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Sharksbaja
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A possible useful cop bargaining tool..... if you got the guts
It's worked for me. While being shaken down by some 2-bit town cop(s) I have submitted to them about their possible "world internet fame" and how I
and millions of others may know of them and their exploits and trickery.
I explain that they should get someone who understands computers and the internet to Google search their name and place of activity and they will see
they are world famous for their acts.
If necessary I next tell them that the current dialog we are having right now might be uploading to the internet via a satellite connection.
When I lift my center console and they see hundereds of wires and odd looking components they get a huge impression.
I play along, and if necessary I'll give them a look at my GoogleEarth GPS tracking system with map overlays and "realtime" positioning on my mounted
laptop and heads-up monitor. That will always impress them. Hell, it impresses me!
They have heard all about this kind of stuff but have no idea what or how all this electronic gear operates. It's almost like fooling a dog. Pretend
to throw something and they look and usually run that way.
Using Spanglish may add to the drama too. 
Remember who you are dealing with.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
When I lift my center console and they see hundereds of wires and odd looking components they get a huge impression.
I play along, and if necessary I'll give them a look at my GoogleEarth GPS tracking system with map overlays and "realtime" positioning on my mounted
laptop and heads-up monitor. That will always impress them. Hell, it impresses me!
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Hell, I'd like to see this package myself! Googleearth GPS on a tracking laptop???
Sounds like something I want to own. Could you post some photos and how the gadgetry works?
Thanks!!!!! 
Udo
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805gregg
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How about taking their picture, and posting it with their name and badge # on here? Maybe get a list going of bad cops and then going to their
superior?As if someone there would care, except maybe he's not getting his kick back.
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Sharksbaja
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Hey not a bad idea. How's about a dirty deeds or bad cop category.
Udo, I will do that. Maybe make a new post.
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Udo
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Just don't post it in "OFF TOPIC". I would never see it, thanks, Sharks!!
Udo
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
I explain that they should get someone who understands computers and the internet to Google search their name and place of activity and they will see
they are world famous for their acts.
Using Spanglish may add to the drama too.
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Your approach is foolish. i'm reminded of the many journalists in mexico who have been killed for publicizing stories about bad cops and criminals.
maybe you'll meet the wrong cop on a day he woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
Your approach is based on assumption that cops are fools or push overs for gringos. They are probably quite savvy about their world and risks in
their world. some cops are not nice people and maybe you would be better off to avoid testing those not nice people.
maybe the most important rule of traveling in outside of US and western europe: don't mess with the guys who wear uniforms and carry guns.
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Osprey
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Although I disagree with everything the goat says, Sharks, I think all of that is way too much work. If they don't stop their threatening posture
after the first kiss I just drive away.
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
maybe the most important rule of traveling in outside of US and western europe: don't mess with the guys who wear uniforms and carry guns.
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I'd also advise the same tactic in the USA.
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Udo
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Mtgoat: Shark's approach is no more foolish than the passenger's who scolded the cops by giving Baja a bad rap, or the mother who scolded the cop for
giving her son a record, or the people who rivet their lic. plates. I'm actually going to try a new one myself...if I should get pulled over, I'll
speak to the cop in one of my other favorite languages (German to start with) and pretend I don't understand what he is saying. I've heard the cops
usually give up on that pretense.
Udo
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Sharksbaja
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That's ok Mr Goat, each to their own. I sincerely think those type of cops don't have a clue. Ok, maybe one.
If you notice, I never said they actually were being tranmitted to the World.
I just brag slightly about being "hooked up" and use adjectives that may suggest they are. I was pretty proud of myself actually. They kept gawking
and by and by just let me go scott free.
Hey, I coulda pointed my dash mounted cam at them but homie isn't that brave!
I would like to know how many Americans actually end up in the hoosegow because of an ordinary mordida stop. I'll bet very few.
Udo, I once posted my setup but took it down right away for a few reasons. Now that Google GPS is a free service it's a moot issue. I found the text
part. I'll reassemble a post and get some pics.
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tjBill
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I would be worried that the police would say all that is illegal and then steal your computer. 
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Packoderm
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We need to somehow get photos of these cops. I would like to have a cop-cam installed on my vehicle and then record all the goings on. Then we can
publish the photos of the cops here on these forums. It would be nice to have a printed photo of the crooked cops and then show the crooked cop their
own photo with some text printed on it about their transgressions. This could be a part of a our own homespun Interpol action.
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redhilltown
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I certainly don't have all those toys, but I once forgot I had a two way radio in my glove compartment from a different trip. I realize we are talking
cops here, but at a military checkpoint Senor Jefe DID NOT LIKE the radio...other friends have told me because you can signal drug boats with
them...whatever. Just kind of wondering Sharks if you get the same reaction at the checkpoints when they see the gear?
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Sharksbaja
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No, actually they are always intrigued by it. Remember also, your attitude plays heavily with some enforcement guys. I don't flaunt it rather I try to
get them interested and sidetracked to avoid a shakedown. Hinting that I'm connected to satellites and showing them how it operates gets their
interest.
This won't work for most folks simply because they don't harbor all these goodies but distraction seems to work if it powerful enough. It's the
notion that they themselves"might" be a part of the internet eyes-in-the-skies that piques their curiosity.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
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JESSE
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This shouldnt be done.
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dianaji
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boy, was i lucky! last week, someone honked at me cause i was kinda lost and i yelled, "just shut up," anyway, he passed me and guess what! it was
a cop. he just kept going.
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Hey, If we stop these guys from doing this we will not have much more to talk about and the "charm" of Mexican Cops and their dirty deeds will
disappear. I have always been able to talk my way out of greasing some cop or for that matter a ministerio publico attorney. You just have to out last
em.... Play the game and don't back down and never show that you are upset with the shakedown. In fact be sooooo nice that their guilt factor will set
in and you will be on your way.
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Sharksbaja
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Jesse, gotta have guts or you should stay away from Mexico. These creeps can dealt with. How many ways can you bake a cake.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
This shouldnt be done. |
Perhaps what Jesse means is this action would be like "throwing down the gauntlet." A challenge that could have bad repurcussions.
Then again, I'm never quite sure what Jesse means so maybe he could explain it to us.
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Sharks, like the hudspa but worry about the outcome.
I have NEVER won a bet on a white chicken at the Palenque. Nuff said.
Iflyfish
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