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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 08:49 AM
Lamb


Shari's post of the burro barbeque in Asuncion made me think of my favorite kind of meat, Lamb. Why is it so difficult to find in any market, while flock of sheep around the Constitution/Lopez Mateos area are so common. Even in La Paz I've never found it in any of the markets. Got a leg one time at the Loreto Sunday market, but it was pretty poor, with about enough meat for one person.:no::P
And the little restaurant at the Lopez Mateos turn wouldn't sell me any, or didn't have any to sell. I believe they get it from their own ranch.
Jesse's place has shank on the menu. They're delicious and next time there, I will try to get his source.:P




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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 09:37 AM
Cevapcici


The finest thing to make with lamb is cevapcici. A Balkan meal introduced by the Turks. The Turks are prohibited from eating pork so their kitchen often uses lamb. Served everywhere, every outdoor cafe under the evening lights beneath a huge shade tree, all you need is cevapcici, onions, bread, and a beer. The bread is optional but the onions are a must. Barbeque the meat until it's crusty on the outside but juicy within. They sprinkle water over them when the flames get too high.

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 09:44 AM


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Lamb is my Favorite Meat Also>

There are many reasons for Lamb being hard to find. One being when they closed down the large packing plant at San Angelo Texas.

I really started eating Lamb in Fresno Calif. where there is a large nuimber of Armeianian People--Shis-K -Bob.

Here in Amarillo , the Beef Capitol of the World, I have to order my Lamb through an Albertsons Market.
I have been informed that most of the Lamb now comes from South America Countries. Anybody know if that is True??

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 09:56 AM


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I have been informed that most of the Lamb now comes from South America Countries. Anybody know if that is True??

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I tried to find info on that, Skeet, but didn't. Seems like a lot of mention is of New Zealand as being a big time producer.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 10:34 AM


Have no idea about South America. I have purchased it (leg, shoulder) at City Club in La Paz, frozen, from New Zealand, a common source for lamb in the US. It's good.
As for rack of lamb, my own favorite, have not seen it in La Paz.

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 10:44 AM


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Van:
Lamb is my Favorite Meat Also>

There are many reasons for Lamb being hard to find. One being when they closed down the large packing plant at San Angelo Texas.

I really started eating Lamb in Fresno Calif. where there is a large nuimber of Armeianian People--Shis-K -Bob.

Here in Amarillo , the Beef Capitol of the World, I have to order my Lamb through an Albertsons Market.
I have been informed that most of the Lamb now comes from South America Countries. Anybody know if that is True??

Skeet



Here in San Diego most suppliers are using both Australian and New Zealand lamb. The Colorado lamb which is very hard to get is superior in my opinion. The lamb served at the Basque Restaurants in the Bakersfield area and North Nevada I would guess use their local lamb, and those are very good as well.

There are a few local mexican restaurants that serve Borrego which is outstanding. Next time I visit I will ask them what their source is.

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 10:44 AM


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I have been informed that most of the Lamb now comes from South America Countries. Anybody know if that is True??

Skeet


I tried to find info on that, Skeet, but didn't. Seems like a lot of mention is of New Zealand as being a big time producer.


New Zealand has more Lamb than people. CostCo has had a New Zeland lamb connection for years- I buy individual "frenched" racks ($12-14 each) and the "t-bone" cuts there. Never found any place else with the prices of CostCo for Lamb. Haven't checked the Mexico Costco's for it.




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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 10:55 AM


Just found out that 46% is from Australia, 26% from New Zealand Imports that is.

In Los Banos Calif. there was at one time over 20 years ago lots of Lamb being Grazed on large tracts of Land to the North and /east of now where runs Interstate 5.

At the Basque Resturant in Los Banos, CA, served daily. called Wool Growers, you can get some of the best lamb around.

Very few places in Fresno Ca, now serve Armenian Shish Kabob, with all the good spices.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 11:03 AM


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Just found out that 46% is from Australia, 26% from New Zealand Imports that is.

In Los Banos Calif. there was at one time over 20 years ago lots of Lamb being Grazed on large tracts of Land to the North and /east of now where runs Interstate 5.

At the Basque Resturant in Los Banos, CA, served daily. called Wool Growers, you can get some of the best lamb around.

Very few places in Fresno Ca, now serve Armenian Shish Kabob, with all the good spices.


In Bakersfield there is also a Wool Growers, (they may be the same owners) and their Roast Lamb is as good as I've had in a restaurant!

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 11:17 AM


Had a fabulous roasted leg of lamb at Hotelito... (thanks Jenny!!) a couple of nights ago. Apparently came from Sam's Club La Paz. It was a fabulous evening with great food and great girlfriends!! (as a side not, although this was a private evening... Jenny sometimes has some evenings where she not only has the bar open but also serves her fabulous fare... I will post as soon as I know it is happening)



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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 11:23 AM
Mary Had a Little Lamb


with peas and some mashed potatoes.

