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longlegsinlapaz
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
I'm not sure which ranks highest on my abhorrence list....snakes or guns!
[Edited on 3-5-2009 by longlegsinlapaz] |
Legs------The difference between "guns" and "rattlers" is that rattlers act on their own, and are unpredictable----------"guns" don't act on their
own, and are very predictable.
Personally, I trust "guns" more than "rattlers". 
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Barry, I can't argue with your logic, but I really couldn't vouch for the predictability of a gun in
my hands!!
Ed, ignore those guys!!! I can relate....I killed one enormous vibora with a shuffle too....I stood shuffling on a planter 3' above it & used a
shovel to behead it!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
You should get your dogs anti-venom vaccinations/boosters as soon as possible. Additionally, you should see if you can enroll your dog in a
rattlesnake avoidance training class.
I know they have the classes stateside, not sure about Baja. Check with your local vet, gun or hunting club for info. |
This is the rattlesnake advoidance trainer we used--good people,
Patrick Callahan
For the anti-venom shots, our dogs first had a series of three shots and then a booster every six month----as our vet says, not always a perfect
solution, but it helps and buys time.
BTW---we have our dogs vacinated in El Centro when we are there---it is A LOT cheaper than in San Diego.
Oh, we need to take our dogs back for another training session---they advise doing it at least twice.
Diane
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estebanis
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That is too wierd I am heading up to See Tracy Saturday. She is a good friend and I take care of her website. http://www.highonkennels.us Follow the link to her Rattlesnake website page. Be sure to watch the video of Dogs being trained to avoid the snakes.
You can get the Rattlesnake Vaccine at the Vaccination Clinics run by Petco for a good price. Around $30.00 or so. This will not keep you from having
to get the dog to a vet but depending on many factors it will hopfully buy you time. I also keep injectible Benadryl to attempt to keep swelling down
and the airway open...
Esteban
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HCR
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My Brittany was bitten on the leg saturday. Because she had received the vaccine, the effects were not as bad as they might have been. Bandage off
today, she's still on antibiotics and inflamation reducing pills.
Without the vaccine, effects would have been much worse, or so the vet thinks.
Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without.
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fishingmako
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I have been to Tracy also, I need to take my Dog back for a annual follow up, she will only do it if she has enough people attending, on Sat
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | | I stood shuffling on a planter 3' above it & used a shovel to behead it! |
Just a minor detail. Used my steelnosed workboots for the deed.
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estebanis
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishingmako
I have been to Tracy also, I need to take my Dog back for a annual follow up, she will only do it if she has enough people attending, on Sat
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Just start with an E-mail to her. She is in the process of scheduling her sessions now. That is one of the reasons I am going up to get the schedule
for her website. That and do some training on my German Small Munsterlander Pointer Versitile Hunting Lap Dog...
Esteban
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ELINVESTIG8R
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When do the rattlers come out of hibernation in Baja?
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
When do the rattlers come out of hibernation in Baja? |
Same time as the grizzlies.
The shuffle doesn't work on them, steeltoed or not.
[Edited on 3-6-2009 by vandenberg]
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Barry A.
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There are some that advocate the reintroduction of Grizz in California----------simply nuts, if you ask me.
I was the bear management officer in Glacier Natl. Park for one year (then I had a nervous breakdown )----------those critters are BAD NEWS!
Barry
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
There are some that advocate the reintroduction of Grizz in California----------simply nuts, if you ask me.
I was the bear management officer in Glacier Natl. Park for one year (then I had a nervous breakdown )----------those critters are BAD NEWS!
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I went on a pack ride in Glacier Nat'l, and our guide said if you see a grizzly and you're on foot, don't bother running, it'll catch you. I stayed
on my horse pretty much the whole time except to go to the bathroom, with one notable exception: Our guide Gordon said we had to experience a little
side hike into an abandoned mine up near one of the glacial lakes. As I followed him in with several of my buddies behind me, he lit our way with a
Bic lighter, which he held down low as we walked, like he was looking for something on the ground. I asked a question:
"Hey Gordo, whatcha lookin for?"
"They said there'd be candles in here."
"They said? Does that mean you've never been in here before?"
"Yep."
"Ah. One more question: Is it possible there could be a grizzly holed up in here?"
"Sure, it's possible, I guess."
Whereupon I did a 180, yelled at my buddies to GTFO, and sprinted for the entrance. Gordon found this highly amusing, but keep in mind this was a guy
whose favorite pastime was getting drunk and shooting antelope with an AR 15 assault rifle from the back of a jeep going about sixty miles per hour
through high grass and trees. Not a very highly developed self-preservation instinct going on there.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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Bronco
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ADD
The subject I started was a warning for folks who love their pets. And rattlesnakes that are now coming out of hibernation. with a little luck Dano
and his pal will get bit on the ass.
Why do clowns have trouble staying on track.
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Skipjack Joe
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Because they've run out of things to say on the subject.
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bronco
The subject I started was a warning for folks who love their pets. And rattlesnakes that are now coming out of hibernation. with a little luck Dano
and his pal will get bit on the burro.
Why do clowns have trouble staying on track. |
Me-ow! For the record, I didn't start the thread hijack. In any event, calling me a clown gives all clowns a bad name.
Back on topic, I do agree (and I tell my kids) that rule number one is don't put your hands or feet where you can't see them. Another good one is
stick to well defined trails rather than blazing new ones through brush or grass.
Now, where are my big floppy shoes, red rubber nose and tiny little car? Honk!
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bronco
The subject I started was a warning for folks who love their pets. And rattlesnakes that are now coming out of hibernation. with a little luck Dano
and his pal will get bit on the burro.
Why do clowns have trouble staying on track. |
Bronco, this happens a lot on message boards and you should be happy because it keeps YOUR post alive and at the top of 'Today's Posts' and on top of
the forum it is in... So, all new Nomads or those that didn't see your initial warning will see it...
If nobody is reading the thread and participates with replies... then it will slide on down the line, and out of sight.
Thanks for your warning about the snakes... I have always seen them in April... so, this is a bit early!
On one trip (April '03) we saw three!!!
Mision Santa Maria:
Montevideo:
Las Flores, south of:
(by this point, Sarah was getting pretty comfortable around them!)
[Edited on 3-7-2009 by David K]
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Great piece on the dog training video. The way to outrun a grizzly bear is to make sure there is someone else between you.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bronco
The subject I started was a warning for folks who love their pets. And rattlesnakes that are now coming out of hibernation. with a little luck Dano
and his pal will get bit on the burro.
Why do clowns have trouble staying on track. |
Bronco------I apologize---------I thought you were warning folks about dangerous critters in the spring time. Not being a pet owner I did not
associate your post specifically with "pets". I personally would much rather deal with a rattler than a grizz, and have many times dealt with both,
and I was just pointing that out.
Again, I apologize if I caused the thread to drift off of your intended topic.
Barry
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bearbait1
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Back when I lived in the lesser 48 I trained all of my dogs to avoid snakes and it worked well. The good thing about rattlers is they are good to
eat, fun to hunt and their hides can be sold.
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