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DENNIS
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I had one instance, which I've mentioned here about a thousand times, when driving and two guys pulled up by me and shot the back window out of my
car, missing my head by two feet.
At that time, I'd have felt a lot more secure with a gun in my hand. A large one.
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shari
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should this thread be in off topic?
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
Our son lives in Montana where it is legal to carry guns anywhere. |
Hey, while we're on this subject, how many of you folks have ever actually needed to brandish a gun in a defense situation (other
than a law enforcement or combat context)?
I'm for the right to bear arms, but personally cannot recall an incident where whipping out a handgun would have helped the situation. Maybe I've
just been lucky...
--Larry |
I agree with you---I can handle a small rifle, a small shot gun and I am not a bad shot with a pistol, but I never carry one. Montana has gotten to
him. :-)
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
should this thread be in off topic? |
The question was also asked about Baja
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
should this thread be in off topic? |
Nominally, perhaps-- although it's a minor deviation within an existing thread.
Realistically I wouldn't put any serious question in off-topic. I'm not interested in flame wars.
--Larry |
Not sure flames would survive in that sewer with all the fecal matter flying. 
And your minor deviation is an interesting question.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
Our son lives in Montana where it is legal to carry guns anywhere. |
Hey, while we're on this subject, how many of you folks have ever actually needed to brandish a gun in a defense situation (other
than a law enforcement or combat context)?
I'm for the right to bear arms, but personally cannot recall an incident where whipping out a handgun would have helped the situation. Maybe I've
just been lucky...
--Larry |
Most cops have never had to shoot anybody, either, but they remain prepared and equiped to do so. For me the peace of mind totally justifies being
armed. But, never in Mexico-------and, it has always made me nervous down there since we almost always are camped by ourselves in remote places.
(but I always had SOME type of weapon handy, even there). 
Barry (a retired cop with both Fed. and State weapons permits)
(edited to correct spelling)
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by Barry A.]
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desertcpl
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arizona
arizona laws are that you can carry a loaded firearm with you loaded, as long as it is not hidden, in a car , trailer, or in a holster even going into
stores or public places,, some places like bars will post a sign reading . NO FIRE ARMs ALLOWED
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by desertcpl]
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by desertcpl]
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wessongroup
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I like the direction, these Nomads are traveling at the moment...
"Need", may be a primary factor in an enforcement officer’s evaluation of situation on site..
I found that by staying away from "guns", unless required, was probably going to be the best way for me.. Each man and/or woman has to make their own
very difficult decision on how they will respond to situations which may be life threatening
I'm NOT for gun control.. But, everyone should understand the law and regulations fully when dealing with guns.
Believe that the original question has been answered, don't carry a loaded gun in your car with you.. If you were "living" in a trailer, your ability
to posses a load weapon would also be view as in compliance with State Law in Washington. I believe that California, Nevada, Oregon have much the same
Law and/or view on the issue.
If there is a question in anyone’s mind about the legal requirements associated with carrying a firearm they should be addressed, irregardless of a
threads location.
Would offer that perhaps, rather than move the thread, the best source to determine the legality and enforcement posture of the California Highway
Patrol is to just ask them.
Incorrect or misunderstood imparted information here on this board may have very serious consequences for someone you are trying to protect.
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by wessongroup]
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by wessongroup]
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
arizona laws are that you can carry a loaded firearm with you loaded, as long as it is not hidden, in a car , trailer, or in a holster even going into
stores or public places,, some places like bars will post a sign reading . NO FIRE ARMs ALLOWED
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by desertcpl]
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by desertcpl] |
------you can't "hide it" in a "holster"?????? now that stikes me as odd.
Barry
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wessongroup
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under jacket shoulder holsters do a pretty good job.... as long as your not trying to hide a 357, but then "Dirty Harry" wore a 44 mag...
seems to me..
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by wessongroup]
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wessongroup
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what are " flame wars"???
