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thumbup.gif posted on 10-23-2004 at 01:20 PM
Baja GPS List: NEW DESIGN & BIGGER


Different background, updates incorporated in the El Rosario to L.A. Bay Jcn. page, New page for Valle Chico to Matomi and the various canyons in the area... and I still have more to do. But, I thought you might like to see the changes so far, and I need a break from working on this today! Link is also in my web site and notebook.

http://community-2.webtv.net/TheBaja/bajagpslist

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[*] posted on 10-23-2004 at 03:45 PM
...wow


That's a lot of typing! I put your previous list in an EasyGPS file...now I'll have to pick out the new WP's and add them. GPS stuff is fun to play around with...also helps abit when yur' lost!

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[*] posted on 10-23-2004 at 06:47 PM


David,
Thats great info, even to a GPS dummy like me.
Keep up the good work.

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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 11:58 AM
David, thanks so much for doing this


your GPS points are so darn accurate that last year on a trip to Tinaja de Yubay we came to a fork in the road, but were not sure if it was the right fork, we took the GPS and walked up the road a few feet past the fork and the arrow told us to go back

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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 01:29 PM


Yes, it is amazing technology... and all thanks to our defence needs and your tax dollars!

I really see all vehicles (specially SUVs) coming standard with them. Imagine always knowing where you are or how far and how to get to a destination?

With programs like easygps.com you can store my waypoints then load them into your GPS without all the button pushing (the ones you need).

The Auto Club is using GPS to finally make the map of Baja accurate, too. The author of the new AAA guide will be on Baja Talk Radio this Tuesday. Which you can also hear, anytime after the live show.




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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by David K
Different background, updates incorporated in the El Rosario to L.A. Bay Jcn. page, New page for Valle Chico to Matomi and the various canyons in the area... and I still have more to do. But, I thought you might like to see the changes so far, and I need a break from working on this today! Link is also in my web site and notebook.

http://community-2.webtv.net/TheBaja/bajagpslist

[Edited on 10-23-2004 by David K]


Hi David: Any chance you could send me your Baja Waypoints file in MS Word or Excel format? I would love to send them to my Palm with Documents to Go. Actually Excel would be best then I could use GSAK to send them to the GPSr. I tried copying and pasting the scroll notebod you have on the web page and spent over an hour trying to unformat the text from that spiral format. It was a mess. Thanks, wornout (PS: Posted another cache today and it was approved, KM 150, Hwy 5 near Military Stop 30 miles north of San Felipe).
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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 09:29 PM


Hi wornout, the GPS web page is built on my webtv, not a computer, not in any file.

To protect my work from being used for financial gain by others (without compensting the author, ie. me), I have it copyrighted.

Because I have not (yet) written a new Baja guide (with GPS), I felt my Baja amigos (you guys) would enjoy using them. So, I published it for your use.

You are just as able as I am to copy and paste the text onto Word... as long is it is for YOUR use and not republished for sale or free distribution.

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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 08:24 AM


I was in Sport Chalet yesterday getting my SCUBA tanks filled and had some time so wandered over and saw the GPS units.

They look really nice; color displays, lots of features, long battery life, lots of features (again!).
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 10:38 AM


Wornout, just go to David's site and left mouse click and hold to highlight, then drag down for the entire page. Click on edit and click copy. Open Word and under edit click paste. Go back and do the same for each page of way points. There's like 14 pages.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 10:55 AM


David,
Nice job on the GPS points! I know that it?s a lot of work and hopefully the author (i.e. you) will enjoy some financial gains from all the work.

Keep it up!




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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 12:02 AM
Thanks Arman


I believe in delayed gratification! The less delay, the better!

Looking forward to hearing you on Baja Talk Radio! Are you on next week?




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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 09:48 AM


David,
Sounds like a plan.

Yes, I will be on next week. Any suggestions?
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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 08:11 PM
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Wornout, just go to David's site and left mouse click and hold to highlight, then drag down for the entire page. Click on edit and click copy. Open Word and under edit click paste. Go back and do the same for each page of way points. There's like 14 pages.


