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comitan
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more info from another poster.
It's on the front page of the Sudcaliforniano. It happened in La Fuente, which is a neighborhood on the way to San Pedro. A woman called in a
robbery at her home, and when the policemen arrived they were met with three people with 9 mm weapons who opened fire. Only one of the policemen had
vests on; he is at Salvatierra hospital, don't know what his condition is. The owner of the house was an "aficionado del gallo" and my Mexican friend
says that means he's a gambler.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
The owner of the house was an "aficionado del gallo" and my Mexican friend says that means he's a gambler. |
c-ckfights, maybe?
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JESSE
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This stupid state goverment thinks where idiots. This was NOT a robbery at all.
1.-Thieves that break into houses don't carry around 9mm guns.
2.-Thieves don't have the obvious shooting skills these gunmen had.
3.-This was obviously an organized crime home invasion, most likely to collect some debt.
They are NOT going to find the gunmen.
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Jesse, When's the Sh*t going to hit the fan for the mordilones who were protecting El Teo? He was also often seen in Todos Santos at a house whose
owners are connected to the governor.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
How was it they were that armed and prepared to kill so many people? Why just weeks after Teo's arrest in a city that has essentially no murder
rate at all? Why at the very same time someone else was getting robbed at gun point? |
Perhaps the La Paz chapter of the cartel, now leaderless, doesn't have anything else to do.
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Bajahowodd
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Maybe people shouldn't try to over think this. I just read that the police arrested someone connected to that awful massacre of young people in Juarez
the other day. Up to this point, police were unable to find even the most minute connection between the victims and the gangs. Turns out the guy they
arrested said that the gang acted on a rumor that the party was being attended by some rivals. Rumor!!! 16 or more young innocents dead over a rumor!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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These people could be former cartel members not getting a paycheck anymore and are freelancing to make ends meet. I sure hope they meet their end in a
very painful way before they die!
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
How was it they were that armed and prepared to kill so many people? Why just weeks after Teo's arrest in a city that has essentially no murder
rate at all? Why at the very same time someone else was getting robbed at gun point? |
Perhaps the La Paz chapter of the cartel, now leaderless, doesn't have anything else to do. |
A cartel is never leaderless. The minute a boss goes down, the replacement is ready to take charge.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Maybe people shouldn't try to over think this. I just read that the police arrested someone connected to that awful massacre of young people in Juarez
the other day. Up to this point, police were unable to find even the most minute connection between the victims and the gangs. Turns out the guy they
arrested said that the gang acted on a rumor that the party was being attended by some rivals. Rumor!!! 16 or more young innocents dead over a rumor!
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Trust me, if the police where really that good at arresting criminals in Juarez, the city wouldn't be the deadliest on earth. Theres a lot more to
this story, and it certaintly isnt what small time killer told the cops after a night of torture.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
But Juarez's murder rate is literally several hundred times that of La Paz. |
It's unrealistic to compare anywhere with Juarez. The place needs to be flown over by the Enola Gay.
Something else I have to ask....As corrupt as the government is down there, how do we know we're getting all the news? Perhaps they're being selective
with news dissemination just as Torres in Rosarito is trying to be. La Paz may be more similar to Juarez than you think. It may be exactly like Kabul
or Baghdad. Chicago maybe.
Yep...that's what it may be like. Kabul....where the bad guys rule. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
A cartel is never leaderless. The minute a boss goes down, the replacement is ready to take charge. |
Yeah...I know. It's a big organization.
