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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
That's a blue white cross. |
Looks more like a tyrannosaurus rex.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
lat 38 says the boat "sailed into" a pod of wahles and the whales "attacked." i say the opposite, any sane whale would think themselves under attack
if a boat sailed into their pod and crashed into one or more whales, and the whales were rightly defending themselves from the interloper who
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A sailboat prestenting a threat????? Blue whale, gray whale, whatever color, aparently they are clearly much more important than a mere human.
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hmmm...it IS possible for gray whales to be around...not usual though and also as mentioned above, they do not hang in pods but sometimes there can be
a few whales swimming together that might look like a pod. Also if you hit one while it's asleep, it can get mad and slap the boat or ram it...and
easily break a rudder. Maybe they hit one and it slapped the rudder.
I would LOVE to know what type of whales they were...but I highly doubt it was an unprovoked attack....unless....it was.
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My guess would be sperm whales...
Although it really wouldn't matter what size or species. In a contest between whale and plastic sailboat the whale usually wins. Especially a tender
racing boat like the one sunk.
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The whale bumped the rudder, the rudder fell off and left a hole. The boat sank. Would that actually qualify as an "attack"?
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this has always been one of my "cons" of whale petting. All human habituated animals end up either getting killed or killing someone inadvertantly. If
whales grow up being mushy, kissy face, rubby dub with pangas, which might be OK in a controlled, protected, lagoon situation...but in the real ocean
they just may want a hug from passing sailboats too...or perhaps try to get a kiss from some Macah whalers.
Many whales fall in love with the pangeros as they see them every day and hang with them. While before they were afraid of boats and avoided them,
today they are seeking them out for a massage.
With the increase in "friendly" behavior has also come a marked increase in agressive behavior now that whales have lost their fear of boats....yin
yang.
I know whales with attitude that seek out boats just to freak people out...scares the crap out of you man....when a 30' whale lifts your panga out of
the water...takes you in her flippers and swims around fast, upside down with you...one of those nearly crap your pants moments. We actually had to
beach the panga several times to avoid this agressive bully whale...she caused a few injuries one season.
Many many many times, they aproach the pangeros first from the stern of the boat cause they know thecaptains and trust them ...mother whales will
actually lift their calf and rub it on the skeg of the motor to teach the baby that this part is dangerous and can cut you. I can see how a gray whale
nudging the rudder could dislodge it easily...
not an attack in that case.
[Edited on 10-30-2009 by shari]
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Who is Ahab?
Why Ahab is Ahab.
Where is he from?
Baha I think.
Can't wait to hear more Shari whale stories, fascinating life with whales.
Iflyfish
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Another good reason to pilot a power boat. Any boat that max's out at 8 knots is too slow to escape a sea turtle.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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A J120 Max's out at 16-18 knots possibly more.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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A J120 will do 16-18 k for a few seconds at a time while surfing down a wave, but the hull speed is barely 7 k.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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The skipper a, woman, said they sailed into a pod of whales and they felt a bump then another. The whales were attacking the rudder. They abandoned
ship and it sank in about 5 minutes. They had set off their epirb and the Coast Guard Helo picked them up in less than 4 hours.
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from the Latitude 38 article, it doesnt sound like they were gray whales...something bigggger!! it says blue whales were spotted too...hmmm...even
rarer.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
from the Latitude 38 article, it doesnt sound like they were gray whales...something bigggger!! it says blue whales were spotted too...hmmm...even
rarer. |
Yep...Cartel submarines. They're becoming a nuisance. 
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Doesn't take much to break a rudder, much less the area around it. My boats all had break-aways and we carried a spare in open water.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Whales have a long memory<snip... There once was a whaler from Nantucket..
[Edited on 10-29-2009 by Pompano] |
There once was a whaler from Nantuckett
Who sailed a race in an old sail bucket.
He sailed into a pod
And with nary a nod,
An old whale said
"We"ll ram him...and say........"
Don't believe everything you think....
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most excellent poetry paisano.
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I totally agree with Shari, I would like to know what species these so called whales were. I know only of one other attack on a boat by whales, and
that was Orca's hitting a yacht in the Pacific, sinking it, but leaving the family in the water untouched.
I had dived with Blue Whales, Fin Backed and other species here just off Mulege and San Bruno, and NEVER have I felt threatened in the water or indeed
on the boat. My nine and thirteen year old daughers, Thea and Emma, were in the water this summer with as many as 12 to 15 finbacks, and never did I
feel there was a problem. Believe me, I was in the water with them, enjoying the priviledge these animals give us. M
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamick
I totally agree with Shari, I would like to know what species these so called whales were. I know only of one other attack on a boat by whales, and
that was Orca's hitting a yacht in the Pacific, sinking it, but leaving the family in the water untouched.
I had dived with Blue Whales, Fin Backed and other species here just off Mulege and San Bruno, and NEVER have I felt threatened in the water or indeed
on the boat. My nine and thirteen year old daughers, Thea and Emma, were in the water this summer with as many as 12 to 15 finbacks, and never did I
feel there was a problem. Believe me, I was in the water with them, enjoying the priviledge these animals give us. M |
well, whales are big, wild animals; and while they may tolerate human presence/interest 99.9% of the time,... the other 0.1% of the time humans may be
present at the wrong place/wrong time.
if you try to interact with a whale when he/she is in a cranky/bad mood, you might get a beat down.
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Forget everything you've read or heard.
Latitude 38 has been able to get more of the facts regarding the sinking.
Latitude 38
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Hate to say I told ya so...but...told ya whales rarel...y if ever attack unprovoked. So coming off a big swell, they hit a humpback, it bled and
reacted by swacking the rudder with it's tail while trying to dive out of the way...simple as that.
Yesterday there was a nice pod of about 6-7 humbacks out front of our house...feeding for an hour...beautiful. They have been around for a couple
weeks now.
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