Well I tried that the other night and got some real weird formatting, can't seem to shake those tables (pretty spiral come out messy when pasted in word).

I just wanted a copy so I would have the document in my Palm when I travel. I hate taking paper anymore.
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You are just as able as I am to copy and paste the text onto Word... as long is it is for YOUR use and not republished for sale or free distribution.



I got a pretty weird looking document due to the tables. Thanks for the response.
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thumbup.gif posted on 10-26-2004 at 08:45 PM
Here is the first page of my GPS site


This is copy and pasted right now, so it should do the same for you... David

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VIVA BAJA GPS Waypoint List

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GPS recievers are becoming more and more popular and even standard equipment in some vehicles. The GPS receiver uses satellites to tell you exactly where you are and how to get to a published location. They can be used with or without topographic maps. Maps are drawn to different specifications or 'datums'. Mexican topo maps are drawn to map datum 'NAD27 Mexico'. A new GPS receiver comes set to map datum 'WGS84' . The datum can easily be changed by going to 'setup', then 'units', then 'map datum' on your GPS receiver.
The following GPS waypoints (longitude and latitude coordinates) are for map datum 'NAD 27 Mexico'. All latitude figures are 'north' and all longitude figures are 'west'.
DISCLAIMER: The author does not guarantee this list to be free of errors, use these waypoints purely for entertainment. However, I do attempt to be 100% accurate.
EVERYTHING in this list is protected by COPYRIGHT (C) 2004 by David Kier. Duplication is NOT permitted beyond your personal needs!






Tijuana to El Rosario

Mexican Border,TIJUANA: 32? 32.54'/ 117?01.75'

Tijuana Zoo: 32?29.88'/116?56.08'

ENSENADA (Jcn. San Quintin Hwy.1 & San Felipe Hwy.3): 31?51.60'/ 116?36.34'

El Taco de Huitzilipotchtli restaurant: 31?53.10'/ 116?36.28'

Punta Banda/ La Bufadora Hwy., Maneadero: 31?42.72'/ 116?34.63'

Puerto Santo Tomas Road: 31?34.97'/ 116?25.13'

SANTO TOMAS: 31?33.38'/ 116?24.34'

Ejido Erendira Hwy (turn west for next 2 waypoints): 31?23.35'/ 116?19.21'

Ejido Erendira: 31?16.38'/ 116?22.27'

Punta Cabras/ Bahia Almejas: 31?20.85'/ 116?27.28'

SAN VICENTE (Pemex): 31?19.56'/ 116?14.85'

Valle Trinidad Road (east): 31?14.54'/ 116?10.30'

COLONET (San Antonio del Mar Road west): 31?04.58'/ 116?12.49'

San Telmo, Observatory Road: 30?58.01'/ 116?09.25'

CAMALU (Pemex): 30?50.34'/ 116?03.56'

Mision Santo Domingo Road, east: 30?44.76'/ 116?00.05'

Posada Don Diego Road west, Km. 173, Vicente Guerrero: 30?42.97'/ 115?59.25'

SAN QUINTIN (Pemex): 30?33.89'/ 115?56.55'

Old English Cemetary, on bayshore: 30?27.56'/ 115?55.84'

Cielito Lindo & La Pinta Highway Jcn., Km. 11 (turn west next 2 waypoints): 30?25.33'/ 115?52.74'

Cielito Lindo Motel/Restaurant: 30?24.53'/ 115?55.42'

Gypsy's RV Park: 30?24.42'/ 115?55.84'

EL ROSARIO (Pemex): 30?03.58'/ 115?43.50'






El Rosario to L.A. Bay Highway Junction

EL ROSARIO (Pemex): 30?03.58'/ 115?43.50'

Pta. San Carlos Road (south turn, next waypoint): 30?01.57'/ 115?32.03'

Las Pintas Petro & Fossil site: 29?53.91'/ 115?24.48'

Los Martires/San Juan de Dios Road north: 30?03.82'/ 115?20.85' (San Juan de Dios ruins: 30?10.95'/ 115?10.03')

Mision San Fernando: 29?58.31'/ 115?14.11'

El Progreso: 29?58.70'/ 115?12.00'

