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LaTijereta
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Loreto Bay Update
We just got some updated information on what is going on "South of Loreto"...One encouraging thing is the new fight with Alaska airlines if it
happens
From their PR release...
Federal, State and Municipal building permits and land use permits have been issued and our first sales of lots has completed so building has begun
for our first phase!
The British Columbia Full Prospectus and the Arizona Public Report have been approved and issued. This is great news as it means now that all buyers
may enter into an agreement to purchase homes at Loreto Bay. Copies of the full prospectus and public report are available for review.
Great news an agreement with Alaska Airlines will service Loreto International Airport twice a week direct non-stop from Los Angeles (LAX), commencing
Thursday February 13, 2005. Alaska Airlines will also promote Loreto Bay as part of their vacation packages this winter and their in-flight magazine
will feature articles about this exciting new destination for Alaska Airlines.
The Master Plan also includes two golf courses. We are pleased to announce that Troon Golf has been retained to manage golf course operations at The
Villages of Loreto Bay. The existing golf course will be redesigned by PGA Tour professional David Duval and his partner Tom Weber through their new
company, Duval Design.
The Beach Club Architectural design team of Hill Glazier Architects, Palo Alto California is completing the design of what will undoubtedly be a
world-class facility. The firm specializes in the design of hotels, resorts, golf clubhouses and spas. This firm is extremely prestigious in the
California market: they have received numerous awards and acclaim from national and international publications. In addition, they possess strong
experience in traditional Mexican architecture through their work with Javier Garay of Tauega in Mexico City.
Allen+Philp Architects, Scottsdale, Arizona have been retained to design the first spa at The Villages of Loreto Bay. This Scottsdale firm,
established in 1976, possesses extensive background in the design and programming of resorts and spas. Their work may be found in Spain, Mexico and
the United States.
We continue to grow as a company. Over the summer The Loreto Bay Company have added numerous administrative staff, and a ten new sales associates. The
San Diego, CA; Scottsdale, AZ; Mexico City, MX; Victoria, BC and Loreto, BCS Sales offices are now fully operational.
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elizabeth
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They need TWO golf courses???? Isn't the fertilizer and herbicide runoff bad enough from one...
It doesn't mention where the water will come from to keep all that grass green.
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Skeet/Loreto
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"Where is the Water?"
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capn.sharky
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Great News?
Really, what is so great about it? I think it is awful news. Tijereta, you have a nice home in Loreto. You have been going there a long time....why
do you think this is great news? Maybe you know something I don't. I would like your views. It is possible I have not thought of something positive
in this project. Please share with us.
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Don Alley
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Don Alley
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oops!
Well, I guess the Alaska Air route is good news for me, depending on scheduling.
But I'd rather walk, if it meant Loreto Bay would go away.
Reminds me of the Flathead in Montana. After over 30 years here, the sprawl and traffic are just too much.
I need a time machine.
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capt. mike
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YOU KNOW THE GOLF WILL BE PHASED!
Come on...there will not be 2 courses until enough peoples will be there to justify it!
so relax everybody...this will happen slowly at best. But, be reminded there are some real heavyweights involved...this deal is very secure.
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LaTijereta
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Don't shoot the messenger
I thought the info on the Alaska flights was good news, not to mention additional people being able to work at the airport
Who knows how long Aerocal will be around going into next year?
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Skeet/Loreto
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Now Listen Up!
Fellow Posters, there is nothin you or I can do to stop the progress of Loreto Bay villages. It is happening, it is a matter of Time!. us old hands
had some of the Best Part of Loreto, the Bitteroot, The Madison, The Big Hole. Let them have it in their Generation, They will Learn,They will get
ripped off, They will never know the difference!!
Money is Their God!
Communication is Their need!
Most could not "Hit a Bull in the Ass with a Base Fiddle".
Sharkey: Beauty is in the eyes of the Beholder" can you imagine one of those new Residents having the Ability to learn to know some of the locals?
How Sad!
Skeet/Loreto
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capn.sharky
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Skeet is right
But, it is just so sad. A wonderful lady, now in her 80's, named Ann O'Neil wrote the history of Loreto. I guess the least I can do is hang around
to write the obituary. Tijereta, I wasn't trying to shoot anybody---just wanted to find our what was the good new. I suspected the new airline was
it. From what I understand, Aerocalifornia has been given the word by LAX that if they don't start bringing in newer planes as the current fleet (now
about 35 years old) is not up to FAA safety standards. Is there anyplace like Loreto left in Baja? Preferably on the Sea of Cortez. Quiet with such
nice Mexican families. Not much crime and still Mexican? My e-mail is listed as capn.sharky@verizon.net and I would love a recommendation. What a
bummer, man.
