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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Crazy Maggie has opened her board up to comments! Of course she gets to approve them first. I'm not going to meeting. I can never keep my big mouth
shut at these things- so better not to go and be deported if what I would say could be a "security alert". I just got my FM3 renewed for the third
time- don't want to lose it. But wouldn't that be interesting if they started singling out expat bloggers for deportation.
I do wonder what the Newport Beach Sailing Club has to say about being threatened by Mexico not to issue a "security alert". |
I might have to have someone drive me up there, but it would be worth it to see you in action.. man, I would try and get in on film if possible 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Crazy Maggie has opened her board up to comments! Of course she gets to approve them first. I'm not going to meeting. I can never keep my big mouth
shut at these things- so better not to go and be deported if what I would say could be a "security alert". I just got my FM3 renewed for the third
time- don't want to lose it. But wouldn't that be interesting if they started singling out expat bloggers for deportation.
I do wonder what the Newport Beach Sailing Club has to say about being threatened by Mexico not to issue a "security alert". |
I might have to have someone drive me up there, but it would be worth it to see you in action.. man, I would try and get in on film if possible |
You can be sure Torres will have as many people watching the crowd as people watching Torres. I wouldn't try to use a camera and expect not to be
quickly confronted.
It's all a propaganda show. They've waited so long after the event that prompted the meeting that the news media doesn't consider it "news" any more.
So he won that already.
The real story now is in the blocking of crime news leaving Mexico and the intimidation of the media and sailing club. Maybe a brown-shirt Fraulein
from the US media will take notes and report back to Torres. Now that he's intimidated the media he'll likely use them as the cowardly tools they are
for not pushing back. Echos of pre-WWII Germany...
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | I do wonder what the Newport Beach Sailing Club has to say about being threatened by Mexico not to issue a "security alert". |
I might have to have someone drive me up there, but it would be worth it to see you in action.. man, I would try and get in on film if possible |
Make sure you post it on you tube
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by noproblemo2
I do wonder what the Newport Beach Sailing Club has to say about being threatened by Mexico not to issue a "security alert". |
I might have to have someone drive me up there, but it would be worth it to see you in action.. man, I would try and get in on film if possible |
Make sure you post it on you tube |
Don't underestimate the power of YouTube in 2010 Mexico!
The Mexican gov't freely uses it to broadcast their internal meetings. Everyone sits in their gov't offices and clicks on YouTube links. Without
having IT departments and tons of tech-toys, YouTube works well for them and it's free.
I found this out first hand in my recent land concession battle with the Rosarito Municipal crooks. When Mexico City saw visuals of what was going on
in my case (from my YouTube video) they sent three PROFEPA inspectors within 5 days! We won and the people who wanted to take part of our concession
are hiding from PROFEPA. The FZM line was even moved all the way back to the street based on that video (making the amount of land we have to pay
for every year smaller without losing any control over it). Many people here are shaking in their boots now that they have been caught selling FZM
land and the buyers are co-operating with PROFEPA to get their money back.
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by Woooosh]
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wessongroup
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Rosarito Municipal crooks is that a Department
You are too much!!!
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by wessongroup]
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Rosarito Municipal crooks is that a Department
You are too much!!!
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by wessongroup] |
We recently found out the guy trying to fence off and sell our FZM concession works at the Rosarito Municipal Palacio. No wonder he figured out how
to pay the back taxes and create a fresh title (not a legal title, but good enough to sell). No wonder no one from Rosarito would respond to us.
That's why we bypassed Rosarito and went straight to PROFEPA in Mexico City for help- and it worked.
Always remember- There is no shame in Mexico.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
We recently found out the guy trying to fence off and sell our FZM concession works at the Rosarito Municipal Palacio. No wonder he figured out how
to pay the back taxes and create a fresh title (not a legal title, but good enough to sell). No wonder no one from Rosarito would respond to us.
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Was the guy prosecuted or does that fall into the catagory of, "Crimes against Gringos are OK as long as no one dies and the US Consulate doesn't have
to be notified."
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noproblemo2
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We recently found out the guy trying to fence off and sell our FZM concession works at the Rosarito Municipal Palacio. No wonder he figured out how
to pay the back taxes and create a fresh title (not a legal title, but good enough to sell). No wonder no one from Rosarito would respond to us.
