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Iflyfish
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Reality Check on Rosarito now.
I really appreciate my fellow BajaNomads and the information that you provide on an ongoing basis. This is an invaluable site to those of us who love
Baja. I know that many of the questions I am asking have been addressed under various posts over a long period of time. I would like a current
reality check on living in Rosarito now. I have never spent any time there, have only blasted through on my way south. I ate some great lobster there
in the day and recall liking the place and the people there.
Do you think that Rosarito is a good place to retire now?
Do you feel safe and comfortable living in Rosarito? If so why?
If you don’t feel safe living in Rosarito then why?
Have you moved away from Rosarito due to crime/violence?
Are there areas that you would consider safer than others in Rosarito? What are those areas.
Are gated communities more secure from violence than other types of communities?
Is there much crime against gringos?
Are the police more prone to extort from Gringos in Rosarito than in say Ensenada?
How prevalent is kidnapping and does this worry you?
I know that there is a pier that was built for cruise ships that have not chosen to dock there. Is that pier now used for fishing? Is the entire pier
open or just part? How is the fishing off this pier?
Thanks,
Iflyfish
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noproblemo2
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Do you think that Rosarito is a good place to retire now? YES, WE ARE HERE AND LOVE IT...
Do you feel safe and comfortable living in Rosarito? If so why? 100% FEEL SAFE, WHY THERE IS STILL LESS CRIME HERE THAN CALIFORNIA....
If you don’t feel safe living in Rosarito then why? N/A
Have you moved away from Rosarito due to crime/violence? NO...
Are there areas that you would consider safer than others in Rosarito? What are those areas. WE PERSONALLY ARE JUST SOUTH OF ROSARITO BUT GO IN
NUMEROUS TIMES A WEEK, SHOPPING ETC..... SAFE
Are gated communities more secure from violence than other types of communities?
THE VIOLANCE IS OVERALL THE GANGS AGAINST EACH OTHER NOT US.....
Is there much crime against gringos? NO NO NO......
Are the police more prone to extort from Gringos in Rosarito than in say Ensenada? AGAIN, NO
How prevalent is kidnapping and does this worry you? DOES NOT BOTHER US, WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE DRUG STUFF.....
I know that there is a pier that was built for cruise ships that have not chosen to dock there. Is that pier now used for fishing? Is the entire pier
open or just part? How is the fishing off this pier? DON'T FISH SO DON'T KNOW....
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Iflyfish
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Thanks a bunch noproblemo2. I read so much about the crime, corruption etc. in and around Rosarito, you can see why I would ask such questions.
It is very hard to see the entire picture from here in the US and like a cavity in our tooth, the problem may feel like it is way bigger than it is.
Iflyfish
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Von
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Being from Rosarito, La Barca Familia. Where JR use to rent from my
Grandfather I still think its not safe but at the same time its kinda of safe i
live in San Diego. Thats where i feel safer. I have lots of family that lives on
our land there and they feel safe but i do know theres the secuestradores.
I guess when theres only a few streets going in and out of Rosarito it
gives you the impression that its not safe well for me. I do stay at my place
once in a while. Just dont be flashy.You dont have to be in drug trafficing
to get kidnapped. Extorsion na its not like it use to be its tight now
and Rosarito seems to have slowed down on that old habit.
As long as you dont brag and drive a brand new car everywhere youll be ok.
i do plan one day staying there more im 37 right now so its aways still. My
friends around town the locals.
Tell me its cooling down a little but its still hot. Just get feed back from
everyone and go from there.
Thats my two bits and good luck.
READY SET.....................
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Iflyfish
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Von, I appreciate your two bits a lot. Thanks.
Iflyfish
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Gays to Rescue Rosarito?
Rosarito plans to launch a promotional campaign to make the beach resort a vacation center for gays. Efarid Rodriguez Carrillo is in charge of the
project, modeling it on several similar “alternative tourism” projects that he worked on in Spain.
Rosarito, once a tourist hotspot, has suffered a significant decline in business for several years, and officials are looking for ways to revive the
industry. Gays make the ideal tourist, Carrillo said, because they have more disposable income than straights, in general, and are willing to spend it
on travel, dining, entertainment, and passports.
Carrillo said that at present there are no areas in the beachside city that cater exclusively to gay tourists, but there have been several gay
weddings feted at some of the local hotels, and with good results.
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http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2009/oct/21/gays-rescue-r...
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Woooosh
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I guess that's why Torres has made the gay bar across from his hotel his second office.
my two cents on your survey...
Do you think that Rosarito is a good place to retire now? (Yes. if you own the land/house already. Prices are still ridiculously high (30% at
least)- as if no economic downturn exists.)
Do you feel safe and comfortable living in Rosarito? If so why? (Today yes, last year and the one before it- definatley no. See answer below about
security)
If you don’t feel safe living in Rosarito then why? (n/a)
Have you moved away from Rosarito due to crime/violence? (No but I have moved some Mexican family in with us so we don't stand out as a "gringo"
household. I also mix up and have changed my daily routines.)
Are there areas that you would consider safer than others in Rosarito? What are those areas. (Don't wander around the residential areas east of the
Toll road in central Rosarito.)
Are gated communities more secure from violence than other types of communities? (Definately not. How much integrity does a $20/day guard have and
wobbly barbed wire fences aren't much secuirty? Make your own securtiy system (alarms, cameras) and have an emergency security plan in place)
Is there much crime against gringos? (There is property crime against everyone- pretty much equally I would think. If you leave something unsecure or
unattended the street crooks figure you don't care about it that much.)