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David K
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Bahia de los Angeles... Maybe next in line... but not without water, cheap water.
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wilderone
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Talk, talk, talk. Personally, I think they're getting desparate. They're saying all the right things to appease all the concerns. ok - so they've
got some transportation lined up. However, it is a certainly that if the airline cannot make a profit on that route, they will not continue service.
Environmental concerns? Well, they seemed to think they have their bases covered by announcing that they have a memorandum of understanding with
OceanAlliance and a promise (talk) to create a marine laboratory. I contacted Ocean Alliance to corraborate this bit of news, and their response was
"While
on site we did talk about a marine research centre, but currently I do not
see a Marine Research Centre in the short term plans for the facility - I
believe that this component is now on hold." Apparently the developers spent a lot of money flying people to the site to try to impress them with
their talk, as a means to be able to greenwash their plans with their ostensible collaboration with some respectable enviro organization. The fact
remains that they're going to destroy the area.
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jrbaja
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No matter how "heavy"
of a weight" they think they are, they don't know didly about Baja. They are in it purely for the $$, same as all developers and the difference here
is, este es Baja!!
People will get ripped off. Then they will whine that they got ripped off. Then the truth will come out and Loreto Bay will look just like Punta
Banda and Puerto Escondido. 
At least, if there is a god that will happen. What do you think Skeet?
People still vote for the u.s.presidents knowing full well they are lieing. Guess the same goes for developers. Or else the buyers are just dumber
n rocks in spite of their $$
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wilderone
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Question: "Is there anyplace like Loreto left in Baja?"
Answer: NO. That's the whole point.
Shame on FONATUR.
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jk
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Again, where is the water coming from? JK
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Skeet/Loreto
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Gentlemen and Posters!
Tio Don O'Neil and I were Partners in the Land North of La Pinta. Virginia and I built "Rancho sonrisa" on our Half.
I was sitting on Tio's Porch when Ann walked by and waved at Tio, resulting in a realationship and Marriage and the Book about Loreto.
Virginia and i watched as the "New Presidente was built and the Developer started bring in the Canadians from Detroit 2 times a Week, it lasted about
6 months. It was never Full except when George Bush came down for a Visit and Ford Motor Co. put on a weekend conference/Show.
There is no place Like Loreto!! Just as there is no other Place like the Sea of Cortez.
JR , our Culture at this time is constructed on "Love for Money", many of the young have been developed into "Followers" with out the Ability to think
outside of their own small World. The few that have the Ability to lead others will use that Ability to make money without regard for the outcome.
San Nicholas has good water and Location but is Ejido property. It will stay small for awhile because of the road.
Our World has changed my friends.
Skeet/Loreto
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David K
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Ann O'Neil
Here is Ann and copies of her book, at my Viva Baja 3 party.
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capn.sharky
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Sweetest of Ladies
She is the best and the sweetest little lady I have met in many a year. I can thank Graham MacIntosh for helping me meet her. She dispelled many a
myth I learned over the 30 plus years I have been in and out of Loreto. I just can't say enough good things about her. If she was single and I was
about 15 years older.....well you know. Love at first sight. Oh, I guess I would have to be single too. Couldn't do that as mine is the other
sweetest one. Okay, okay, so the sharkman has a heart after all. Just don't like them Canadians (and frenchy's).
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capt. mike
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a good article about it in today's
Phx Az. Republic. i don't know how to lionk the article off the web (help Mateo!)
do any of you nay sayers know that the plan calls for dedicating 5000 out of the total 8000 AC TO PRESERVE open space?
Would you rather have it done under some other scheme not considering the environmental impact?
ok Wilderone and JR.....i am ready for major slammage!   :moon:
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Steve in Oro Valley
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One noticeable thing:
Doug Mackaroff, a canadian, was a planner of the Civano project (Tucson) (a model for sustainable urban planning, work where you live, solar energy,
native landscaping, water conservation, etc. ).
If he stays involved, this could be a really different kind of development.
No high rise condos, they say in their initial promotion, but rather "romantic villages". One question: Do we really need 2 golf courses??
I am interested.
Steve in Oro Valley
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