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Susana
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Beware police in Constitucion
Tuesday, Dec. 1, at 9:30 am. as we were almost out of Ciudad Constitucion on the south end, we were pulled over by the police. There were two officers
in the small, white pickup. It was well marked as a policia. We were in our truck and camper. The officer approached my husband, asked for his
drivers license, and asked if he spoke spanish. He handed over his license and said he spoke very little. Then, in spanish, the officer proceeded to
tell him that he needs to stop at all the lights as if they were 4 way stops. (I'm not fluent at all, but I can get by) We told him we stopped
everywhere we were supposed to. The officer ignored that and continued on about the stopping at all lights. So, I told him we were very sorry, and
if we needed to pay a fine, we would go to the station with him. Now, he starts shuffling his papers, going back and forth to his vehicle. Asked me
where I'm from, I told him we had a house in San Quintin. Now, he says we have to stay in town until noon to pay the fine. We have been through
similar situations in Tijuana, so we told the officer, that wouldn't be a problem, we are not in any hurry, and it's a beautiful day to relax. He
laughed (slightly) then handed back the license, and said yes it's a beautiful day, and there is no problem for us, and have a nice day!
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rhintransit
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I was in Constitucion last week and noted the mess with the traffic lights. also the recent previous thread on same. I did note lots and lots of
police patrolling. I kept a very low profile, parked, walked all over to do my errands and business, and stuck to back roads, even getting back out
of town.
a few hints. if you do the above, or if traveling thru, go one street to the east you will avoid most of the mess of Hwy 1. you still need to keep a
sharp eye out for police vehicles AND need to stop at most corners, but the black and whites are concentrating on Hwy 1 and another major street three
or four blocks in, an apparent rotation.
should you be told that the office is 'closed' tell the officer you know where it is and will go there now to pay and/or follow him. the station is
on Zaragoza street (also east of Hwy 1, a block or two), between downtown and Ley's, closer to Ley's on the east side of the road. worth a bluff if
the station is 'closed' and the officer's solution is pay now and drive on...
also an acquaintance who is bilingual said that she was told by a Federale to call the Federal police if the city officer was demanding a bribe. I do
not have that number...maybe someone else does?...but the Federal office is on the west side of the highway just outside, Insugentes side, of town.
maybe worth a drive if you can get the officer's name, badge number, etc. she said they Federales are aware of what is going on in Constitucion...
I can't vouch for this, but a thought.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Susana
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Thanks for that info. We actually already discussed avoiding Hwy. 1 there, seems better than getting pulled over again. We were also (later on, in
La Paz) that if it's a bogus stop, to tell the officer that you are going to call Z 1, or Zeta uno. Evidently, this usually puts a stop to it as
well. Don't know for sure, and employee at the Secretaria de Turismo in La Paz told us.
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David K
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Gold star for Susana!
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ncampion
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I would be interested in that Federale number to program into my cell if anybody know it. Could be useful for a lot of things on the road.
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Don Alley
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When we were flagged down by officers on foot for "making a left turn without waiting for the green arrow," we insisted on going to the station. And
they had my license and no car. So we all piled in the front bench seat of the pickup, Paula and I and two police women, drove to the station, and I
paid a fine for a "dangerous left turn."
The traffic light did not have a green left turn arrow.
I also got a bogus stop for speeding once. Tough town, watch out for the cops there.
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squid
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well, it all depends on what license plate you got on your car.
With a U.S plate you are always 'in danger' or call it a 'money maker'. Her our story.
My hubby drove to La Paz, US plate onhis BMW. In that area where the micro towres are located he was doing some 160 km/h. There was a "Panda" (black
and white Federali) located under a tree a next to the entrance to the towers.
Making a long story short, he was puled over and a rdar gun was shown to him ad 'evidence' He knew that he was doing more than 160 km/h but the radar
gun showed 131 km/h. Immediately he knew that the gun was fake.
