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ELINVESTIG8R
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What? You mean you can't carry firearms in Mexico. Ooooops!
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sancho
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I love this one upsmanship stuff, some of you have
been going to Baja so long, surprized you don't claim
to have built the Mission in Loreto, for me,
68' surfing San Miguel, it's simple, if one is
fearfull ,justified or not, don't go to Mex,
listen to your little voice, the #1 incident
around the world involving tourists by far
is driving, auto accidents, and I would bet
ANYONE on this board, if a negative incident
of 'major importance 'in Mex would happen to them, they
run back to the US, vowing never to return
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JESSE
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Baja is as safe as it gets, if you can't handle the very low crime rate here, then your might as well stay home and never go out again. Crime has
increased in the Tijuana-Ensenada corridor, but the situation almost everywhere else, is pretty safe. Its all about perception, and the situation,
honestly, hasnt changed in 8 years. I drive the peninsula all the time, and besides the obvious tense borders are, things are pretty much the same.
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wessongroup
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Frank, I knew you could do it.. I'm still laughing.. The one for the sidewalks shows how old I am.. Used to just use water..
I really didn't know it was that bad in San Diego, really.. But, I don't get out very much anymore.. As a matter of fact the last time I was out that
way was at least 10 years ago.. like I said, I don't get out much anymore.. think there is a song with those words.. Ink Spots.. maybe..
But, thanks for a little insight on the area(s).. really sad to hear.. San Diego has/was/could/should be a nice place to live.. always liked the
County went working in it... guess it just got big like everything else..
In the early 70's used to work in Agriculture in San Diego County, the State in conjunction with the Board of Supervisors set up a "Green Belt" which
was supposed to stop the loss of "Ag" to housing development.. I came back down on a special project in about 1983-4 and could not believe what had
happened.. still can't .. also when we went over to Otay.. to finish off our SENTRI passes.. I could not believe the place.. all around Brown field
used to be celery, lettuce and many other crops, head quarters for the operations used to be up in the old Spanish Place at the base of the hills and
there were a number of "crop dusters" that flew off the old field too..
It's something when you get old..
Well I see your a short timer by your jump date.. good luck.. but, it only gives you a couple of months till the end "by the Mayan Calender"
Stay safe, sound like a whole lot of fun in the zoo, and remember not to feed the animals..
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irenemm
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I drive back and forth by myself or with just my granddaughters. I still feel safer here than anywhere in California. I grew up in Los Angeles. I
would not go to many area. Every little punk over there has a gun or a knife but not every little punk here does. the ones that have the guns are are
the good guys and the bad guys. not everyone. If you feel unsafe stay home and watch the news. I know my family has not been here for 2 years. Their
lost not mine. In LA you get shot for wearing the wrong color. I fear for my grand childen that live in Ca. everyday. I do not fear for the ones that
live here. I do not do things like I use to just becasue Baja has lots of people now. I would leave The Posada Don Diego at 2 am and drive up to San
Diego by myself and never though about it. I don't anymore because to many people I don't now. Back in the day you pretty much knew everyone on the
hwy. it was safer. Baja is still pretty safe. Safer than California.
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Cypress
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Been to Baja a time or two, a great place to visit.
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Woooosh
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I don't question people's gut feelings about safety. We all have differing comfort levels about almost everything in life. When guests are here I
lock the gates behind them. Being responsible for the safety of my family and visitors is a burden at times, but I accept it and take it seriously.
The wife rolls her eyes when I have to unlock gates to let people in/out, but I don't apologize for being very careful. As the man of the house
(unless the mother-in-law is here) it is my responsibility to ensure their safety. I don't want anything bad to happen on my watch.
For me having family down here makes it a different experience than a person on a vacation or road trip would have. You either love and embrace the
current Baja and it's residents or you don't. I prefer to stay and affect change here- through my family. little by little Mexico will strengthen and
improve. My family just wishes the progress would be a tad faster- that's all.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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BajaGringo
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Great post Woooosh...
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Gypsy Jan
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An Ounce of Precaution
Is worth more than pounds of remorse.
I really do not understand people who get all up and outraged about simple personal safety precautions and who natter on about the "right" to leave
doors, vehicles, etc., unlocked.
Most of the world and Mexico in particular right now is a great deal poorer than those of us who are gifted with the advantages of living/working in a
first world country with all of its excessive material possessions that are taken for granted.
If you travel at all, the middle and upper class communities all over the world use metal shutters, iron bars, guards, dogs and sophisticated
electronic security systems to protect their properties - it is an accepted fact of life.
[Edited on 1-30-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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bajabass
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Sad but true. The old saying "locks only keep honest people honest" is no longer
true. A big lock and a dog are best!
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Gypsy Jan
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I Prefer Dogs
The alarm system doesn't keep my feet warm at night or kiss me in the morning. 
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Paladin
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Lobster Guy is full of it.
2 guns are plenty
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Besides, it's honesty that keeps honest people honest. Verdad?
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Nope - in Alabama it's having more loaded guns than the rest of your neighbors do...
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Take away the cartel violence from Mexico, and there would still be crime. But the fact is that Mexico, in the past decade or two has vastly improved
their educational system and produced an immense number of middle class manufacturing jobs.
During this same period, US education has continually crumbled and middle class manufacturing jobs have been disappearing.
Something to fear is that there is an ever increasing angry backlash building among white Americans, as they gradually lose their majority status in
the population.
Anyone see any symbolism in that the Republicans had some plain vanilla guy who had been Governor of Virginia for 11 days, give their rebuttal to the
State of the Union speech? And it was delivered from the State House once presided over by Jeffferson Davis!
Carrying three guns in your car is surely the answer. |
A very salient point, which is not stated by many, with out an attack on the person making a rather valid observation .. thanks 
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Nope - in Alabama it's having more loaded guns than the rest of your neighbors do... |
Well, they must be doing something right.
Murders in Alabama in 2008 = 353
Population of Alabama = 4,661,900
Murders in Tijuana in 2008 = 886
Population of Tijuana = 1,600,000
The murder rate is 7 times higher in TJ. Maybe they should all get more guns?
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
The murder rate is 7 times higher in TJ. Maybe they should all get more guns?
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If this is what my neighbors would look like, I'd prefer to take my chances in TJ...
[Edited on 1-30-2010 by BajaGringo]
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Cypress
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Bajahowodd, Jefferson Davis? Didn't he die about a hundred years ago? At least the Repubs. didn't trot out a product of affirmative action for their
rebuttal. What's wrong with the State of Virginia?
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
If this is what my neighbors would look like, I'd prefer to take my chances in TJ... |
Yeah, but this is what your TJ neighbors really look like..
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If this is what my neighbors would look like, I'd prefer to take my chances in El Norte
[Edited on 1-30-2010 by arrowhead]
[Edited on 1-30-2010 by BajaNomad]
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Woooosh
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They shouldn't have opened the plastic bags on the dance floor. Someone might slip and fall and hurt themselves.
I doubt that pic will stay up long...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Packoderm
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It's funny how much scarier decapitated heads are compared to old fashioned corpses even though the ultimate result is the same. Perhaps Jim Crow
would still be with us if they did more than those wimpy little lynchings.
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