Santa Catarina Road southwest: 29?57.52'/ 115?06.05'

El Marmol Road northeast: 29?54.88'/ 114?56.51' (El Marmol: 29?58.20'/ 114?48.54'),(El Volcan: 29?59.54'/ 114?46.22')

Agua Dulce (historic spring): 29?52.97'/ 114?49.38'

Junction of old main road and southern El Marmol road: 29?51.34'/ 114?48.52'

La Virgen site on old main road: 29?49.87'/ 114?47.97'

Faro San Jose (Pacific coast) road: 29?48.42'/ 114?47.93'

Cave Painting site (near Catavina): 29?45.11'/ 114?44.53'

CATAVINA: 29?43.71'/ 114?43.08'

Rancho Santa Ynez: 29?43.76'/ 114?41.72' (Mision Santa Maria: 29?43.89'/ 114?32.79')

Laguna Chapala, Gonzaga Bay road junction: 29?23.11'/ 114?22.91'

Calamajue canyon access road: 29?17.52'/ 114?14.30' (Calamajue mission: 29?25.27'/ 114?11.68')

San Antonio and Pacific coast road: 29?17.19'/ 114?13.66'

El Crucero, old road from Gonzaga via Calamajue: 29?14.30'/ 114?09.28'

Old road SE to L.A. Bay, and road NE to Rancho San Luis: 29?09.59'/ 114?08.63'

L.A. BAY HIGHWAY JUNCTION: 29?02.75'/ 114?09.13'




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thumbup.gif posted on 10-27-2004 at 11:14 PM
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Tecate East to Sierra Juarez, Guadalupe Canyon & SE to Hwy. 5 or SW to Hwy. 3

Tecate Border: 32?34.59'/ 116?37.61'

Jcn. with toll Hwy. 2-D: 32?33.75'/ 116?34.49'

Vallecitos Petroglyphs: 32?32.33'/ 116?05.82'

Sierra Juarez Rd. Jcn.@ (free) Mex.#2 (south turn, next 2 waypoints): 32?31.20'/ 116?04.04'

Road to Rcho. Ponderosa: 32?22.29'/ 115?59.70'

Abnd. Quartz Mine: 32?18.59'/ 115?59.16'

La Rumorosa Toll Booth: 32?33.35'/ 116?02.15'

Guadalupe Canyon via Graded Rd @ Mex.#2: 32?34.33'/ 115?47.35'

Guadalupe Canyon via Laguna Salada Dry Lake Rd. @ Mex.#2 (south turn, next 5 waypoints): 32?34.57'/ 115?44.63'

Jcn. Graded road & south end of Dry Lake road: 32?13.06'/ 115?42.24

Guadalupe Canyon Entrance: 32?09.40'/ 115?47.29'

Cohabuzo Jcn: 31?55.74'/ 115?36.22' (Turn left/ east for next 2 waypoints)

Ej. Saldana Road (S): 31?50.12'/ 115?19.47'

Hwy. 5 & Ej. Saldana Jcn: 31?51.75'/ 115?10.92'

South of Cohabuzo 8.2 mi. is a fork, go right for El Mano: 31?49.81'/ 115?33.89'

Jcn. road to left. Up mountain via El Mano, go right: 31?47.68'/ 115?36.65'

El Mano driveway left, road begins major climb: 31?48.56'/ 115?40.39'

Rancho Los Pinos, elev. 5,086': 31?48.77'/ 115?46.26'

Jcn. Santa Catarina left (S)/ Agua Blanca right (SW): 31?45.20'/ 115?51.52'

Jcn. Agua Blanca left (S), Hwy. 3 right (N): 31?42.24', 115?54.25'







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thumbup.gif posted on 10-27-2004 at 11:17 PM
Updated and expanded tonight


I added more waypoints to this and the previous posted list...