He was approached in Spanish but he said: no word Spanish. The officer said: No Ingles! Well, the Panda directed his pointer finger to the license
plate and made it clear that he has to take it off the car and my hubby has to go to the station tomorrow - as he (the officer) will not be back until
late evening - and pay a fine. All in Spanish but it was understandable as my hubby speaks Spanish well, but didn't tell.
it went back and forth and forth and back. Then my hubby took 200 Pesos out of his pocket and showed it to the Panda. He took it and said in fluent
Englsih:" Thanks, you made my day"
So much about Federalis and their practice.
Now, when I am driving to La Paz with my Audi > MX plates on, I never ever was pulled over at all. Although I am doing more than 130km/h all the
times. Even when if I see a Panda at the roadside.
My plates are my insurance!
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Sharksbaja
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Hey Squid going 100 mph around those tower curves is crazy . Explain please how you feel comfortable breaking laws on the road but are adamant about
being honest on immigration.
What does that make you? Oh, and why would you bring a Beemer to Baja unless you wanted to be noticed.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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monoloco
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I'd say driving 100mph on that road qualifies as irresponsible. The Zorillo should of hauled him to jail.
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Dave
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I'm sure he felt just as uncomfortable...
| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Explain please how you feel comfortable breaking laws on the road but are adamant about being honest on immigration.
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As the cop who took the 200 pesos. 
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Hey Squid going 100 mph around those tower curves is crazy . Explain please how you feel comfortable breaking laws on the road but are adamant about
being honest on immigration.
What does that make you? Oh, and why would you bring a Beemer to Baja unless you wanted to be noticed. |
well, obviously you don't know too much about Baja or Mexico at all. Just b/c you got a house in Mulege doesn't make you an expert on INS or Panda
questions at all.
Breaking the law on immigration issues like having no FM-2/3 when owning a property might cost you your property. INS is not the guy on the street.
You cannot fool INS very often, but you can pay the guy on the street. 200 MN is quite a difference to loosing a propertyy incl house on it, don't you
agree?
And why my hubby is driving a Beemer (is that a BMW?) is none of your business.
Go to the thread about 4WD and AWD and read about all the BS they are producing there about cars. Americans know about cars as much as the Neandethals
did. Fact!
Cars are my passion as well as my husbands. So what?
Wanna discuss with me the difference of an american "car" and a modern car from Japan or Europe??
American cars are like an old Merry-Go-Round compared to Japanese cars or a car from Italy, Germany or France or Spain.
start a new thread and I will defeat you in no time.
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'd say driving 100mph on that road qualifies as irresponsible. The Zorillo should of hauled him to jail. |
I agree by 100 %.
The only fact you forgot to say is: driving 100 mls IN AN AMERICAN CAR is irresponsible.
They tend to flip over @ lower speed (Ford) they are just hopping off the road when bumpy etc.etc.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'd say driving 100mph on that road qualifies as irresponsible. The Zorillo should of hauled him to jail. |
I agree by 100 %.
The only fact you forgot to say is: driving 100 mls IN AN AMERICAN CAR is irresponsible.
They tend to flip over @ lower speed (Ford) they are just hopping off the road when bumpy etc.etc. |
I don't
care if you are driving a Ferrari going 100mph is irresponsible and putting others at risk. Save the fast driving for the track or the autobahn.
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Bajahowodd
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You Overlooked the Audi
| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Hey Squid going 100 mph around those tower curves is crazy . Explain please how you feel comfortable breaking laws on the road but are adamant about
being honest on immigration.
What does that make you? Oh, and why would you bring a Beemer to Baja unless you wanted to be noticed. |
Seems like many Nomads seek to look less ostentatious by driving older, inexpensive cars. However, I have seen the occasional Mexican driving new
Escalades!
And is it just me, or do we seem to have a thread about the police in Constiucion every couple of months?
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'd say driving 100mph on that road qualifies as irresponsible. The Zorillo should of hauled him to jail. |
I agree by 100 %.
