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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
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My personal opinion that being in remote baja is among the healthiest and safest places to be and that diversity of biology here among plants and
people makes it a healthier environment. |
earth to newkid, earth to newkid, can your hear me now?
we are not talking about living in the bush while eating tofu and broccoli. we are talking about not wanting to be packed in a sardine can for many
hours with a contagious sick person (flu, cold, etc) and little ventilation.
this is why i always fly by private charter jet  |
Hello hello - you said if you don't want the "risk" of being near people then do not take a plane, however if you do do not place the responsibilty
for your health on others.
There is no logic in this thread, say presumably you did take a vaccine because you think its a good idea then you are protected presumably, or
converserley that you did take a vaccine so you are greater risk of mutating virus. However to suggest that you didn't take a vaccine and neither did
someone else so therefore they put you at risk? It makes no sense?
Bottom line-you need to make your own decisions and take your own precautions in life. You decide for yourself what steps-not anyone else for you.
Please be concientious of the false mindset that somehow others are responsible either to check you, force your to vaccinate or somehow are
responsible for your health if they are sick-these arguments lack logic and provide no resonable and responable plan to protect yourself.
In case it needs to be repeated, eat well-sleep well-that is the best and likely only way to care yourself now and forever.
This commentary has nothing to do with discussing the validity of the value of vaccines which is an entirely other non-sensical discussion, that I am
sure can devolve from here. |
i don't know why y'all started talking about swine flu and vaccinations.
i am just talking about any contagious person flying on a plane and infecting others -- usually it is just common cold or flu that thoughtless people
are spreading throughout the mile high sardine can.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
My personal opinion that being in remote baja is among the healthiest and safest places to be and that diversity of biology here among plants and
people makes it a healthier environment. |
earth to newkid, earth to newkid, can your hear me now?
we are not talking about living in the bush while eating tofu and broccoli. we are talking about not wanting to be packed in a sardine can for many
hours with a contagious sick person (flu, cold, etc) and little ventilation.
this is why i always fly by private charter jet |
Hello hello - you said if you don't want the "risk" of being near people then do not take a plane, however if you do do not place the responsibilty
for your health on others.
There is no logic in this thread, say presumably you did take a vaccine because you think its a good idea then you are protected presumably, or
converserley that you did take a vaccine so you are greater risk of mutating virus. However to suggest that you didn't take a vaccine and neither did
someone else so therefore they put you at risk? It makes no sense?
Bottom line-you need to make your own decisions and take your own precautions in life. You decide for yourself what steps-not anyone else for you.
Please be concientious of the false mindset that somehow others are responsible either to check you, force your to vaccinate or somehow are
responsible for your health if they are sick-these arguments lack logic and provide no resonable and responable plan to protect yourself.
In case it needs to be repeated, eat well-sleep well-that is the best and likely only way to care yourself now and forever.
This commentary has nothing to do with discussing the validity of the value of vaccines which is an entirely other non-sensical discussion, that I am
sure can devolve from here. |
i don't know why y'all started talking about swine flu and vaccinations.
i am just talking about any contagious person flying on a plane and infecting others -- usually it is just common cold or flu that thoughtless people
are spreading throughout the mile high sardine can. |
Everyone is carrying various levels of viruses and anti-bodies and bugs and mites and diseases-the issue at hand is whether they are in a healthy
biological balance internally and externally or not, which is entirely the responsibility of the individual, not a third party.
The sooner that you accept responsibility for yourself and your health you avoid the false trap that the government should check for flu or require
vaccine, or that third parties somehow are responsible for your health, the sooner you will find common sense approaches and solutions to your health.
The argument you Mgoat and others put forth here contains no logic and gives up your individual liberty and responsibility to another party and in
fact puts you at greater risk of infection or influence from third parties, such as forced vaccines, quarantines, doctors orders which are accompanied
by physical enforcement which is a lot to give up, providing no increase in health and in fact puts you in a much greater danger.
While its clear that these issues and this discussion is rife with division among community members, it is further evident that these divisions and
drug marketing programming has led to collective conclusions based on no science which in fact increase your risk.
In any case, consider these issues with calm reasonable approaches and resist the inclination to project oppression based on false notions.
Remember that the vaccine does have great risks which are clearly stated on the insert and that you can greatly protect yourself simply by eating well
and sleeping well which is evident from hundreds and thousands of years of history.
Definitely I would at least offer to discuss these issues over a home made chicken soup with lots of garlic and a jalapeno kicker.
Enjoy the great fresh food of Baja! At least the bugs are just about gone post hurricane so the risks of transmission from mosquitos are greatly
reduced.
Have fun,
[Edited on 11-21-2009 by gnukid]
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flyfishinPam
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now why aren't we screening the cruise ship passengers at every port they disembark at?
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monoloco
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Bottom line is that it is irresponsible to go out in public when you are infected with a cold or virus. If people would just stay at home when they
come down with something it would do a lot to mitigate the spread of disease. There is nothing worse than sitting on a plane with someone who is
hacking and coughing and blowing their nose, it is a guarantee that others will be infected. We are responsible for the health of others, that
seemingly innocuous cold or flu you have could be a death sentence for someone with a compromised immune system or other health problems.
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nobaddays
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I agree 100 %
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Natalie Ann
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
If you are personally worried about catching something, you should be the one wearing a mask......
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Actually.... according to doctors at Kaiser Permanente
the sick person is the one who should be wearing the mask.
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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KATE! Thank you - I needed your comment after so much of the rest of it.
My friend arrived just fine and is happily recovering in excellent Baja style from her stressed-out-over-worked-family-issues-living-in-LA induced
fatigue.
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capt. mike
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Due to heightened terror alert status all female passengers on screaming airlines must undergo rigorously invasive cavity searches, usually by
appointment a day or 2 before scheduled departure. Beverage service is optional and complimentary during these security checks.
All those requesting multiple exams will be acommodated depending on time between "lay" overs......... 
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
All those requesting multiple exams will be acommodated depending on time between "lay" overs......... |
What a
guy. Whoever said service was a thing of the past. .
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Corky
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What a CROCK IF CHIT!
HELLO!
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Enjoy the great fresh food of Baja! At least the bugs are just about gone post hurricane so the risks of transmission from mosquitos are greatly
reduced. Have fun,
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damn, Gnu...
you always come thru with a concise dehydration of all the crap that is plaguing a thread....
  
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Corky
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Step up to the plate!
Simple.....
If you are sick. Don't get on a plane.
I don't see much to argue about............
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