Are the police more prone to extort from Gringos in Rosarito than in say Ensenada? (I don't know about Ensenada- but we have never been asked for a
mordida in Rosarito except for the time when we ran a red light)
How prevalent is kidnapping and does this worry you? (Yes, it is still a problem for everyone. It's not possible to look poor enough to not be a
target.)
I know that there is a pier that was built for cruise ships that have not chosen to dock there. Is that pier now used for fishing? Is the entire pier
open or just part? How is the fishing off this pier? ( I think they built the pier years ago in anticipation of casino cruises that never happenned)
[Edited on 10-22-2009 by Woooosh]
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Because the macho narcos would not get caught dead or alive there!!
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Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
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Gays to Rescue Rosarito?
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Rosarito ---- Hillcrest......Mister Sister Cities? This is unbelievably desperate.
Where do they draw the parallel between homosexuality and wealth? Seems to fly in the face of the gay mantra...."It's the way we were born."
Oh well...first sound of gunfire and they'll be diving for cover inside of each other's Speedos. What a joke.
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Because the macho narcos would not get caught dead or alive there!! |
Actually El Teo enjoys Macho Taco a few late-nights a week. Nothing like hiding in plain sight.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
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Gays to Rescue Rosarito?
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Rosarito ---- Hillcrest......Mister Sister Cities? This is unbelievably desperate.
Where do they draw the parallel between homosexuality and wealth? Seems to fly in the face of the gay mantra...."It's the way we were born."
Oh well...first sound of gunfire and they'll be diving for cover inside of each other's Speedos. What a joke. |
Oh god- no speedos please. Having worked in the casino industry I can tell you Rosarito is not alone in trying to attract this demographic group.
Yes Dennis, they do have more money because they have no ex-wives and ungrateful kids to keep them poor.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Is this Letter to the Editor in today's San Diego Union Tribune a "Rosarito reality check?" :
"Narco-trafficers and Baja tourism:
Your Oct. 17 front page story "Mexican marines criticized for shootings" did little to explain how a heavily armed narco convoy of SUV's could
disappear from the tourist-heavy toll road between Rosarito Beach and the Lobster Village (Puerto Nuevo) on a Sunday afternoon, let alone how the
Mexican marines could mistake a single Jeep off-roading for that convoy and open fire on the youths inside. That same day both free roads to Rosarito
Beach from Tijuana and Otay Mesa had mutilated bodies hanging from the bridges.
It may be statistically safe for tourists to visit Rosarito Beach, but the memories and visuals of a trip to Rosarito Beach could take a family a
lifetime of therapy to overcome and is hardly worth the deep fried lobster at the other end."
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Yes Dennis, they do have more money because they have no ex-wives and ungrateful kids to keep them poor. |
So...If gay marriage becomes legal, which one will be the wife when the honeymoon is over and they end up in divorce court? I can see it now...."I'm
the wife." "No, I'm your wife." "No No...I'm the little woman, your wife. Pay me forever." No. You pay me. You may be a b-tch but, you're not
the wife. I am. You pay me."
On and on. Equal rights, huh? What a can of worms to open.
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Actually, in places like California with community property laws, it probably wouldn't matter. And in fact, many prominent folks in the gay and
lesbian community who have, in fact, taken advantage of legal marriage tend to use there terms along gender lines. Ellen is Portia's wife and Portia
is Ellen's wife. They refer to each other as such.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Actually, in places like California with community property laws, it probably wouldn't matter. And in fact, many prominent folks in the gay and
lesbian community who have, in fact, taken advantage of legal marriage tend to use there terms along gender lines. Ellen is Portia's wife and Portia
is Ellen's wife. They refer to each other as such. |
I don't think I am as well versed on the subject as you Bajahowodd, but I have noted one thing however. I would say Portia is the wife! 
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Ellen is Portia's wife and Portia is Ellen's wife? I think this thread has been hi-jilled.
The stability of marriage is exactly what the gay community needs. In the interests of ameliorating issues like the spread of STDs and the excessive
drinking that goes along with cruising, marriage between gaze should be encouraged, not denigrated.
It's too soon for any longitudinal studies to prove it, but I'm certain that the divorce rate between lesbian couples is going to be far below that of
heterosexual relationships which, at 50 percent of first marriages, is nothing to write home about. Hard to see what's so sacred about marriage
between straights when their relationships die at that rate. Gay men, not so much, there's lots of fickleness in that scene. But there'll be an
improvement over the status quo of serial one night stands which in the long run will be good for everyone.
I think the gay marriage consulting business will be a growth industry, along with tatoo removal and hearing aids for the disco set.
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jazz- I'll buy everything you said, except for what appears to be slightly sexist, about fickleness. I'm a firm believer in the notion that much of
the negative stereotypical behavior among gays and lesbians is rooted in the pressures that have been placed on them by a dismissive society. The more
acceptance, the less pressure.
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Who's Portia? I thought that was a car.
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Yes Dennis, they do have more money because they have no ex-wives and ungrateful kids to keep them poor. |
So...If gay marriage becomes legal, which one will be the wife when the honeymoon is over and they end up in divorce court? I can see it now...."I'm
the wife." "No, I'm your wife." "No No...I'm the little woman, your wife. Pay me forever." No. You pay me. You may be a b-tch but, you're not
the wife. I am. You pay me."
On and on. Equal rights, huh? What a can of worms to open. |
I think Rosie O'Donnell is going through this conversation with herslf today with her high-profile gay marriage break up. Many children involved.
Sadly, marriage- straight or gay isn't taken as seriously as it shoud be for all the political battles being fought over it. JMHO
Did anyone vote for gay divorce? Now that would be cruel- to make unhappily married people like Rosie stay married forever...
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