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amarena
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NEW ROAD SAN FELIPE-LA BAY!
Just announced by governor Elorduy.
He is going to push to get federal funds to start in 2005!!
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Mike Humfreville
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Suspect he means he'd propose paving the road from San Felipe to Gonzaga and then out to Hwy 1 @ Laguna Chapala. Hwy 1 would then take you south to
the turnoff to Bahia de Los Angeles.
I'm sure a road could be built directly between Gonzaga and Bahia de Los Angeles, but it'd have a lot of unnecessary complications.
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Desertbull
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...and Escalera Nautica is coming as well....ROTFLMAO
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Why don't they just leave "OUR" Baja the way it is??
Look what happened in 1972-73 when they paved the other road.
Lots of "touristas"
I guess we better go as often as possible!!
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Bruce R Leech
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Don't worry Be Happy
Don't worry there is not much chance they are going to do it just because they announce it . some things have not changed here , and politics is one.
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jrbaja
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Changing times
Whether the politics have changed here or not, Baja is changing before our eyes.
It is a neck and neck race between the Canadians building from the south and the Gringos from the north.
It has nothing to do with escalera nautica and paved roads. It has to do with new roads, development, and over population of the planet.
Places like Loreto Bay and the countless other plans for Baja are just around the corner. It will more than likely be an entirely different
peninsula in many of our lifetimes if these projects actually happen.
What will 5000 homes do to Highway 1? It will cause a lot of accidents and then the road will be widened. And then more people will feel safer
traveling "the Baja" so it will "snowball" which it basically is already!
This is what's going on here and I don't see any way to stop it. Other than starting bamboo parks in as many places as possible teaching the locals
about the uses, and providing jobs and revenue for the locals as well as the government.
Howz about that fer an idear !!
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amarena
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SAN FELIPE - PUERTECITOS
The road has to be finished before he leaves office on 12/01/2007, it was aproved in a cabinet meeting last week,
first stage is repaving San Felipe to Puetecitos, the next is paving the road to San Luis Gonzaga, then his plan is to continue to LA bay, unless the
federal goverment only allows him to continue on to H 1.
Baja belongs to all of us, we have to be happy that this projects benefit Mexico, but we need to be careful with the big developers like Loreto Bay
so Baja is not damaged.
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Packoderm
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Is this off-base from most people's reasoning? "I'd like to travel this new paved road, but I do not want everybody else to be able to do the same
because it will wreck that part of Baja."
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David K
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The highway was constructed, just not paved, finished back in 1986 (San Felipe to Laguna Chapala). 10 years later it was paved to Puertecitos... the
contractor was jailed because he applied so little asphalt, it fell apart. It was repaved half way to Puertecitos a couple years ago.
The area between Gonzaga Bay and L.A. Bay is not possible to build a direct highway across, at least not financially feasible. It is mountain ridges
and deep canyons to the sea. From Chapala to L.A. Bay there already is a paved highway.
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BajaVida
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won't happen in my lifetime
I still remember the markers on the side of the road south of Puertecitos showing the road was "about to be paved." And that was more than 10 years
ago.
No se apure y dure.
Don\'t hurry and you\'ll last longer.
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Desertbull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The area between Gonzaga Bay and L.A. Bay is not possible to build a direct highway |
Please don't take this as a direct insult...I know that's hard to fathom...but ANYTHING is possible to build nowadays...and I say ANYTHING. Let alone
it would be very easy to build a highway through this section...easier than you could ever imagine.
Buy your land now...just imagine a restraurant at Shell Beach....LOL
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Bruce R Leech
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in context without the spin
The area between Gonzaga Bay and L.A. Bay is not possible to build a direct highway across, at least not financially feasible.
Bruce R Leech
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surfer jim
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I just signed a contract for the first BURGER KING...for SHELL BEACH.....
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Desertbull
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That's funny caca..Burger King at Shell Beach...next we'll here about an AM/PM at Puertocitos...ROTFLMAO
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capt. mike
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anybody who doesn't think you could easily
build a road from puertocitos to gonzaga and beyond to BOLA has not taken the train thru copper canyon up tp Creel!
that will blow your mind as to what's possible with a little engineering know how and labor. 
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Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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Mike Humfreville
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It's not that it couldn't be done, but if they don't choose to deal with the San Felipe-to-Puertecitos road why would they build a road directly
between Gonzaga and Bahia de Los Angeles? It sounds good as it would give us a few new view points but I can't see it happening. As there are
already routes that carry us there the only advantage would be getting there more quickly and since when has that been important in Mexico? The most
likely reason we go or live there is to not be rushed for time.
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David K
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Imagine a coastline like Puertecitos to Huerfanito where there was no other, better place to build a road. Well, Punta Final (Gonzaga) to L.A. Bay is
just like that if not tougher only four times longer.
Why would they build such a thing when there already is a paved road from Chapala (where a paved road from Gonzaga will come out) to L.A. Bay?
As Bruce pointed out, without the spin, my statement was "... not economically feasible" NOT that it was impossible to do.
Other than a fishing camp at Puerto Calamajue (near the north end), and a seasonal camp at Guadalupe/Remedios, this is an unpopulated coast, with
vertually no beaches or usable coast.
Erle Stanley Gardner had to use helicopters to explore the area (Arroyo Salsipuedes/Get out if you can wash) because the land was too harsh even with
his specialty vehicles and bikes. The sea offered no easy beach head, either.
Nope, no direct highway between Punta Final and La Gringa. And yes JR, I have driven all the possible roads in that area (El Toro, Guadalupe, and way
out to Candeleros). My kids and I camped out there, alone... then went to the 'gringo encave' as you call L.A. Bay to camp with the Humfreville's.
Access to the two above points was via deep east-west canyons from the two dry lakes. http://vivabaja.com/1202
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bufeo
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...and in 1924 it was deemed economically infeasible, if not impossible to build the Pacific Coast Highway connection between
Monterey, California, and Morro Bay, California. It was started in 1931 and completed in 1937.
I don't begrudge the citizens of BCN to improve their economy, but I will not look forward with enthusiasm to the day when this highway becomes
reality.
[Edited on 11-9-2004 by bufeo]
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jrbaja
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When all of the places
that have easy access are full of homes, the rest will start to develop as well.
We chased deer out of Laguna Niguel, with our building, which used to be some pretty wild country!
And, I don't know if anyone has noticed but there is a lot of money being spent on roads in both Baja Norte y Sur.
And not just repairs either!
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David K
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... and when they built the last section of the Baja Highway (San Quintin to Santa Rosalia) in 1973... The extra narrow roadbed (so they had enough
money for the distance) was descibed as temporary! The road was SOON to be widened for safety, etc.
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