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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:18 PM


Sniffing glue is not illegal. Do we need classes on how to properly sniff glue? Your argument amounts to basically nothing.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:24 PM


It's so easy to drift off topic.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:27 PM


Ken,This is Steve
This is a sore subject between me and my wife ,she is more on your side, as much as I hate to say.
I do not know a solution for the drug problem. If legalization is the answer,won't the number of drug addicts sky rocket? How will we deal with that problem?
O" I forgot Obama's health care will take care of that!!!!!
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:30 PM


Packoderm, I believe that is called Huffing ,and yes it is illeagal in California
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:42 PM


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Ken,This is Steve
This is a sore subject between me and my wife ,she is more on your side, as much as I hate to say.
I do not know a solution for the drug problem. If legalization is the answer,won't the number of drug addicts sky rocket? How will we deal with that problem?
O" I forgot Obama's health care will take care of that!!!!!


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It hasn't happened in countries where legalization exists (The Netherlands, for example). It is my opinion that the number of addicts is not a function of whether the drugs are legal or illegal. As the USA has amply proven, the users will get the drugs one way or the other. Legalization, IMHO, will not significantly change the number of addicts. It will, however, eliminate the huge illegal profits and the violence and crime which accompanies them.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:45 PM


So..lets turn this whole thing around for a minute. Make it mandatory, a law, that everybody has to use drugs. Most everybody obeys the law and uses drugs to greater excess as habits morphs their needs and they begin to weaken and die. They die en masse and populations are diminishing, albeit legally.
Eventually, all that is left are those who broke the law and didn't induldge. In both scenarios the lawbreaker wins. What's up with that?
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:52 PM


DENNIS I don't exactly see what your strange theory proves. And I have to admit I am a little weary of theories. This is very real to me. My son-in-law, father of my youngest grandchild, died yesterday of a heroin overdose. He had absolutely no problems getting his highly illegal drugs. There is a possibility he could have been treated had they been legal.

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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:56 PM


Check out this link- this is how Malasia deals with the drug problem. Wonder how effective it is?

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-docume...
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:57 PM


Sorry Ken. I had no idea. I wasn't theorizing...just stretching the imagination. The whole topic is frightening and frustrating.
My condolences, Ken. I mourn your loss.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 09:58 PM


Ken,

I agree with the part about the profits,but if the drugs are legalized the price would go down and more people could afford to try things like meth,for example, witch is very addictive, more drug addicts.We all know meth adicts will do anything to get a fix.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:02 PM


Understand DENNIS, appreciate your kind words. Steve, my concept of legalization does not involve a reduction in price. The profits would be legal and could be used to finance treatment and education.



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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:04 PM


Do we really need to have this discussion again?!



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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:06 PM


Did they ever find that truck?



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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:08 PM


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Do we really need to have this discussion again?!


Really....
as per D. Gilmore:
"...I've become....comfortably numb." on this issue, anyway.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:20 PM


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Do we really need to have this discussion again?!


I think we might continue to as long as it is such a strong component in what ills Baja lately.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:23 PM


Truck?????

Anyone??????
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 10:43 PM


In Vancouver BC, city council effectively legalized heroin & provided cushy lounges to shoot up in. 4 years later, there are four times as many heroin users in Vancouver, 4 times as many drug deaths, and 4 times as much theft & breakins to pay for drugs. (Source: Fraser Valley Health Authority)
City council is starting to change their views.


In Singapore, possession of drugs is punishable by death, a fact proclaimed in 12" high letters as you deplane in Changi airport.
Singapore has ZERO drug problems.




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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 11:01 PM


And now ...after a long interuption :(..... we return to the topic of a STOLEN TRUCK.....:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 11:15 PM


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In Vancouver BC, city council effectively legalized heroin & provided cushy lounges to shoot up in. 4 years later, there are four times as many heroin users in Vancouver, 4 times as many drug deaths, and 4 times as much theft & breakins to pay for drugs. (Source: Fraser Valley Health Authority)
City council is starting to change their views.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1030/p04s02-woam.html



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In Singapore, possession of drugs is punishable by death, a fact proclaimed in 12" high letters as you deplane in Changi airport.
Singapore has ZERO drug problems.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/01/15/singapore.ex...
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[*] posted on 11-30-2009 at 11:17 PM


well...maybe not.....
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