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Calexico/ Mexicali, West (southbound): 32?39.88'/ 115?29.78'

Mexicali/ Calexico, East (northbound): 32?40?20'/ 115?23.24'






San Felipe South to Gonzaga and on to Hwy. 1

SAN FELIPE Pemex (south): 31?00.91'/ 114?50.56'

Sulfur Mine (on old Puertecitos road): 30?43.10'/ 114?46.66'

Nuevo Mazatlan: 30?43.30'/ 114?42.27'

Arroyo Matomi road @ Hwy. 5: 30?29.42'/ 114?39.99' (San Fermin road: 30?29.78'/ 114?50.12')

PUERTECITOS: 30?21.10'/ 114?38.42'

El Almacen Ruins: 30?03.01'/ 114?34.96'

Agua del Mezquitito water hole: 29?59.16'/ 114?34.12'

Rancho Grande, Alfonsina's Road east: 29?47.50'/ 114?24.85'

Alfonsina's, Gonzaga Bay: 29?48.44'/ 114?23.69'

Las Palmitas Road west: 29?41.09'/ 114?24.57'

Las Palmitas Oasis: 29?40.35'/ 114?28.29'

El Camino Real @ Arroyo Santa Maria, elev. 609': 29?41.73'/ 114?28.18'

On El Camino Real, elev. 1,610': 29?03.07'/ 114?30.13'

Jcn. ECR & road 1.5 mi. to Mision Santa Maria: 29?43.12'/ 114?31.71'

Molino de Lacy (near Punta Final):29?42.49'/ 114?19.62'

Green Pools, La Turquesa Canyon: 29?33.72'/ 114?23.89'

Las Arrastras driveway: 29?32.96'/ 114?20.35'

Coco's Corner: 29?31.00'/ 114?17.42' (left for next 2 waypoints)

Jcn. ahead to Puerto Calamajue, road right to mission: 29?31.10'/ 114?13.46'

Calamajue mission site: 29?25.27', 114?11.68'

HWY. 1, Laguna Chapala: 29?23.11'/ 114?22.91'






Valle Chico and Sierra Canyons (West to Southwest of San Felipe)

Main road east at Hwy. 5, is at the big 'Rockadile' sign (El Saltito road)

Major Fork, left to Valle Chico and Matomi/ Ahead right to Dry Lake (next 4 waypoints): 31?01.68'/ 115?05.75'

Junction with older, westside valley road going south (15.4 mi. to El Cajon): 31?02.84'/ 115?13.01'

Diablo Dry Lake south end is 0.2 mi. past above jcn.

Diablo Dry Lake north end is 13.2 mi. from south end, graded road continues to Hwy. 3.

Hwy. 3 Junction (100 miles to Ensenada): 31?16.86'/ 115?19.22'

Going south on eastside Valle Chico road. Intersection, ahead to Rancho Algodon (1.3 mi.) and El Cajon (8.0 mi. at 30?51.38'/ 115?14.01'). Left to continue south: 30?47.03'/ 115?09.95'

Linda Vista (Abandoned farm, water tank): 30?43.00'/ 115?08.75'

Road right is short cut to Agua Caliente canyon: 30?42.51'/ 115?08.52'

Plan Nacional Agrario (Ejido Agua Caliente, abnd.). Left to continue south, ahead to canyon (next 3 waypoints): 30?40.33'/ 115?08.05'

Entrance to Agua Caliente canyon, short cut road in from right: 30?39.60'/ 115?09.61'

In canyon, 2.7 mi. (from above) to end of driveable road in 2004. 1.1 mi. hike to hot springs (keep to right side of canyon)

Agua Caliente Hot Springs, 144?F: 30?38.85'/ 115?12.41'

On Valle Chico road, junction: Matomi turn left, to Parral go straight past the corral (next 5 waypoints): 30?35.67'/ 115?06.98'

From Carricitos (the corral, above) take faint road right to go 2.8 mi. to Carrizo canyon entrance gate located at: 30?34.89'/ 115?09.23'

Road right goes 3.0 mi. to Berrendo canyon trailhead (deep sand): 30?34.48'/ 115?06.71'

Parral canyon arroyo reached at: 30?32.97'/ 115?05.41'. 0.2 mi. further is a gate.

Drive through middle of corral: 30?30.64'/ 115?06.48'. Road washed out 0.6 mi. ahead.