I was trying to figure out how BCS would fit into the scheme of moving drugs and I remembered the deep water port. I knew a scummy drug dealer in the
states years ago who told me he got all his inventory from a respectable family living in the middle of Ensenada. Without going into detail, he said
most drugs are imported into the US in containers on ships. Probably true.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Something else I have to ask....As corrupt as the government is down there, how do we know we're getting all the news? |
Funny you should ask:
Martinez’s murder comes a week after an editor in Baja California Sur filed a complaint with the state representative of the Attorney General’s
office, after he was allegedly abducted, beaten and threatened with death by the local mayor and the mayor’s cohorts. Armando Suarez Martinez, editor
of Puerto Viejo magazine, reported that he was insulted by the Loreto mayor in the town hall, and was punched by the mayor’s secretary, according to a
report by the Center for Journalism and Public Ethics in Mexico.
http://www.freemedia.at/startpage/singleview/4688/
Furthermore, the journalist said Armando Suarez, Puerto Viejo magazine, published in La Paz, Baja California, who according to the organization
was "under threat of death" by the municipal president of Loreto, Yuan Yee Cunningham.
(the above snippet is a google translation)
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion/175372.html
I don't know what this is all about, but journalism is a dangerous job in Mexico.
Yuan Yee Cunningham?????? 
[Edited on 2-4-2010 by k-rico]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Maybe people shouldn't try to over think this. I just read that the police arrested someone connected to that awful massacre of young people in Juarez
the other day. Up to this point, police were unable to find even the most minute connection between the victims and the gangs. Turns out the guy they
arrested said that the gang acted on a rumor that the party was being attended by some rivals. Rumor!!! 16 or more young innocents dead over a rumor!
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Just to add to your point. The gunmen shot up several other houses on the street and their targets ran to the party house and mingled in with the
guests. The rivals weren't checking ID's and shot everyone. No parents at home?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
These people could be former cartel members not getting a paycheck anymore and are freelancing to make ends meet. I sure hope they meet their end in a
very painful way before they die! |
Can't they keep themselves busy searching for the dozens of $Million suitcases Teo probably buried? Maybe a year-long GPS scavenger hunt contest? It
could be a really interesting game with required kidnappings, robberies, extortion, mutilations, bribery, torturing and acts of revenge until they
hone in on the $Million suitcases (or the biz connection to fill their own cases now that Teo is temporarily out of the picture). Oh yeah- that game
has already started. Who gets to make the map?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Yuan Yee Cunningham??????
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Yeah.  I wonder if that guy hs his FMT.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Something else I have to ask....As corrupt as the government is down there, how do we know we're getting all the news? Perhaps they're being selective
with news dissemination just as Torres in Rosarito is trying to be. La Paz may be more similar to Juarez than you think. It may be exactly like Kabul
or Baghdad. Chicago maybe.
Yep...that's what it may be like. Kabul....where the bad guys rule.
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Who implied we're getting all of the news? Hell, we're barely getting ANY of it.
"All the news that's been vetted"
They're still hanging on to that ridiculous "oh, we hit a Telmex cable" BS. C'mon.
What they USED to do here (not kidding) is if something bad were printed about the government or someone important, they would simply buy every paper
in La Paz so no one could read about it. Living here is occasionally like being in the 30s in a movie.
It DOES make it interesting though. Nothing boring about politics here. It's going to get really interesting when the election rolls around.
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I know the guy Hugo Torres hired to pull the Gringo Gazettes off store racks in town when the negative real estate stories about him were front page
fodder. Point of Sale Censorship. Next best thing to threatening journalists over security alerts I guess.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Yuan Yee Cunningham??????
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Yeah. I wonder if that guy hs his FMT. |
The Yees are an old Loreto BCS family of Chinese descent. I believe there are Yees in Mulege as well.
The Cunninghams (pronounced COON-een-ham) are of English descent and are also a prominent family here.
Yuan Yee suceeded one of many Davises (Dah-vis) who have usually held power in Loreto. Also of English descent, there are more Davises in Loreto than
any other family save the Murillos.
Another prominent local family of English descent is the Greene family.
As for the allegations...
"I Know Nothing!"
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Hey Don, is it true hes a little crazy? many people here in La Paz, including politicians from his own party call him el chino loco.
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DENNIS
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WOW...Michener could have written a book about Loreto. Oh...wait a minute. He did. Hawaii.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Hey Don, is it true hes a little crazy? many people here in La Paz, including politicians from his own party call him el chino loco.
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Doesn't having a journalist punched out and then threatening to kill him put him in the "a little crazy" category?
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