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bajajudy
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Todos Santos targeted for illegal workers
Desplazan trabajadores extranjeros a locales
El Sudcaliforniano
25 de julio de 2009
Miguel Rubio
La Paz, Baja California Sur.- Extranjeros, principalmente de los Estados Unidos y Canadá, están desplazando a trabajadores locales de Todos Santos en
las diversas labores, particularmente del ramo de la construcción, según dio a conocer a El Sudcaliforniano el señor Hilario Agúndez León, quien pide
la intervención de las autoridades de Migración para terminar con esta situación.
Asimismo, ante este medio, Agúndez León expuso que es necesario que Migración revise en qué situación se encuentran los extranjeros en Todos Santos,
es decir, si en calidad de turistas o si gozan de permisos para trabajar en nuestro país.
Al acudir el día de ayer a esta redacción, con el fin de dar a conocer lo anterior, Hilario Agúndez, residente de Todos Santos, municipio de La Paz,
explicó que norteamericanos y canadienses desempeñan específicamente trabajos de plomería, pintura y albañilería. Incluso, algunos, dijo, se encargan
de cuidar, mediante paga, propiedades de otros extranjeros cuando salen de la localidad, lo cual a los pobladores de Todos Santos no nos parece
correcto, indicó.
Reitero que es necesario y conveniente que las autoridades de Migración tomen cartas en este asunto, investiguen en qué calidad se encuentran los
extranjeros en Baja California Sur y si tienen permiso para trabajar aquí.
Mientras tanto, es claro que los extranjeros nos están desplazando de las oportunidades de trabajo, denunció.
This basically says that foreigners working, mainly in construction but also as house sitters, better have permission to work
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That is not very reciprocal.
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You have to work as a house SITTER ???
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working, mainly in construction but also as house sitters, better have permission to work
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| Quote: | Originally posted by beercan
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working, mainly in construction but also as house sitters, better have permission to work
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In the US, any time housing is provided, it is considered payment and subject to taxes etc., like with an apartment manager who has a free apartment.
I suppose technically, the free use of a house in exchange for providing security, watering plants, etc., would be considered a part of wages----doubt
anyone has ever paid income taxes on this, however.
Sounds like maybe it is similar under Mexican labor laws----?
Good information, Judy----interesting article.
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Maybe T.S. should have the government build a fence. A big gate as well. Then they can require the Mexicans to show a passport to go there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Maybe T.S. should have the government build a fence. A big gate as well. Then they can require the Mexicans to show a passport to go there.
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Excellent idea Dennis ... except for the ones that make the great carnitas at Barahaus 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Excellent idea Dennis ... except for the ones that make the great carnitas at Barahaus |
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Some people get paid to house sit in Mexico.
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Property management or house sitting, and my translation skills are only a wee bit better than my speaking skills and they are AWFUL, it sounds like
they are serious---wonder how wide spread this will end up being.
Seems like in any area where there are ex-pats, there are the ones who are working "illegally".
Hope this is not a hijack. Curious, for those who know the Mexican labor laws fairly well, I have read that while ex-pats can work on the
construction and maintenance of their own home, that technically, it is against the labor law for them to help others even for no pay?
Thanks
[Edited on 7-25-2009 by jdtrotter]
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House sitting may have been a poor choice of words. Strangers who take care of other strangers property when they leave would have been better!
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And how would one prove that?
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Some people get paid to house sit in Mexico. |
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According to an attorney giving a non-profit group an update on the laws and things to come speech...Todos Santos will not be the only town, other
small gringo towns will be getting a visit also. People renting their homes with out
paying taxes are also targeted.
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Yeah, and don't be helping out during a disaster or crisis either. Oh, the ol double standard at work.
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 WTF? There's no way to make sense out of nonsense.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LB
According to an attorney giving a non-profit group an update on the laws and things to come speech...Todos Santos will not be the only town, other
small gringo towns will be getting a visit also. People renting their homes with out
paying taxes are also targeted. |
Thanks---another good reason not to rent out our home---not that we want to.
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Here's the take on "house sitting" as we understand it here in Punta Chivato. It is illegal for a tourist to take care of someone else's
home/property. How ever you can have your FM-2 or 3 stamped with permission to do specific chores / work. I was under the impression that "inmigrado"
status allowed you to work unrestricted. Not true according to the migra in Santa Rosalia. You still need permission. So you need the equivalent of a
"green card" but with very specific permission. Oh, It pretty easy to figure out. If it's not the owner staying there they can say they're house
sitting or renting in which case the owner is doing the "no no". Jeezs, some one make it easy to have a peaceful life here.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Here's the take on "house sitting" as we understand it here in Punta Chivato. It is illegal for a tourist to take care of someone else's
home/property. How ever you can have your FM-2 or 3 stamped with permission to do specific chores / work. I was under the impression that "inmigrado"
status allowed you to work unrestricted. Not true according to the migra in Santa Rosalia. You still need permission. So you need the equivalent of a
"green card" but with very specific permission. Oh, It pretty easy to figure out. If it's not the owner staying there they can say they're house
sitting or renting in which case the owner is doing the "no no". Jeezs, some one make it easy to have a peaceful life here. |
And recently someone said that Baja was a good place to go to get away from all the restrictive laws---
We don't use house-sitters, but we have offered the use of our home to a few friends when we are not there---they have not taken us up on our offer as
of yet, but I guess that too could be classified as house-sitting.
What about people who own as a corporation, rent their house out so I assume they are paying taxes, but also use it as their second home??? Any
clarity on that one?
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Jeez! You've got to get "lawyer'd up" to allow friends to spend some time at your casa? Is that getting picky or what?
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From now on, if you need a house-sitter, you'll have to go down to Home Depot and get her off the corner. Give her the keys and a credit card.
Everything will be allright.
Oh yeah....Don't forget to pay her social security and Christmas bonus not to mention the crippling she got when she fell off your ladder.
Who let the government predators out of their cage?
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There are many foreigners who own property here that are renting their homes and condos and not paying taxes. Most do it as a business and don´t care
about the local economy, and i think they should.
Fortunately the INM and SHCP is now investigating many of these lowlifes.
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