all". Only an
ignorant yankee would be guilty of such gross misplacement of the apostrophe.
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Ok...Thanks Oso. I hate feeling ignored and left out.
I don't actually go around saying, "Ya'll" or anything like that but, somebody new and at once short-lived here was saying that the other day and it
just caught me like a catch-phrase that deserved too be run into the ground. It is as you say, an ignorant Yankee thing to do but, we all have
birthmarks and have to play with the hand we are dealt. No offense taken so, attack away. I'm sure you owe me a few.
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Woooosh
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You guys with the y'alls and all crack me up.  
What I want to know is the proper pronunciation of New Orleans.
[Edited on 1-18-2009 by Woooosh]
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Always said Nawlins.
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Jesse
Great post. I wonder if the turf wars have subsided sufficiently for this sort of violence to stop? Has one group risen to the top of the heap? With
whom is the Government negotiating? My Spanish is insufficient for this article but I am very interested in the concept that you report to us.
A truce might serve the interests of all involved and ultimately may be the solution. Drugs were tolerated in Mexico for a very long time with a tacit
agreement that as long as they played it cool the government would not hasstle them to any significant extent. Everyone got a cut. In this way the
drug trade was simply another underground economy in which profits passed along the chain of production to ultimate sale.
It is my opinion that Fox and Calderone, both educated in the US, took the cool aid of the "War on Drugs" that they saw in the USofA. It seems like
both Fox and Calderone were both somewhat naive as to the depth of corruption in Mexico. That seems odd to me since it was clear to me forty years ago
that the entire system was based upon barter and the mordida.
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Not so sure about Fox, but I've always thought that Calderone naively swatted a hornet's nest with a baseball bat. What could he have expected. All
the billions spent on the so-called war on drugs. Result: Basically same availability: same price. The United States has the highest illicit drug
consumption rate on the planet. Hey. We got economic problems. Big deficit. How 'bout legalizing and taxing it? Studies in Europe show that
decriminalizing or legalizing does not lead to an increase in consumption. That's because humans have a basically fixed rate of addictive
personalities.
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Now stop making sense...
 
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Promise I' ll try.
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It seems that although there are some stories of an "agreement" between the cartels, it may not be in existence in Tijuana. That is, if the Sinaloa
Cartel's sending of around half a million cartridges to the breakaway branch of the Arellano Felix cartel is anything to go by.
As always, if you want to know what is really happening in the Tijuana underworld, Zeta is the place to go to,
http://www.zetatijuana.com/html/EdicionActual/Principal.html
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Dennis, I can't recall ever having attacked you on any issue. I apologize for that oversight and lack of respect for the sacred traditions of this
forum. I hope this makes amends...
"ya'll" is a contraction of "ya" and what? The simple and entirely grammatically correct contraction of "you" and "all" is spelled "y'all". Only an
ignorant yankee would be guilty of such gross misplacement of the apostrophe.
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Ok...Thanks Oso. I hate feeling ignored and left out.
I don't actually go around saying, "Ya'll" or anything like that but, somebody new and at once short-lived here was saying that the other day and it
just caught me like a catch-phrase that deserved too be run into the ground. It is as you say, an ignorant Yankee thing to do but, we all have
birthmarks and have to play with the hand we are dealt. No offense taken so, attack away. I'm sure you owe me a few. |
You just had to go and spoil the mood by being a good sport, didn't you?
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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So is it true? Anyone seen bad guys "hanging" out around the overpasses or any loose heads in trash bags lately?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
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Naw, and I was even looking for some to step over yesterday. As hard as I looked, I couldn't find a single one. If they keep this up they are going to
ruin the narco-tourist business!!!
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Quote: | Originally posted by mikeintj
It seems that although there are some stories of an "agreement" between the cartels, it may not be in existence in Tijuana. That is, if the Sinaloa
Cartel's sending of around half a million cartridges to the breakaway branch of the Arellano Felix cartel is anything to go by.
As always, if you want to know what is really happening in the Tijuana underworld, Zeta is the place to go to,
http://www.zetatijuana.com/html/EdicionActual/Principal.html |
thanks for the link, according to todays front page (19 Jan 09) nothing has changed.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
You just had to go and spoil the mood by being a good sport, didn't you? |
It's the new me, otra vez.
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Quote: | Originally posted by mikeintj
It seems that although there are some stories of an "agreement" between the cartels, it may not be in existence in Tijuana. That is, if the Sinaloa
Cartel's sending of around half a million cartridges to the breakaway branch of the Arellano Felix cartel is anything to go by.
As always, if you want to know what is really happening in the Tijuana underworld, Zeta is the place to go to,
http://www.zetatijuana.com/html/EdicionActual/Principal.html |
thanks for the link, according to todays front page (19 Jan 09) nothing has changed. |
Interesting story... What was 500,000 for mr Three LEtres- a week supply? All calibers too. It also notes that kidnappings and extortions (TEO's
bread and butter) are not part of the deal- and still continue unababted.
It is weird they found a million in US cash that neither the good guys or the bad guys will claim as theirs. And no, you don't want to go there and
say it's your money and still expect to spend it.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
You just had to go and spoil the mood by being a good sport, didn't you? |
It's the new me, otra vez. |
You must have stuck that post-em note on your monitor with crazy glue for it to last all this time...
 
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Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
You must have stuck that post-em note on your monitor with crazy glue for it to last all this time...
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I stenciled and spray painted. It was a condition of my parole.
Thanks for remembering, Ron.
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Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
The buzz is that the war is over, no more nasty executions in public, decapitations, etc. Apparently the two factions where given an ultimatum by the
federal goverment, stop, or military death squads will be unleashed to clean out both sides for good. Members of organized crime have been given
orders to stop gruesome killings, and warned by their bosses that those that do not respect orders, will be severely punished.
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Thanks JESSE for info. Can you or somebody provide a resource or two about such "military death squads" so I can pass it on ? While I wouldn't be
surprised of their existence, finding these reports in the mainstream media seems elusive to me. My thoroughness is probably lacking.
Also, which two cartels were you referring to ?
The cartels I've heard of are the Sinaloa, Tijuana, and the Juarez (or Gulf ?).
Someone care to straight this out for me ?
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I haven't heard of any recent killings.
Things must be calming down with regard to public killings among these Narcos.
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