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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 05:34 PM
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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 06:53 PM


That is so true! What many of these locals do not understand is that they would not be living in their vacation spot if it was not for tourism. When I went to College in Durango Colorado the locals acted crappy to the tourists and the college students the only two things that kept that town afloat.

Much different in Mexico. People for the most part are extraordinarily gracious for the visits.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 07:19 PM


In defense of New York, I've been there many times and the locals will always stop to help...nothing is more confusing that emerging from a subway, squinting at a map in the bright light having no clue which way is which. :?:
Someone will always ask if they can point me in the right direction.

BUT...waiters in Paris...now we're talking rude...:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 07:26 PM


Quote:
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When I went to College in Durango Colorado the locals acted crappy to the tourists and the college students the only two things that kept that town afloat.


Hmmm, I was in Durango in '73-'75 at Fort Lewis and I never felt any locals "crap".
I had a blast !!
When were you there ?
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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 07:29 PM


I was there from 88-98. I worked at the ski area, some of the restaurants, and a few of the hotels. I had a blast while there as well, but it would seem that in most of the restaurants I worked in the staff really hated the tourists. I thought that was pretty dumb considering they were the ones who tipped us.

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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 07:34 PM


Student ski passes were $99 in '74 and Purgatory opened in mid October that year.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 08:27 PM


We used to see bumper snickers around here that said:

If it's tourist season,
is it OK to shoot them?

Every community has it's share of ignorant people.

I run a museum with 30 volunteers. I have never seen one of my folks who didn't bend over backwards to make our visitors feel welcome, and to share their knowledge of the many "secret" special spots they've come to love. We KNOW on which side our bread is buttered!

It is, though, difficult some times if I don't leave like a dragster on the green (we have three stop lights) because some yoyo with a LA license plate frame will be all over his horn.

The most common bumper strip you'll see here now simply says: RELAX




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[*] posted on 12-10-2009 at 08:32 PM


When I first came to Socal in 1981 I use to see:

"Welcome to California, now leave!"
or
"Beautify California, take someone with you when you leave."

You don't see that much anymore. Very few people here can read english anymore so there would be no point.:lol:




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eureka.gif posted on 12-10-2009 at 09:07 PM


I have lived in many desirable locations; San Francisco, Sausalito, San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato, Mx.,Santa Fe, N.M. and Nevada City, CA. All these places attract tourists.

I worked for Pan Am,also as a tour guide for a tour company in my 20s, and as a bartender in famous, busy establishments in my 40's and 50s. Many if not most tourists were obnoxious when out of their own familiar territory. They were rude, wore funny clothes and were generally ignorant; perhaps fearful too. (Later in life I sometimes traveled with culture driven groups who were in it for the art or cultural education). There was a tremendous difference.

On the other side of the coin are the smug, know it all locals who have no vested interest in tourism and see tourists as intruders. These were mostly youths who weren't invested in businesses that benefited from tourism. Although, most who worked in the service industries maintained a professional countenance while working, but muttered under their breaths with resentment.

I would say, in these times, anyone who does not travel and have genuine interest in cultures other than their own are the ignorant ones. There is a huge difference between the tourist and the traveler. :smug:




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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 11:57 AM


Growing up in San Diego I have seen my fair share of funny incidents involving tourists. I think my favorite is driving over the bay bridge into Coronado and passing a car stopped at the top so they could get out and take a picture. Insane!

Hilarious typo by the way vgabndo! "bumper snickers"! I almost shot coffee out of my nose.




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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 03:44 PM
NORTH DAKOTA TOURISM






I WAS LUCKY.

LAST YEAR I MET THEM BOTH.




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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 04:47 PM


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"I have lived in many desirable locations; San Francisco, Sausalito, San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato, Mx.,Santa Fe, N.M. and Nevada City, CA. All these places attract tourists.

I worked for Pan Am,also as a tour guide for a tour company in my 20s, and as a bartender in famous, busy establishments in my 40's and 50s. Many if not most tourists were obnoxious when out of their own familiar territory. They were rude, wore funny clothes and were generally ignorant; perhaps fearful too. (Later in life I sometimes traveled with culture driven groups who were in it for the art or cultural education). There was a tremendous difference."



Tony- Your post got me to thinking (which I do on occasion). I haven't spent much time trying to compile any sort of record, but it does seem to me that the whole tourism issue, host v. guest is complex. We have traveled extensively over the years. What has probably struck me most is that there seems to be no pattern I can identify. I do think that by and large, the most obnoxious tourists tend to be American and French. They both tend to exhibit a sense of superiority. German tourists tend to be very nice. But when touring Germany, as hosts, I found them to less hospitable than I expected.

In our experience as travelers, we have found that Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, Mexicans, Turks, Egyptians Pacific islander, with the exception of Tahiti ( ah, the French) were among the most gracious hosts.

Not scientific in any way, and I expect others to disagree.

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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 05:07 PM


Howard,
Don't forget Mexico/Mexicans...gracious hosts.:)




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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 05:51 PM


our area is highly dependant on tourist dollars. Fortunately, we are close enough to more populated areas/cities that we are get quite a few weekenders. Many of those weekenders, fall in love with the area and end up buying and BUILDING (that's where we come in :spingrin: ) here.

But we do have a saying for some of those visitors when they do things like walk across the street in the middle of the block (not at the crosswalk) expecting you to slam on the brakes ....and then they look at you like you're a crazy driver instead of them being a stupid pedestrian... --- it's a contraction of tourist and marooon--- we call them tourons! And in the winter, they're probably wearing SPANDEX:barf: !

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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 06:20 PM


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According to most European papers, the Dutch hold the honor of being the most obnoxious guest in all of southern Europe, bar none. Biggest, loudest and most obnoxious drunken bunch I have ever laid eyes on, according to an English columnist. Makes me so proud it makes my eyes water.:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 06:44 PM


Aaawww, Vandy.....that's so sweet!;)

For such a small country the Dutch do a few things very well! Wooden shoes, tulips, windmills, cheese and drunken obnoxious tourists!

Be Proud! Stand Tall! Drink up!

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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 09:02 PM


Geoff...I can't claim that one. My favorite columnist of all times, SF being my favorite city, was Herb Caen. He would regularly report on the humorous bumper SNICKERS he had seen. He also did cute firm names: A florist shop called Marilyn mon Rose, or a pet sitter called Furry God Mother. He used a couple of my submissions, but not the two Chicken Restaurants in Atlantic City Maryland...Big Peckers Bar and Grill, and Mother Cluckers. Very popular tourist destination, when I was there the city was closed for the season.



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[*] posted on 12-11-2009 at 09:25 PM


Oh Gawd, big highjack coming...

Grateful Bread Bakery in Pacific City OR.

Moody Brews drive thru' coffee in Dorris California

Yreka Bakery in NorCal...an unlikely pallindrome already off the NEW topic.




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[*] posted on 12-12-2009 at 07:24 AM
Consistency of Purpose?


Bajadogs and MountGoat,

Why aren't you calling attention to this clear violation of board rules?

Posting a cartoon of NY is suddenly a Baja topic?

Where are the board police when they are needed?

Help :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P




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