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Bajaboy
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I think of how Santa Rosalia has changed for the better over the years...yes, I think things are getting better but there is plenty of room for
improvement....
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mooose29
I also think the litter has gotten a lot better over the years and I am always amazed when I see a clean up crew along hwy 1 miles from any town.
However I wish there is something that could be done about the grafitti on all of the rocks before and around Catavina. It breaks my heart everytime
we drive by to see it. I always envision a crew with giant sand blasters going through there and blasting all of the paint off of the rocks.
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that'll just encourage "them" to start over again, what with a blank canvas and all! i don't think there is a clean wall in all of mexico....
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Skeet/Loreto
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Shortly after the Road opened there was observed large piles of Beer cans along the road. Then it became a source of money for some and they
dissappeared. Then a few busses wrecked and rusted out finally leaving.'
It has improved 500% since the day of opening.
In Loreto Senora Gloria Davis made arrangements for barrells and the hauling of trash from the City. Also the stray Dogs were taken care of.
Yes things have really improved.
Skeet/Loreto
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mulegemichael
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about 12-15 years ago i was touring the east cape with the then minister of tourism..he asked me how i thought baja might increase tourism as i had a
successful tourist business...i said clean up the highway and put out garbage cans..he dismissed it, saying it would be too expensive...i came back
six months later and met with him again...he said, "guess what, mike, i have this great idea..we'll install garbage cans along the highway and start
recycling"...whatever....it HAS worked to a degree...now if they would just empty the garbage cans...
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Martyman
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When I was a kid, my dad, who knew no spanish at all, kept wondering out loud "I wonder why you can't change your flat tire?" The signs read-No Tire
Basura
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BAJACAT
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On my hiking trips i pick up botles or cans from other people that litter.
Then I get to recycle them ..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mooose29
I also think the litter has gotten a lot better over the years and I am always amazed when I see a clean up crew along hwy 1 miles from any town.
However I wish there is something that could be done about the grafitti on all of the rocks before and around Catavina. It breaks my heart everytime
we drive by to see it. I always envision a crew with giant sand blasters going through there and blasting all of the paint off of the rocks.
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that'll just encourage "them" to start over again, what with a blank canvas and all! i don't think there is a clean wall in all of mexico....
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Interstingly, when the Baja Country Club erected large white stucco walls at its entrance on the carretera, it was instantly attacked by taggers. The
Club painted over it, but the cycle repeated itself at least four times that I'm aware of. I guess that was enough, because the walls have been in
pristine condition for over a year-and-half now.
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BajaBruno
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bajamigo, you have just done a good job of summarizing what several criminal justice researchers have spent considerable taxpayer money to prove.
Martyman, on my first trip to Baja in 1985, having flunked Spanish in school, I needed ice. I sometimes saw a polar bear sign with hielo written
below it and I would stop and ask for HEE-lee-o. They unfortunate shopkeeper would ask if I wanted YEA-lo. No, dammit, I want HEE-lee-o!
I drank a lot of warm beer that trip.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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805gregg
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I did notice less trash along the roadside and even trash cans, so some are trying. Then we pulled into Coyote at the south end of the beach, we
watched a Mex family pull in next to the only palm left. The father got out and with his little sons help, proceeded to dump their trash, (including
pampers) next to the palm, thus insuring the next generations disreguard for their environment. All the while two guys sat in the back of their pickup
on the other side of the palm, drank beer and threw the emptys on the sand. It's getting better but there is a ways to go.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
bajamigo, you have just done a good job of summarizing what several criminal justice researchers have spent considerable taxpayer money to prove.
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That's right. The longer a tag stays on a wall, the more wet the taggers pants get. That's why they do it. To see themselves in print. [in many
cases, just like here ]
The sooner the tag is removed, the less the gratification for the P-nche tagger.
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Bob H
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Bringing this thread back after four years... 2009 thread.
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I think Baja has done a great job cleaning up from what I remember back in the mid 80's (my first visit to Baja).
Lot's of changes over the years regarding cleanup. Especially large clumps of debris.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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rts551
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1. I have noticed that most communities have organized clean-up crews.
2. It doesn't hurt that the scrap metal market got better allowing the clean-up of junk cars,
3. more organized land fills providing places to put garbage
the down side - those darn plastic bags. We generally refuse them if possible.
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