Is it somehow ironic that the environmentally damaging practices used to raise cattle are responsible for the relative scarcity of lamb. I grew up in New York at a time when lamb was a regular protein on the dinner table. However, over the years, the giant meat packers were able to develop their practices to where the price of beef made it a deciding factor. One need only check the weekly supermarket fliers to see the "specials" on various cuts of beef. I really think that over time, we have developed a society, in general, that has lost its familiarity with lamb, mostly because of cost factors. As others have pointed out, there continues to be pockets of society that regularly dine on lamb. They tend to be folks with ties to the Mediterranean region, be it Europe or Northern Africa. Luckily for me, in central Orange County, I have several choices of markets that cater to the Middle Eastern clientele.

That said, there is no such product as lean lamb. But, it sure tastes great!
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 11:37 AM
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Just found out that 46% is from Australia, 26% from New Zealand Imports that is.

In Los Banos Calif. there was at one time over 20 years ago lots of Lamb being Grazed on large tracts of Land to the North and /east of now where runs Interstate 5.

At the Basque Resturant in Los Banos, CA, served daily. called Wool Growers, you can get some of the best lamb around.

Very few places in Fresno Ca, now serve Armenian Shish Kabob, with all the good spices.


Do they still serve at the Santa Fe Hotel?

Used to be the best lunch in town. You would sit down with the borders at their main table where they would start bring some of the best food you could get at least that was what I thought at the time... fresh tossed salad, turine of soup, lamb chops, lamb stew, and side dishes of macaroni salad and other types of salads with baskets of fresh sheepherder bread and for desert cheese. A house wine was also served with the meal Oh,one other thing.. you had to stand in the bar and have refreshment until the lady came in and rang a really big bell to tell you "chows on".

Just remember, I took my wife to lunch there while she was 7 months pregnant and a bunch of the men all gave her the ends of the loaf of bread, they told her it give her a male child.

And about two months later, she gave birth to a baby boy..

She had to go back and show all the men the baby, he was about 2 months old and was on the bar in the Santa Fe Hotel in 1979 and later was having all the attention a baby could get with about 35 Basque men all thinking it was their bread that did it...
as we ate another excellent meal French Basque food.

Some of their sheep was run on land over in Inyo and Mono Counties, not sure if that gave a different taste or not, but I had never been a "lamb" person up until I had good lamb.

Just another story...:):)

Skipjack, that Cevapcici is making me hungry just looking at it... I'm going to give that one a try...

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 01:14 PM


Gene Wilder knows where to get a good piece of lamb.



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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 01:16 PM


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Gene Wilder knows where to get a good piece of lamb.


That was baaaaaaaaaaaaad!

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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 01:25 PM


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Gene Wilder knows where to get a good piece of lamb.


That was baaaaaaaaaaaaad!

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That was a very funny movie . . . what was the title? I can only recall cracking up when Gene told the lamb they "could make it work if they tried."
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 01:45 PM


Wessongroup:

The Santa Fe is still open.
It is just in a bad location now, Just need to carry a weapon in that part of Fresno when you go to Dinner.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 02:01 PM


Mary had a little Lamb,
With her Lamb she did sleep,
The Lamb turned out to be a Ram,
And Mary had a little Lamb.

On a more serious note, as stated above, Costco is a great source for lamb. Also Aemenian or Persian markets usually carry lamb. Had a great B-B-Q lamb chop dinner here in Mulege last night at a friend's place. Can't believe some of the restaurants here don't prepare lamb. I have talked with Ray of Ray's Place in the past and he indicated he may give it a try, so you Mulege folks can indicate you desire for it when he opens.
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 02:46 PM


LA PAZ LAMB

I don't have a restauranteur's inside contacts that Jesse certainly has, but 2 or 3 times a year we buy a lamb from a local rancher and butcher it at the ranch - last couple of years we got a lamb as a gift from a grateful local rancher when we saved their cows from mud holes in the the arroyo after a storm!

It works out VERY inexpensively - but trying to find out what I last paid on the hoof. Wrote it down somewhere . . .
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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 02:49 PM


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That was a very funny movie . . . what was the title? I can only recall cracking up when Gene told the lamb they "could make it work if they tried."


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[*] posted on 10-22-2009 at 02:57 PM


I regularly purchase lamb at the Costco's and Sam's club in the U.S. Perhaps either place can special order it in their respective places in Baja.
I've never looked for it in Baja, however, their meat departments are completely different than I am used to seeing in the US. Mostly less meats. INHO I think that in Baja, the small carnicerias are still supported by the locals, as opposed to buying at the box stores.




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