Rancho El Parral (abnd.): 30?29.42'/ 115?06.97'

Back on Valle Chico road, junction with road east along fence line then into Canada el Parral ('Azufre Pass') to near the sulfur mine, on the old Puertecitos road: 30?35.19'/ 115?04.02' (east end, old Puertecitos rd.: 30?41.51'/ 114?46.42')

Drop down into Matomi canyon, road left in arroyo towards Puertecitos, right to Matomi: 39?29.63'/ 115?01.52'

Rancho El Matomi (waterfall filled swimming hole down path): 30?27.40'/ 115?04.82'

In Arroyo Matomi, junction with Llanos de San Fermin road going north: 30?29.78'/ 114?50.12'

Hwy. 5 junction at Arroyo Matomi road: 30?29.42'/ 114?39.99' (10 mi. north of Puertecitos)





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To Bahia de los Angeles (& Mision San Borja)

Highway 1 and L.A. Bay Jcn: 29?02.75'/ 114?09.13'

Road north to Desengano & Yubay (see log below): 29?04.30'/ 114?02.37'

Old L.A. Bay Road in from north in Arroyo Yubay: 29?03.64'/ 114?00.22'

Road north to Bahia Guadalupe and Pta. Candelero (see log below): 29?01.27'/ 113?47.76'

Road south to San Borja and beyond: 28?59.20'/ 113?44.56' (south turn, next 9 waypoints)

Montevideo Road (turn east for next 2 waypoints): 28?58.43'/ 113?46.34'

Road Fork, go left: 28?55.39'/ 113?44.72'

Montevideo Rock Art: 28?54.74'/ 113?43.23'

Arroyo Grande Road east: 28?45.72'/ 113?45.56'

Rosarito Road west Jcn: 28?45.07'/ 113?45.89'

Mision SAN BORJA: 28?44.65'/ 113?45.23'

Southeast of San Borja: Fork, right for trail, left for line camp: 28?40.17'/ 113?40.01'

Trail head for old Rancho San Gregorio: 28?40.03'/ 113?39.90'

San Gregorio (abnd.): 28?39.81'/ 113?39.89'

Back on L.A. Bay Hwy., take paved road left at town entrance for next 3 waypoints:

La Gringa, Jcn. with road north: 29?02.49'/ 113?32.79'

Fork, Las Cuevitas Right/ Copper Mine Left: 29?03.20'/ 113?113?33.16'

El Toro Copper Mine: 29?05.86'/ 113?35.78'

BAHIA DE LOS ANGELES (at Las Hamacas): 28?57.20'/ 113?33.55'






Side trip to Tinaja de Yubay & Rock Palm Hill

Turn north off L.A. Bay Hwy. (7 mi. E of Hwy. 1, near Km.11), signed Rcho. San Luis: 29?04.30'/ 114?02.37'

Jcn. with old L.A. Bay road, go left/ west: 29?06.34'/ 114?01.25'

Jcn. with Yubay road (right/ N), ahead/ west to Desengano: 29?06.83'/ 114?01.61'

Desengano mine ruins (on old L.A. Bay road): 29?06.97'/ 114?01.83'

Jcn. (on Yubay road), right/ east to Yubay, ahead/ north to Rock Palm Hill: 29?09.16'/ 114?01.36'

Rock Palm Hill parking, (hike down to arroyo then east): 29?12.72'/ 114?00.54'

Yubay parking/ trail head (north, uphill, out of arroyo): 29?10.28'/ 113?59.62'

El Camino Real to south: 29?10.58'/ 113?59.21'

El Camino Real, above arroyo: 29?10.54'/ 113?59.19'

TINAJA DE YUBAY historic water hole: 29?10.68'/ 113?59.22'






Side trip to Bahia Guadalupe and Punta Candelero

Leave the L.A. Bay highway and head northwest then northeast across the Laguna Amarga dry lake.

Come to Arroyo Mesa de Yubay and 'T' junction of roads: 29?11.27'/ 113?47.15', right turn next two waypoints.

Road Fork, go left for next waypoint: 29?11.84'/ 113?40.20'

Bahia Guadalupe (Remedios): 29?12.37'/ 113?39.27'

Continuing north from 'T' junction, above....

