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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 12:50 PM
No more free camping


I was on the phone to friends in ligui yesterday and was told that you must now pay 20 dollars a day to camp on ligui beach . I asked if there were any campers still on the beach and was told that they all have left .

Has any one heard of this happening else where ? :fire:
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 01:03 PM


They all arose from their beach chairs at once with a glazed look in their eyes and got into a U-Haul van last seen rolling north.....or was that south.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 01:35 PM


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I was on the phone to friends in ligui yesterday and was told that you must now pay 20 dollars a day to camp on ligui beach . I asked if there were any campers still on the beach and was told that they all have left .

Has any one heard of this happening else where ? :fire:


where did this occur?
freeloaders are freeloaders and capitalists are captalists -- they will seesaw until finding their groove and ying, yang and shamalingadingdong :lol:

there is a nice tent city in sacramento that is accepting freeloaders, no fee, and has soupo kitchen
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 01:41 PM


Please,,,,,,,, we don't need anymore in Sacramento.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 01:44 PM


David probably has the coordinates and review for you
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 01:45 PM


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Please,,,,,,,, we don't need anymore in Sacramento.


You're in a good position to tell Arnold to get a brain transplant and develop a new mantra....."QUIT SPENDING."
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 02:04 PM


Probably trying to capitalize on and/or discourage the Easter Week crowd from Constitution, rather than deny access (which they can't do). Shame on them.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 02:29 PM


Good old mexico , :P , wonder if villa group had any part of this ? Campers didn't spend much money while they there , but every little helped.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 03:15 PM


it has happened at Rattlesnake and Free (Playa Libre) Beaches circa Pto Escondido also. Municipality of Loreto is collecting regularly every 14 days for the past month or more. no services, just fee for camping. there was some initial scuffling with Fonatur, which originally ordered everyone off the beaches when they found out, but apparently they backed down. Loreto claims they have authority to do that. some campers have been told that they will be given a long stay break. nothing as yet on that. many people have left. will this be enforced Semana Santa? (am not holding my breath)



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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 05:03 PM


Good thing to scare off the campers , they'll head home early and spend less money in mexico. Great for locals .... guess they never learn. :?:
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 05:19 PM


It seems that some folks, whether in US of A or Mexico, expect free access to what they think is rightly theirs. Our National parks fees and trail fee systems have become a reality. Why put down land owners and others in Mexico from making some money off of their properties? Perhaps the fees will motivate the free-loaders to utilize the RV offerings of hard working Mexicans. Most of the small communities in Mexico have beach access for a fee-I am thinking of Cabo Pulmo specifically.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 05:31 PM


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It seems that some folks, whether in US of A or Mexico, expect free access to what they think is rightly theirs. Our National parks fees and trail fee systems have become a reality. Why put down land owners and others in Mexico from making some money off of their properties? Perhaps the fees will motivate the free-loaders to utilize the RV offerings of hard working Mexicans. Most of the small communities in Mexico have beach access for a fee-I am thinking of Cabo Pulmo specifically.



Good points. Remember the ol' saying.. "they're ain't no free lunch,"..and, they're ain't. Are these campers needy? Are they without means to legitimize themselves in Mexico?
I'm embarrased for my own if these people are imported indigents.
What's up here?
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 05:36 PM


No one has a problem with paying a reasonable fee when they know that is expected . But when you are camped on a public beach where you have been coming for years , while you are helping out the locals with spending some money in their area , and someone unexpectedly comes looking for 20 dollars a night .

Know thanks , .... it will more likely be put in their pockets and they don't own the beach . If i camped on private land , you pay.

And what in the h..l is wrong with a free camping spot , they seem to be able to drain my wallet before i get home. If you want to camp in a RV park in town do so , some of us like the beach .
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 05:57 PM


Don Alley posting on Paula's account:

A neighbor who works for the municipio of Loreto told us a couple of weeks ago that the municipio will charge this fee to beach campers in the municipio. Ligui, Rattlesnake, Juncalito, etc. So I think it may be the city that's collecting the fees.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 06:00 PM


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No one has a problem with paying a reasonable fee when they know that is expected . But when you are camped on a public beach where you have been coming for years , while you are helping out the locals with spending some money in their area , and someone unexpectedly comes looking for 20 dollars a night .

Know thanks , .... it will more likely be put in their pockets and they don't own the beach . If i camped on private land , you pay.

And what in the h..l is wrong with a free camping spot , they seem to be able to drain my wallet before i get home. If you want to camp in a RV park in town do so , some of us like the beach .


Imperialist gringos want most everything for free, and if asked to pay for it, dang yankees are only willing to pay mexican peasant wages, desiring to keep the yoke of represssion on the backs of mexican labor, desiring to live in bourgeouis comfort built on the backs of the proletariat.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 06:10 PM


How many nomads have camped in mexico , did you all pay the yoke repression ?
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 06:12 PM


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Imperialist gringos want most everything for free, and if asked to pay for it, dang yankees are only willing to pay mexican peasant wages, desiring to keep the yoke of represssion on the backs of mexican labor, desiring to live in bourgeouis comfort built on the backs of the proletariat.


Thank you, Carlos Marquez.
You do have a valid point. Mine is that the days of free anything on the coastline are long gone. Looking for that secluded spot to enjoy your private life is over in Baja. Somebody controls everything. In the old days, nobody claimed ownership of land....it was worthless to even the legal owner. Today, it's priceless and if one wants to camp out on it, it'll cost something. This isn't the wilderness anymore.
The best part of Baja these days is your memories. Some people even try to sell those. Are they wrong?
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 06:41 PM


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Imperialist gringos want most everything for free, and if asked to pay for it, dang yankees are only willing to pay mexican peasant wages, desiring to keep the yoke of represssion on the backs of mexican labor, desiring to live in bourgeouis comfort built on the backs of the proletariat.


Thank you, Carlos Marquez.
You do have a valid point. Mine is that the days of free anything on the coastline are long gone. Looking for that secluded spot to enjoy your private life is over in Baja. Somebody controls everything. In the old days, nobody claimed ownership of land....it was worthless to even the legal owner. Today, it's priceless and if one wants to camp out on it, it'll cost something. This isn't the wilderness anymore.
The best part of Baja these days is your memories. Some people even try to sell those. Are they wrong?


well, much of my message was in jest, but the serious part is that some gringos are mistakenly self-righteous when they insist all should be free or pennies in Mexico.
dk's dirt island is still free camping!!

anywho, when I pay US $20/nite for camping, i do expect trash service and water availability
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 06:47 PM


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anywho, when I pay US $20/nite for camping, i do expect trash service


Giving or getting?:lol::lol::lol: Just kiddin', goat. I appreciate your take on this.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2009 at 06:47 PM


That's funny, Dennis!



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