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jgreenlaw1
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2 friends in 2 years now have Trichinosis
2 of my friends in 2 years now have Trichinosis. I thought I would let people know so they can take precautions.
Bolth friends were hispanic that visited baja sometimes.
I assume they got the Trichinosis from baja as the comercial meat in the U.S has much stricter food safty guidlines.
I know you can get it from eating infected pork that was undercooked. Im assuming, since the Trichinella Spiralis travel in the blood to all part of
the body. That if there is unsafe food handling of the infected pork in the kitchen or butcher shop, that the meat grinder or cutting board is also a
source of contamination. I would then think that anything then put into the grinder following the infected pork is now infected. The same would go for
the cutting board. Pork such as pork chops done on the barbeque would also be a no no in baja I would think. I wouldnt be so concerned except in bolth
cases with my friends, the Trichinella Spiralis went to the brain. Even when cured of the disease with heavy doses of medicens the holes and the
carcases remain in the brain resulting in alot of seriouse issues. I know the symtoms were mild in one of my friends until the convoltions months
later. See more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis#Prevention
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Commerical pork is tested here just as it is the States. However if you eat on tacos stand and roadside stand you run the risk of getting pigs that
where not raised for the commerical market. some guy killed his pig and hey turned it into carnitas. Most restaurant buy from a commerical butcher. At
least we do.
But it can be because someone did not make sure it tested out at internal tempertaure of 175 f.
most of the pork we use comes the the United States as does most the beef and chicken we use.
Roadside stand do not have the same rules that a restaurant has. the stands are not inspected by the health department and i am sure the workers do
not have health certifcates
I hope your friends will soon feel better and watch where they eat.
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JESSE
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Considering the total yearly cases in Mexico are around 20, your friends where incredibly unlucky.
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DENNIS
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Pink pork will getcha. It should be cooked in an Autoclave.
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Don't forget his post says "I assume they got it in Baja". Basing that on the fact they "They visited Mexico sometimes".
Thats like catching the clap after having sex with 12 different girls and cause one of them was a professional you automatically assume it came from
her.
And we wonder why we get bad press.
[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Donjulio]
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jgreenlaw1
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mexico doesnt deserve any bad press?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Don't forget his post says "I assume they got it in Baja". Basing that on the fact they "They visited Mexico sometimes".
Thats like catching the clap after having sex with 12 different girls and cause one of them was a professional you automatically assume it came from
her.
And we wonder why we get bad press.
[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Donjulio] |
I know and mexico doesnt deserve any bad press. Sorry I even brought this up. The 20 case reported in mexico did not include the 2 cases involving my
friends, as they reported it in the U.S. I just hope this disease is not on the rise as it is a terrible disease to get.
[Edited on 2-8-2010 by jgreenlaw1]
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On a side note.. for all those who love raw fish... one can get parasitic diseases also..
In the past, most was somewhat more restricted to certain geographic regions of the world, however with the spread of the Global economy.. so also the
spread of certain other things too
I have always cooked my pork to death.. was brought up "cook the hell out of it".. my wife says she likes hers "moist and juicy" well... sorry... make
it like shoe leather, I'll put something on it to make it taste better.. did that too growing up.. always had a bottle of catsup on the table to make
it taste half way good.. then switched to hot sauces in the Service.. you had to have it, it was a necessity.. eating in chow halls..
But, I don't eat raw fish, I don't like fish even cooked, let alone raw!! Can take smoked fish.. well smoked, not one of these run it through kind of
smoke jobs.. if it's dry, I drink more beer.. have with crackers and some time a piece of onion just to really drive anyone away big time... it's not
a pretty sight, but good  you can eat what you want.. if you like it God Bless.. what a pound of Beef up to in Japan now days.. $56 a pound..
and where does all the raw fish eaters come from... looks like they like fish, but all said... would appear that a good steak.. has some legs in
Japan.. still
And that is my choice, a good steak, not raw.. cooked, over open flame from a wood fire (mesquite if possible) medium rare.. if it's got worms I will
eat them too... it's making me hungry just writing about it..
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DENNIS
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Pork products are mishandled everywhere. Just ask the Muslims. Roadside stands in most cases lack the power to heat pork to a safe temperature and
when it's cooked, they lack the power to protect it with refrigeration.
The most safe decision would be to not eat pork in questionable circumstances.
All that said, why does this have to turn into an issue of Mexico bashing when it was nothing more than bad pork bashing?
Everybody, including Mexico, deserves all the bad press they earn, whether it's bad people or bad pork.
Just don't eat pork unless you cook it yourself.
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Bajahowodd
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Many good points here that add up to the fact that this thread has nothing to do about Mexico. And let's remember, all you hunters, that wild game is
much more likely to be contaminated than pork.
That said, one difference between shopping at Ralphs in Orange County and Soriana in Ensenada, is when I walk up to the meat counter, the butcher is
wearing a surgical mask in Soriana.
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wessongroup
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Not too sure about the food thing.. when in the Walmart in Rosarito.. saw the "butter lettuce" was in a "Headman" box.. do you know what that means?
Well it means it was grown in Ventura County by Dave Walsh... a big grower in Venture County.. also.. we, the State of California, export a lot of
stuff, also most of the big growers started up operations all over the world to supply stuff out of season here.. but, not in another part of the
world... there is much food and fiber moved all over the world daily... would not be too sure what you're getting is from just around the corner.. but
in many cases another Country..
As a side note, this whole concept was started by Freda Caplan at City Market in downtown Los Angeles in the very early 60's and introduced the Kiwi
fruit, an unknown commodity at the time.. She also brought in many other very creative ideas in providing a very vast selection of "out of season"
produce and marginal crops which had never had success due to poor marketing ....
http://www.bigthinkingwomen.com/utility/showArticle/?objectI...
She was a pleasure to meet and a pleasure to work with.. she, was a go getter, big time in a good way
On the mask, not sure if that is for swine flue or a requirement of the Mexican Health Department.. will check it out.. as it is a good idea.. for
sure
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If you see a greenish-blue irridescent sheen on your porkchops hand them to the dog. Just because pork is cooked to 175f doesn't exclude the fact that
the pork may have previously spoiled leaving toxins in the tissue that can lead to illness.
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irenemm
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the mask is required by the health department for all food handlers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
the mask is required by the health department for all food handlers. |
Thanks
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
the mask is required by the health department for all food handlers. |
That is, evidently, an easily ignored rule. When Com Mex opened in Ensenada, the workers in the bakery all wore masks for about a month. Then the
mask slipped from the face to the neck and they wore them like that for a while. Now, they're gone.
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arrowhead
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Just eat Kosher food.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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The Masks or the Workers?
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
the mask is required by the health department for all food handlers. |
That is, evidently, an easily ignored rule. When Com Mex opened in Ensenada, the workers in the bakery all wore masks for about a month. Then the
mask slipped from the face to the neck and they wore them like that for a while. Now, they're gone. |
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Kosher Pork?
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Just eat Kosher food.
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Don't forget Halal.
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tripledigitken
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I'm NOT cutting back on these!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bajahowodd
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Geez, Ken. Now I can't skip lunch.
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Those are perverse! Waaaaay too much foreskin.
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