That's why we bypassed Rosarito and went straight to PROFEPA in Mexico City for help- and it worked.
Always remember- There is no shame in Mexico. |
Sounds like a guy in Playa La Mision who got a house that way, started to fix it up then put it on the market, when a serious offer came in he
wouldn't/couldn't get them the proper paperwork they wanted to see on the land it sat on...
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
We recently found out the guy trying to fence off and sell our FZM concession works at the Rosarito Municipal Palacio. No wonder he figured out how
to pay the back taxes and create a fresh title (not a legal title, but good enough to sell). No wonder no one from Rosarito would respond to us.
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Was the guy prosecuted or does that fall into the catagory of, "Crimes against Gringos are OK as long as no one dies and the US Consulate doesn't have
to be notified." |
No gringos involved in this one. Mexicans stealing from other Mexicans. The concession is in the wife's family name. Not too many Mexicans have the
financial means to obtain a concession- it's expensive. Most land thieves go elsewhere when a FMZ concession is in place- it was strange for this guy
to try to grab, fence and sell it. We also caught him flat-footed with PROFEPA and the YouTube video. Few Mexicans will fight back like we did when
there's no profit to be gained from the fight. PROFEPA only told us they know the parties involved and a criminal investigation has begun. They will
never let us know the next steps they are taking, it's really none of our business once we won the case and the land was restored to us.
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by Woooosh]
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I'm happy it came out in your favor. F-ing Thieving Crooks!
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
I'm happy it came out in your favor. F-ing Thieving Crooks! |
We had our Mexican Attorney over the house the other day. He knows us well for many years (sold us our lot, built our house and represents our family
when the need arises). He was brutally honest with me and told me the business values/ethics I have from the other side simply don't exist down here
and won't anytime soon. Too much money to be had with little penalty if caught. Mexicans screw each other all the time and say "It's just business,
nothing personal". They don't negotiate for things they can take without asking.
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by Woooosh]
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wessongroup
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Hey, it happens in the states too, have a couple of default judgements that I can paper my garage with.. win in court.. but if the other side has done
a good job legally, you may win.. but that about it..
Remember O. J. losing in civil court.. the Goldman's won but what did they get... nada, zip, zero and O. J. was still playing golf in Miami Beach..
his KIDS were getting the money from their Trusts their father (his attorney) had setup .. Yeah, I know he is in jail now, but the Goldman's still
haven't gotten a dime... from their judgement
It a game, and that is how it's played... here in the United States and in Mexico too it would appear
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Sounds like an attorney we all should get to know, not to many tell it straight.
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Hey, it happens in the states too, have a couple of default judgements that I can paper my garage with.. |
Yeah, but in Mexico you never get to the default judgment stage. The legal system is not working with you, like in the US. That is why Woosh's
attorney friend is telling him there is no law in Mexico. If you couldn't collect on a default judgment in thw US, it is because you did business with
somebody with no assets.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
Margie/ Nancy/ Arowhead will you be attending Mayor Torres and Cheif Montero's meeting on security concerns regarding Americans living in Baja at his
hotel today in the Maya room at the RB Hotel today? |
No, I don't live in Mexico, so I don't have those security concerns. I think this is all yours to handle. You bought in Mexico based upon all the BS,
now deal with it. Remember the BajaNomad mantra: "Never buy anything in Mexico you cannot afford to walk away from."
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Hey, it happens in the states too, have a couple of default judgements that I can paper my garage with.. |
Yeah, but in Mexico you never get to the default judgment stage. The legal system is not working with you, like in the US. That is why Woosh's
attorney friend is telling him there is no law in Mexico. If you couldn't collect on a default judgment in thw US, it is because you did business with
somebody with no assets. |
There is "law", but white collar crime is off their radar completely. Look how few low-level white collar criminals get fines or jail time
stateside- even with a functioning legal system. It's sort of the wild wild west for white collar criminals down here. Always has been. Probably
would have stayed that way forever if Americans hadn't started demanding silly little things like title insurance, completion bonds, building
inspections and escrows.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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