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Barry. sorry but only with memories. as good as they are.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Barry. sorry but only with memories. as good as they are. |
Hmmmmmmm------perhaps your right. But those 60+ years of going to Baja are nice------to me at least. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
------and that area is so fantastic that I think it qualifies for National Park status--------keep it just the way it is, and make the existing 3
facilities concessionairs, and grandfather the homes in as "in-holdings". Lordy, I hate to see that area ruined by over-development, and then
subsequent decay. A Mexican decision for sure, tho. None of my business other than my emotional rantings.
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I heartily agree with your "emotional rantings".
And as far as I'm concerned your opinion is just as valid as recent visitors. In fact, more so. Because having seen the past you are aware of the
decline. Newbies draw their own baseline from which they start to measure change. And by the time they are aware of the situation they will be
admonished by still newer newbies, as you were.
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Memories are always nice.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Barry. sorry but only with memories. as good as they are. |
Hmmmmmmm------perhaps your right. But those 60+ years of going to Baja are nice------to me at least.
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Igor
Progress does not always mean decline. For Gonzaga Bay, progress so far has only meant a place for you and others to stay. For the future, ....
we will see. It may mean not much changes at least in my life time. My first visit there was 1971 and I thought for sure the world would come to an
end soon
Ralph
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
------and that area is so fantastic that I think it qualifies for National Park status--------keep it just the way it is, and make the existing 3
facilities concessionairs, and grandfather the homes in as "in-holdings". Lordy, I hate to see that area ruined by over-development, and then
subsequent decay. A Mexican decision for sure, tho. None of my business other than my emotional rantings.
Barry |
I heartily agree with your "emotional rantings".
And as far as I'm concerned your opinion is just as valid as recent visitors. In fact, more so. Because having seen the past you are aware of the
decline. Newbies draw their own baseline from which they start to measure change. And by the time they are aware of the situation they will be
admonished by still newer newbies, as you were. |
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Igor
Progress does not always mean decline. For Gonzaga Bay, progress so far has only meant a place for you and others to stay. For the future, ....
we will see. It may mean not much changes at least in my life time. My first visit there was 1971 and I thought for sure the world would come to an
end soon
Ralph
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Didn't say the progress = decline. I wouldn't be alive today if my parents hadn't gotten their hands on penicillin in post war europe.
All of my trips to Gonzaga have been camping trips so I don't know how I benefitted from 'progress'.
I agree that development won't come to Gonzaga rapidly. I stated that in another thread.
I don't think 'the world is coming to an end'. I think that Gonzaga as we know it is starting to come to an end.
And those that follow won't be dismayed because they don't have a 'memory'.
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Barry A.
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Thanks, Skipjack------I appreciate that.
Barry
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Gonzaga sea wall
As a Rancho Grande palapa leasee, I spent two weeks there in November. Sea wall was finnished, ran from the north side property boundary to the south
side property boundary. In front of the rock "restaraunt" the sea wall has been back filled with sand. Sea wall extends the entire length of the
palapas. I asked up at the store; "WHY." No answer, just a shrug. Additionally and the most upsetting part, was that they have levelled the area from
the main road to the back of the papalpas, making a flat expanse of barren desert. The down side, which casued everyone to leave, was the wind blowing
the sand into the palapas. Since I own two trailers I was informed, prior to our arrival, that they would be covered in sand. We had a friend have one
of the local ladies clean the trailers, took her three days. Upon our arrival I was sceptical that any "cleaning" had occurred. Our friends told us
that the trailers were 100% better then before, but that the wind just blew the sand everywhere, what with no vegetation to cover the ground.
There were no palapaites staying there, and normally there would be at least four to five palapaites present. The sand has driven every one away, just
too miserable. Well the sand, the theft of our friends airplane, and the attempted theft of the other plane at Alfonsinas, accompanied by the car
jacking.
On the plus side the new store at Rancho Grande is very nice and the food is outstanding at their new restaraunt. The diving was excellent, plenty of
fish, and the whale sharks were in the bay, quite exciting. For unknown reasons they rethatched our palapa, it certainly needed it. As far as the
water issue, there are three wells that have been sunk between the north side of the valley down to Punta Finale, this is where water is obtained for
the locals. The water is a little salty but drinkable. No electricity but there are large stationary diesel engines to pump the water.
It was rather melancholy, with no one in the palapas and having trucks drive by the back side of the palapas in the late night and early morning
hours.
I asked at the store about the future of the palapas and was assured that they would remain as they are.
We are seriously thinking about not renewing our lease this year and just selling out, because of all of the drama.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Barry, Just stop. When was the last time you were south of the border? You are just like I am and stay North, so keep your comments relative to
North of he border BS |
Norte, you are always so kind to everyone! Who peeed in your Cheerios? If you "stay North" as you say you do, why don't you keep your comments
relative to North of the border? Oh, that's what you want Barry to do....but not yourself.
Barry - For what it's worth, I really enjoy talking to guys like yourself that have been going to baja for as long as you have. I always enjoy hearing
about how "it used to be" especially when it comes to the fishing and traveling baja before the highway. Keep the memories coming.........
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Has anyone photos of this?
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cj5orion
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gonzaga seawall
| Quote: | Originally posted by Sidamone
Has anyone photos of this? |
heres a couple...taken from palapa 6
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by cj5orion]
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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