Come to dry lake bed of 'Laguna Seca': 29?13.87'/ 113?50.67'

Road turns sharp from north to east: 29?17.50'/ 113?50.51'

Junction with Arroyo Los Candeleros: 29?20.16'/ 113?46.81'

Gulf Coast near Punta Candelero: 29?22.60'/ 113?44.50'






L.A. Bay South to Hwy. 1

Diaz' at L.A. Bay: 28?56.76'/ 113?33.51'

Camp Gecko: 28?54.04'/ 113?31.69'

Las Flores: 28?49.08'/ 113?31.73'

Terminal Canyon Trail head: 28?44.44'/ 113?32.77'

Jcn. Old Rd. (south turn next 4 waypoints): 28?40.72'/ 113?25.41'

Rancho Paredones road east: 28?36.80'/ 113?24.55'

La Bocana/San Pedro Jcn: 28?28.39'/ 113?23.43'

Trail south to Tinaja Sta. Maria: 28?28.00'/ 113?20.42'

Tinaja Santa Maria: 28?26.07'/ 113?19.99'

Bahia Las Animas Jcn: 28?40.52'/ 113?21.72'

Bahia San Rafael Jcn: 28?34.78'/ 113?07.41'

Jcn. Old Rd. (south end): 28?26.05'/ 113?10.41'

Jcn. Old El Arco Rd. (go east): 28?20.77'/ 113?01.82'

Jcn. New Rds. (east to S. Francisquito, south to El Barril or Hwy.1): 28?21.08'/ 113?00.33'

Jcn. at El Progreso (south to El Barril, west to Hwy.1): 28?20.58'/ 113?00.33'

Top of Cuesta de la Ley: 28?17.71'/ 113?06.14'

Fork, ahead/west for El Arco, turn left/south for new road to Hwy.1: 28?10.42'/ 113?13.08'

Crossroad, south to state border and Hwy.1, east to Mision Sta. Gertrudis (& next 3 waypoints): 28?01.45'/ 113?14.45'

Rancho Miraflores: 28?01.45'/ 113?13.76'

Rancho Guadalupe: 28?02.36'/ 113?09.33'

Mision Santa Gertrudis: 28?03.95'/ 113?05.05'

State Border, Mountain Time Zone: 28?00.00'/ 113?16.16'

Guillermo Prieto: 27?50.62'/ 113?17.84'

'T' Jcn., turn west: 27?49.97'/ 113?17.94'

Hwy. 1 Jcn. (south-east to Vizcaino): 27?43.41'/ 113?27.23'






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[*] posted on 10-28-2004 at 12:26 PM


I'm new to GPS units...

Is there a way to load in waypoints from a file, database or any other means than by manually entering them on the keypad?

Lists of waypoints like those above would be great to beable to share with other users
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[*] posted on 10-28-2004 at 05:16 PM
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Yes....however...

1. you have to have a GPS unit that will allow up/down loads to your PC via it's data cable...most units can do this, these days.

2. you need some software to 'massage' your waypoints on your PC so you can upload them to your GPS unit.

3. I use 'EasyGPS' - you can download their 'basic' program for free, and it works fine for the use you mentioned. You can also buy their 'pro' software for cheap, that has more options, etc....go to www.easygps.com to check it out.

4. with EasyGPS (or others) you can then enter your waypoints using your PC, which is lot's quicker...you can add icons, descriptions, etc, to your liking.

5. you then can upload the waypoints to your GPS unit.

6. I like to make separate files of GPS waypoints in EGPS for like areas - then I can upload just what I think I'll need for an outing.

7. when in the 'field' you can also download those new waypoints you have saved with your GPS unit, and add them to your EGPS files - really handy.

8. when using EGPS, you can also go to the internet and easily view the exact position on a variety of maps, and aerial photos (in USA only). This is a great feature, as you can then print maps, etc of your desired waypoints - really fun to play with back at home.

9. It's conceivable that some of us with EasyGPS files could exchange, same using emails with attachments...just a thought...

Lest me know what you think. GPS units are the greatest, and EGPS lets you set up routes, tracks, etc and upload to your unit before you leave on a trip.





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