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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 08:20 AM
Gringos and their big four wheelers


Yes, there are places where you need a four wheel drive. But, I seem to notice the Mexicans going to the same places in their trucks without 4 wheel and cars. Ever notice some of those so-called four wheel drive vehicles are driving on roads made by the mexicans in their cars? Remember the old trader trucks that serviced Baja and were not four wheelers. Jeeps are great for going places where no one else has been---but for the most part, you can get there in your family sedan.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 09:44 AM


Our ford focus took us alot of places that people said only a 4 x 4 could go! IT's all about the driving!



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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 09:56 AM


I love it when I'm in the middle of nowhere on my dirtbike and I come across a family of five in an old Japanese sedan doing the same section I am.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 09:59 AM


Think you will find "most" jacked up trucks are for impressing friends around town....
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 10:03 AM


Ditto that Jim. Around SoCal, most of them never leave the pavement.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 10:03 AM


Got stuck with a CJ6 landcruiser just north of Mag Bay, where the French build their experimental wind farm?. Took an hour to dig out, while the tanks ( Chevvies, Fords, Buicks, etc,) didn't seem to have any trouble.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 01:48 PM


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Originally posted by surfer jim
Think you will find "most" jacked up trucks are for impressing friends around town....


...as if to say "Hey! Look at me! Look at this truck! I'm bad@$$! Me, truck...My c-ck looks huge!"
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 02:03 PM


My husband used to tell 4X4 meant - 4 feet further-4 feet deeper.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 03:45 PM


I have always heard that big trucks are to make up for people that were not endowed in "other areas"
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 04:14 PM


4WD is superior to 2WD in climbing steep grades:
4WD saves the dirt roads from excess wear on grades where 2WD vehicles will spin tires creating ruts. Also, in order to get up some steep roads in a 2WD, you need momentum (speed), which will create damage to car parts... it is far less safe in a 2WD! In the days of the old road between Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay (1958-1986), there were many wrecked vehicles in the canyons below and crosses along the road... those were NOT 4WDs!

The other two conditions where 4WD will outperform 2WD is in deep sand and mud. A 2WD can get through sand when the tires are deflated to near flat.... A 2WD will bog down in mud where a 4WD will pull through with good mud tires, unless it is bottomless!

As for MOST roads in Baja... Yes, 2WD will pass... it would be better if the car had the ground clearance of 4WD to not damage the underside.




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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 04:24 PM


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4WD is superior to 2WD in climbing steep grades:
4WD saves the dirt roads from excess wear on grades where 2WD vehicles will spin tires creating ruts. Also, in order to get up some steep roads in a 2WD, you need momentum (speed), which will create damage to car parts... it is far less safe in a 2WD! In the days of the old road between Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay (1958-1986), there were many wrecked vehicles in the canyons below and crosses along the road... those were NOT 4WDs!

The other two conditions where 4WD will outperform 2WD is in deep sand and mud. A 2WD can get through sand when the tires are deflated to near flat.... A 2WD will bog down in mud where a 4WD will pull through with good mud tires, unless it is bottomless!

As for MOST roads in Baja... Yes, 2WD will pass... it would be better if the car had the ground clearance of 4WD to not damage the underside.


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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 05:02 PM


Since I'm and old time Baja guy and just old, I remember when a '56 Buick was all you needed. 4x4 is pretty much not needed 95% of the time, the other 5% you can't do without it.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 05:25 PM


and sometimes 2 wheel drive will get you 95% of the way to where you want to be, and then you turn around and go back, wishing you had 4 wheel drive. I had to carry deer a long ways a few times that I could have driven right up to in a jeep.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 06:14 PM


Hey as long as you're driving down a dirt road in BAJA who cares what you're driving.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 10:01 PM


I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. :yes:



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[*] posted on 3-24-2009 at 11:29 PM


Sheesh! We used to rent VW Beatles and do everything from dirt roads, to beaches.
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[*] posted on 3-25-2009 at 05:05 AM


I have pulled lots of 2wd's out of the sand on my 4wd.
Getting stuck in the sand on a 2wd, 120F and no cold beer is no bueno.... that's when you say... I should have ____ _ ____ truck. (fill the blanks)




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[*] posted on 3-25-2009 at 06:16 AM


Im trying to think of a reason someone needs to bash what others drive. Unless it's envy, why would you care?

[Edited on 3-25-2009 by MICK]




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[*] posted on 3-25-2009 at 06:42 AM


CaboRon.
Just curious. Have you ever met David K in person?>????????????
Personally I haven't. And I found nothing wrong with what David said, and actually, David doesn't 'bother' me. What's your problem???????? Help me understand your "position"??????
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[*] posted on 3-25-2009 at 07:20 AM


On the Pole Line Road in the desert outside of Mexicali - south of the Laguna Salada, you'd be foolish to bring a full-size lifted 4x4 pickup truck. I have the photos and video to prove it.

This route is purely a Jeep and Toyota 4x4 road. A family sedan wouldn't make it past Cohabuzo Junction.

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