The only fact you forgot to say is: driving 100 mls IN AN AMERICAN CAR is irresponsible.
They tend to flip over @ lower speed (Ford) they are just hopping off the road when bumpy etc.etc. |
I don't
care if you are driving a Ferrari going 100mph is irresponsible and putting others at risk. Save the fast driving for the track or the autobahn.
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PLS explain that to me why 100mls are putting others at risk >> IF YOU DRIVE THE RIGHT CAR !
I once crossed the US towrds Florida. In Alabama i.e. everybody is doing 90 mls, even the he 18wheelers. so what the heck is the diff between 90 in
Alabama and 100 on Baja on a better road as the Alabama roads???
well you said you don't care about a good car vs a US dinosaur. That makes you an expert on any car question.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'd say driving 100mph on that road qualifies as irresponsible. The Zorillo should of hauled him to jail. |
I agree by 100 %.
The only fact you forgot to say is: driving 100 mls IN AN AMERICAN CAR is irresponsible.
They tend to flip over @ lower speed (Ford) they are just hopping off the road when bumpy etc.etc. |
I don't
care if you are driving a Ferrari going 100mph is irresponsible and putting others at risk. Save the fast driving for the track or the autobahn.
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PLS explain that to me why 100mls are putting others at risk >> IF YOU DRIVE THE RIGHT CAR !
I once crossed the US towrds Florida. In Alabama i.e. everybody is doing 90 mls, even the he 18wheelers. so what the heck is the diff between 90 in
Alabama and 100 on Baja on a better road as the Alabama roads???
well you said you don't care about a good car vs a US dinosaur. That makes you an expert on any car question. |
If you can't figure out why it's putting others at risk to drive 100mph
on a road that was designed for 60-80kph *** *** * ******** *****.
[Edited on 12-3-2009 by BajaNomad]
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Bajahowodd
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How else does one get from La Paz to Constitucion in 1:15?
Seriously, there are many rural stretches along Highway 1 that are flat and straight, where one can see miles ahead. Who drives 60kph on those?
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'd say driving 100mph on that road qualifies as irresponsible. The Zorillo should of hauled him to jail. |
I agree by 100 %.
The only fact you forgot to say is: driving 100 mls IN AN AMERICAN CAR is irresponsible.
They tend to flip over @ lower speed (Ford) they are just hopping off the road when bumpy etc.etc. |
I don't
care if you are driving a Ferrari going 100mph is irresponsible and putting others at risk. Save the fast driving for the track or the autobahn.
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PLS explain that to me why 100mls are putting others at risk >> IF YOU DRIVE THE RIGHT CAR !
I once crossed the US towrds Florida. In Alabama i.e. everybody is doing 90 mls, even the he 18wheelers. so what the heck is the diff between 90 in
Alabama and 100 on Baja on a better road as the Alabama roads???
well you said you don't care about a good car vs a US dinosaur. That makes you an expert on any car question. |
If you can't figure out why it's putting others at risk to drive 100mph
on a road that was designed for 60-80kph *** *** * ******** *****. |
O.K., now we are getting personally. Fine with me.
*** *****, explain to me which road in the US or the rest of the world is designed for ANY certain speed. ???
A road is constructed with no speed in mind. And the SIGNS ARE DICTATING THE Speed.
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[Edited on 12-3-2009 by BajaNomad]
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oxxo
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A day without a fight on Nomads is like a day without sunshine in Baja. This is better than any ol' TV novela.
Carry on.
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Skeet/Loreto
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As the Once beautifull Yoiung body shivers and shakes, with Blood running from the ears and Eyes, fecas forced from the stomach at the time of Impact,
her Mother twisted and bent with all four limbs twisted,one side of her face completely gone Away goes the next Speeder driving his pretty car a
100mph hoping that he can beat someone to La Paz.
Oh! how sad to see someone "Bragging about his Speed, his Pretty Car. His Road;
Go like Hell Squid! One of theses days you will get There!!
Skeet/Loreto
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