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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
Oy Vey! I can't do Talmudic debate!!!!! I forgot about Shabbat.
But now that I am old and retired I rarely know what day of the week it is anyway! |
Zei gezundt.
[Edited on 12-12-2009 by arrowhead]
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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OK, Mr Schmarty Pants
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Talmud has three methods for lighting the Hannukah candles: one the first night, two the second night, etc. (the most common prcatice) o
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Lets say we choose the most common practice of lighting the Menorah.
And the woman of the house is married but has no children.
What would the answer be?
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Still On Topic, But With a Little Tack
There is a gentleman we have seen around Rosarito for years and we encountered him last week in TJ.
He has a full beard, wears a hat and a prayer shawl around his waist.
I have speculated about how hard it must be to keep kosher, but now that I know that there is an orthodox temple in Tijuana (Thanks, Dave!) that
explains one thing.
Now a question, based on his way of dressing, is he just Orthodox or is he Hasidic? Or is not possible to make an assumption based on outward
observation?
No Talmudic debate here, I am woefully unprepared.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
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Happy Hannukah !
•Life is just one damned thing after another
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Now a question, based on his way of dressing, is he just Orthodox or is he Hasidic? Or is not possible to make an assumption based on outward
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Hasidic.
Short with a red beard? If so probably Rabbi Polichenco from the Orthodox Synagogue in TJ. Originally from Argentina...go figure. 
BTW, Rabbi Carlos Salas, (the other TJ Rabbi) is building a rabbinical academy in Rosarito.
Also, keeping kosher is really not that difficult. For instance all vegans keep kosher...whether they know it or not.
[Edited on 12-12-2009 by Dave]
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Just a minute....I'm still haning in here on the candles.
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A Rabbincal Seminary in Rosarito?
Wow and double yay.
This is the kind of positive news that deserves to be widely reported.
I am sure the seminarians will be a tremendous asset to the community.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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\"Alea iacta est.\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
I am sure the seminarians will be a tremendous asset to the community. |
The Carnitas stands must be all abuzz. 
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One for the 'Heeb Hoppers'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ubVzb1ZMg&feature=fvw
And, 'Hanukkah in Santa Monica'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZUgr1zh878&feature=relat...
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I just got here. As someone who grew up in New York, this has to be among the most interesting threads ever posted here. Thanks to Diane for starting
it.
It got me to thinking about present day. If I am correct, it is currently year 5769 of the Jewish Calendar. Making an analogy to the Mayan calendar
and all the end-timers looking for 2012, the Jews expected that life, as we know it, would last 6000 years. That may put a damper on those end-timers
lacking patience. Because according to the Jews, we'll be around until at least 2240.
Of course. life, as we know it, is subject to interpretation. In my lifetime, Obama being elected president may just fill the bill. Shalom!
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Dave - Red Beard and Short?
I really don't visualize people in those terms. Yes, he was shorter than me, but I am taller than most. His beard, in the light we were in looked
blackish-brownish, mixed with grey and maybe red. (Hey, that describes my hair, also!)
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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\"Alea iacta est.\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Talmud has three methods for lighting the Hannukah candles: one the first night, two the second night, etc. (the most common prcatice) o
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Lets say we choose the most common practice of lighting the Menorah.
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Four. Two Shabbat candles and two for Hannukah. Technically speaking, because it was Shabbat, all the candles had to be lit no less than 18 minutes
before sunset, so they would be lit during the day. On nights other than Shabbat, the Hannukah candles can be lit at nighttime, usually when all the
family is gathered.
For the people who really want to know this minutia, a single woman lights one Sabbath candle, a married woman lights two candles and one for each
child. Don't ask me about the 18-minute before sunset rule, it has something to do with a bunch of rabbi's getting together and making a rule after
clocks were invented.
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Sheesh, Arrowhead
I was just going to publish a few lol faces to respond to Dennis' joke about the carnitas vendors.
Thanks for the relevant cultural, religious information about this very special time of year.
GJ
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
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Happy Hanukkah
Judenfriedhof Heiliger Sand (Holy Sand Jewish Cemetery)
We visited this atmospheric Jewish Cemetery this September in Worms, Germany. Some 2,000 tombstones dating back to 1076AD.
Prayer Notes
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More stuff you really need to know
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Don't ask me about the 18-minute before sunset rule, it has something to do with a bunch of rabbi's getting together and making a rule after clocks
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Actually, the 18 minute rule was backed into an ancient formula devised long before (western) clocks were invented.
4 minutes is the time it takes for the sun to travel 1 degree of arc.
The average width of a human hand, fingers extended thumb folded, is 4 degrees. One finger equals 1 degree.
The sun is .5 degree in width which translates into two minutes.
At arms length when top of your index finger touches the bottom of the sun and bottom of your pinky finger touches the horizon it's candle lighting
time. Which also happens to be 18 minutes until sunset.
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Would that be the same for left handed people?
Are you sure that you are correct, because if so, if I ever get on Jeopardy or Who Wants To Be A Millionaire I would like to use that if needed.
If you say so, it's good for me!
Peace out and Shalom
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
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Just get his phone number and use him as a life line.
If I am learning this correctly. Shalom, on this third day of Hannukah. And, last night, a confused gentile lit 3 candles.
(Do I get my brisket sandwich now?)
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Happy Third Day of the Festival of Lights.
I am learning a lot---a good thing.
1. I do not have to worry about 2012 anymore
2. The numbers 7, 8, 9 and 10 are the same in Hebrew as they are in Spanish and Hanukkah is best spent in Santa Monica (those u-tubes are priceless)
3. There is a very complicated way to determine when 18 minutes before sunset happens-- will take advice to use use Dave as a lifeline on that one.
4. Lighting candles is not a simple endeavor
5. There is a real need for real New York Kosher Pastrami in BCS.
So, while I may be a little confused and mess the ceremony up badly, I shall light, I think, four candles tonight with hopes for peace, survival and
in the spirit of universal understanding.
And, Ken, those are great photos. Thank you for posting them here.
Shalom
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"5. There is a real need for real New York Kosher Pastrami in BCS."
There's a need for that almost everywhere but New York! By and large, if you don't live in or near NY, Chicago, or LA, you're SOL. But even in LA,
there's probably on three or four Delis that serve authentic Jewish deli food.
As for BCS, although I've never eaten there, I'm told that Sr. Greenberg's in Cabo isn't bad.
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And.... I didn't even mention the pickles on the side.
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