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desertcpl
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no I didnt say hide it in a holster,, you can have it in a holster,, as long as it is in plain site
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ELINVESTIG8R
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My philosophy goes with me here and Mexico. 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
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And your minor deviation is an interesting question. |
I think it is, and also relevant. There's occasional talk about folks wanting firearms here in Baja for self defense. But the cure is almost as
scary as the ailment: I tremble to think what is in store for a foreigner who shoots someone here, whatever the circumstances...
--Larry |
I wonder how many would carry a gun in Baja if they could----not taking about the hunters, but ones who would carry for self defense.
And oh my, I imagine if a foreigner shot someone they better have access to the border and run fast. And I am afraid it would be like what another
foreigner in Bahia Asuncion told us. It you run over someone, they had better be dead so they cannot talk---rather cold, no really COLD. Not things
I hope to experience in Baja.
Interesting, so the ban against foreigners bringing guns into Mexico is probably a good thing---may keep them out of more trouble.
[Edited on 12-20-2009 by DianaT]
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Dave
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Maybe...Maybe not
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
I tremble to think what is in store for a foreigner who shoots someone here, whatever the circumstances...
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Possibly down south...but up here it would depend on the circumstances and the competency and integrity of investigators. To
be safe, I wouldn't recommend any foreigner posses a weapon whose ownership could be traced back to them.
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Dave
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Sorry
I thought you meant 'here' as in the whole of Baja, or possibly even Mexico. I was making a distinction between Baja and Baja Sur.
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by DianaT Montana has gotten to him. :-) |
Wow! I lived 35 years in Montana, and though in many ways it "got to me" i.e. amazing mountains, friendly people, fantastic skies, clean fresh air
and water-- it never made me feel like I needed to carry a gun.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
I tremble to think what is in store for a foreigner who shoots someone here, whatever the circumstances...
--Larry |
Gee, I tremble to think of the consequences for some poor dumb drunk who comes looking for a beer when some paranoid freak lets him have it with his
gun!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
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And oh my, I imagine if a foreigner shot someone they better have access to the border and run fast. And I am afraid it would be like what another
foreigner in Bahia Asuncion told us. It you run over someone, they had better be dead so they cannot talk---rather cold, no really COLD.
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For repercussions, I think running over someone would be less dangerous than shooting someone.
Someone once explained to me a (Mexican) logic about self defense. If you take someone out, it's more trouble for you if you're better armed than the
crook. i.e if you shoot someone coming at you with a knife, you're in more trouble than if you knife someone coming at you with a gun. Suppose that
makes sense, but it makes carrying a gun a bit problematic, unless it's only used to protect yourself from other firearms.
I like your idea of heading for the border-- for a tourist in that situation, that's probably the best bet. For a landowner, a bit of a harder
call...
--Larry |
Interesting about the self-defense---another reason for the no gun law---may keep us out of that situation.
Yes, as a land owner, heading for the border is more problematic, but I think perhaps it would be better to sell the property long distance, even if
cheap. And maybe unless someone is in Baja full time, it makes good sense to only have contents that one can walk away from. It would not be easy,
but the alternative would not be worse.
Sure hope it never happens to any of us----don't want to run for the border.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
| Quote: | | Originally posted by DianaT Montana has gotten to him. :-) |
Wow! I lived 35 years in Montana, and though in many ways it "got to me" i.e. amazing mountains, friendly people, fantastic skies, clean fresh air
and water-- it never made me feel like I needed to carry a gun. |
Paula, he lives in Montana for all the reasons you mention and it is a beautiful place. He is a catch and release fly fisherman, and never has been a
hunter. Even in college in Colorado, he loved to find the big Elk before hunting season, and never tell where they were.
My comment was directed toward the fact that gun restrictions are very different there than in California where he was reared. And he now thinks the
gun restrictions in California make no sense.
I very much apologize if you thought I was flaming Montana---it is one of my favorite places, except as he always says, the best Montana winter is
spent in Baja.
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DUMB FLAME WARRIOR!
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