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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 05:16 PM


If I could not drive on the beach in Baja, about 90% of the places I have always camped I could not get too.

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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 05:26 PM


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I have a casa north of San Felipe near Pete's Camp and I havent seen any signs, yet. Is this mainly near town where the signs are going up?


I still hope there are still remote places where you can play with your power toys. A crowed downtown city beach isn't it though. My comments were solely about downtown Rosarito Beach in the tourist zone.




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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 05:28 PM


Barry, the beaches that I bet you camp on (with no other access) have no other people on it either... ?

I think the message and anger is at the inconsiderate who zip up and down the beach infront of or among other people. Laws that are for safety of others is well in order... Too bad common sense is so lacking about driving on Rosarito's beach or other populated beaches... that a 'law' is even needed.




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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 05:49 PM


Still scratching my head over Vandenberg's comment....
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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 05:53 PM


I think he forgot the 'don't' ?? Or the 'do'???



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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 06:12 PM


I have not been to San Felipe in about four years, but going back about 40 years, I have seen many signs about no motorized vehicle allowed on the beach. But the signs were ignored by ATV's and 4X4's.
As a matter of fact, there are several 4X4's that sell COCO LOCOS, MARGARITAS, and other alcoholic concoctions from the back of their vehicles.
I couldn't wait for them to show up. If not, a trip to Ruben's camp was in order.




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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 06:18 PM
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I'm a little surprised to find myself mentioned by Denise in this thread, BUT to make things perfectly clear, I really don't give a crap one way or the other as long as my driving on the beach (in my Samurais) isn't impacted. Certainly, nobody need worry about being shot. Denise must have been going through the monthly curse and was a little cranky.

Just after seeing all of those signs posted, I happened to be on the beach sitting in one of my Suzukis, smoking a cigar and reading a book while my wife was playing with the dogs. Looked up to see the Army coming my way on patrol. As they drove by, I waved, they waved back and went on their way.

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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 06:24 PM
Surprising findings about riding ATVs on the beach.


Apparently, by virtue of having four tires each with a big footprint, ATVs are not as harmful to beach life than had been previously thought. By the weight of the ATV and rider being evenly distributed among four, big footprint tires, the impaction of the sand is minimized thus lowering damage done to sea turtle eggs and other subterranean life such as sand crabs. Astonishingly, it is when a person puts his or her weight down on one foot while walking on the beach that much damage is done. Therefore, if a person wishes to wade in the sea, he or she should either limit their range to rocky areas, or drive the ATV on the sand to the waterline, lower themselves on an inflatable mattress or raft placed in the water, then paddle out to where they will cause no harm because they will not be pushing the balls of their feet into the sand such as what occurs while walking.

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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 06:35 PM


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Apparently, by virtue of having four tires each with a big footprint, ATVs are not as harmful to beach life than had been previously thought. By the weight of the ATV and rider being evenly distributed among four, big footprint tires, the impaction of the sand is minimized thus lowering damage done to sea turtle eggs and other subterranean life such as sand crabs. Astonishingly, it is when a person puts his or her weight down on one foot while walking on the beach that much damage is done. Therefore, if a person wishes to wade in the sea, he or she should either limit their range to rocky areas, or drive the ATV on the sand to the waterline, lower themselves on an inflatable mattress or raft placed in the water, then paddle out to where they will cause no harm because they will not be pushing the balls of their feet into the sand such as what occurs while walking.

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The problem is fat people walking or riding ATVs :lol::lol::lol:
Us skinny people can do what we want without hurting nature's creatures.
Also, us skinny people are less inclined to illegally gobble up the turtles and clams :lol::lol: And we have a smaller carbon footprint :lol:

Seriously, nothing spoils a nice walk more than an ATV or motorcycle. Nothing spoils a nice quiet day on the beach more than a jet ski.

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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 06:46 PM


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Apparently, by virtue of having four tires each with a big footprint, ATVs are not as harmful to beach life than had been previously thought. By the weight of the ATV and rider being evenly distributed among four, big footprint tires, the impaction of the sand is minimized thus lowering damage done to sea turtle eggs and other subterranean life such as sand crabs. Astonishingly, it is when a person puts his or her weight down on one foot while walking on the beach that much damage is done. Therefore, if a person wishes to wade in the sea, he or she should either limit their range to rocky areas, or drive the ATV on the sand to the waterline, lower themselves on an inflatable mattress or raft placed in the water, then paddle out to where they will cause no harm because they will not be pushing the balls of their feet into the sand such as what occurs while walking.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=28443#pid2802...


The problem is fat people walking or riding ATVs :lol::lol::lol:
Us skinny people can do what we want without hurting nature's creatures.
Also, us skinny people are less inclined to illegally gobble up the turtles and clams :lol::lol: And we have a smaller carbon footprint :lol:

Seriously, nothing spoils a nice walk more than an ATV or motorcycle. Nothing spoils a nice quiet day on the beach more than a jet ski.

Peace out!


Whew! I thought you were gonna say"Nothing spoils a nice quiet day on the beach more than a fat broad in a bikini:lol:.




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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 06:47 PM


And nothing would spoil my ATV fishing trip more than someone attacking me with a dog leash or hand full of sand......didn't we all learn in kindergarten that it's not okay to hit?....dt
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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 07:05 PM


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With a few exceptions, it's illegal to drive a vehicle in the federal zone (Beaches). It's just not enforced everywhere. As areas become more populated it seems the enforcement increases.

It is possible for the fishermen to get a concession to launch their boats legally.


I believe that it is part of the license given to the Panga Associations .

Here iin Todos Santos they seldom have to drive onto the beach as the pangas stay there overnight. And there is convienent parking.

These brave men are in one of the two associations here.

This is a landing on a calm day. It can be quite dangerous with more of a swell.







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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 07:08 PM


I guess I don't see the problem. A sign, obey the sign. Do others obey the sign? Obey the sign. What part of the sign did you not understand?
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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 07:22 PM


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I guess I don't see the problem. A sign, obey the sign. Do others obey the sign? Obey the sign. What part of the sign did you not understand?


They refuse to read the sign ...

There are those who left the states because they could not tolerate civilized society ....

They don't take responsibility for their animals ....

They don't pick up dog doo-doo ...

They smoke cigars in restaurants .

I sometimes think that all the smokers that left California just came south ....

So, they come south and act like burros ...

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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 08:02 PM


They don't always "go south". I remember a Southern California family that sold out, and moved to Douglas County Oregon. Bought a large lot with big home on the river, and proceeded to buy their two boys, trail bikes. They learned to ride them ON THEIR LOT, right in the middle of a subdivision. Day light to dark, for years!!!!!!!!!!We could hear them, and we were "up the river" about half a mile. So much for peace & quiet on the river.!!!!!!!!!When neighbors complained, he had a very bad "attitude" about it. My brothers home was two lots west of this property.

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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 08:39 PM


I'm just wondering is shell beach really off limits to vehicles, or is it exempt to certain Nomads:fire::fire::fire:



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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 09:27 PM


We have new signs on all Loreto area beaches. "Protected Zone." No driving, no throwing trash. They have police patrols driving it but they haven't stopped the people I've seen driving by them.

A couple of days ago we were walking a beach with our dog. An official-looking pompous ass came out from the site where a mega-developer is tearing up the place with heavy equipment, big cranes, etc, and tells us he's called the authorities on us for having a dog in the protected zone, and we had to leave immediately.

Yep, that's the new Baja, can't walk your dog in the federal zone but you can build a 3000 unit development next to it. :rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 09:31 PM


HUMMMMM,

Sign,sign everywhere a sign ,cloggin up the scenery breaken my mind,Do this don't do that CAN'T YOU READ THE SIGN:!::!::!::biggrin::biggrin:

I was told a long time ago in San Flippy that it was illeagle to ride on the beach in town only!!! I was told it was OK to ride on the beach out of town.

We take our Jeep on the beach all the time, but it has very big tires on it . We are always respectfull of people on the beach and do not drive fast around them or close to them,That is just common courtesy.Being able to drive down the beach with a icechest full of cervasas and some snacks is one of the things we enjoy most about Baja.
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[*] posted on 1-26-2009 at 10:05 PM


some birds lay their eggs right on the sand at isolated beaches. the eggs look like small rocks. looks like the chicks look like a shell or rock as well. did this one survive the vehicles on the beach?


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HUMMMMM,

Sign,sign everywhere a sign ,cloggin up the scenery breaken my mind,Do this don't do that CAN'T YOU READ THE SIGN:!::!::!::biggrin::biggrin:

I was told a long time ago in San Flippy that it was illeagle to ride on the beach in town only!!! I was told it was OK to ride on the beach out of town.

We take our Jeep on the beach all the time, but it has very big tires on it . We are always respectfull of people on the beach and do not drive fast around them or close to them,That is just common courtesy.Being able to drive down the beach with a icechest full of cervasas and some snacks is one of the things we enjoy most about Baja.


...and You ain't supposed to be hereeee... sign says you gotta have a membership card to get inside.

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