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[*] posted on 2-24-2010 at 07:16 PM


The 60's...

Fish tacos were 8 for a buck in San Felipe!




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[*] posted on 2-24-2010 at 07:30 PM


I think the bad economy and the passport requirement have as much impact as the reports of violence. Lots of vacation destinations around the globe are seeing less tourism and until the economy improves I don't think that will change. A girlfriend has a couple of really nice vacation condos she rents on Maui. Normally she is already 50%+ booked up for the spring/summer by now but told me they are both wide open except for a couple of dates.
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[*] posted on 2-24-2010 at 08:22 PM


All the camps I visit are packed in BCS, more than ever, sailors, kitesurfers, surfers and windsurfers don't seem to know anything about the bad economy. In fact, we have the distinct impression that due to not paying attention, everything is really awesome. If you have any interest in actually doing something, it seems now is a great time to go! ... watching videos of diving now.
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[*] posted on 2-24-2010 at 09:23 PM


Murders in northern baja are down 70% from last year. Now that Teo's gang is out, things will get back to normal. My friends and family in TJ tell me the city feels calm for the first time in years.



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[*] posted on 2-24-2010 at 10:03 PM


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Murders in northern baja are down 70% from last year. Now that Teo's gang is out, things will get back to normal. My friends and family in TJ tell me the city feels calm for the first time in years.


The people are getting back outdoors more. It'll be a while before they relax IMHO. No one who works for a living has any feeling of economic recovery yet- on either side. But just unlocking your door and walking the dog around the block in morning is a start.

My cousin used to make rustic woods doors in Rosarito- now he works at the swap meet in TJ. Not good for his family, him or his self esteem. We can't lose the local craftsman and trades (Rosarito's Blvd Popotla was getting a decent artist community too) or everything in Mexico will be made in China.




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 08:29 AM


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The 60's...

Fish tacos were 8 for a buck in San Felipe!


:lol::lol::lol:

Okay... but I DO remember paying 25 cents for a fish taco in 1978! :light::cool:

Of course it was impossible to eat just one!




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 10:43 AM


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The 60's...

Fish tacos were 8 for a buck in San Felipe!


Didn't beer come in oil cans then too? :P
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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 10:55 AM


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The 60's...

Fish tacos were 8 for a buck in San Felipe!


In the '50's Carta Blanca was .09 cents a bottle in Guaymas.

------and diesel was .11 cents a gallon in Mexicali in the late '70's.

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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:11 PM


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Murders in northern baja are down 70% from last year. Now that Teo's gang is out, things will get back to normal. My friends and family in TJ tell me the city feels calm for the first time in years.


Good news!!!




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:14 PM


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Geez. And campers spend how much money there? People are out of work. Anyone who smugly feels that an empty Baja is better should start a fund to buy food for the hungry down there.


How very true. I well imagine that many of those smug campers spend next to NOTHING in Baja. They stock up with food, drinks, fill up with gas and then go spend a couple of days somewhere south of San Felipe. Not only do they spend nothing to help the economy, they are a liability as there is more wear and tear on the roads.

Lamenting the past is a worthless past time and really says nothing about what the Mexicans want. It is like the road to Bahia Asuncion. We have met a lot of locals and there is only one who is not looking forward to all pavement and hopes the Vizcaino Road will be fixed.

Does anyone think they want to go back to the days where there were tons of lobster and abalone here, but it took three days on a mule to get to the fish camps? Or do they want to go back to when there was no electricity, or piped water and as a friend says, the town was nothing but pulgas y coyotes?

DK´s idea of less is best really discounts the people here. I guess it would still be quaint if they all were still riding burros and fishing in heavy wooden boats with oars.

Baja is still beautiful and there is more and more happening to protect parts of the environment which is good. But it is really up to the Mexicans to decide in which direction they want to move, and I doubt it will be turning the clock back.

Again, I think it is a difference between those who want to ¨save¨Baja as their own personal playground and those who live here at least part time and interact with the people more.

And, while we do not care for Los Cabos, it is as much Baja as is San Roque, or Shell Island. It is just different and some people love it---Mexicans and Gringos alike.

The fear created by the US press---all of the press including Faux News really hurts tourism, and of course the flood this year didn´t help.

Lots of reasons, perhaps, but the lamenting for the past and the attempt to tell Mexico what is best really is disrespectful to the Mexican people.




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:28 PM


Boy, the 60's were hard on you, huh Diane?

I am one of the biggest boosters for Baja tourism on the Internet... I encourage people to visit Baja...

I help people in Baja with their tourist oriented businesses... Maybe you have heard of Juan and Shari of a little known place called Bahia Asuncion? There was NOTHING on Asuncion, from Asuncion, until Shari got on line... and after several emails between her and I, I encouraged her to post more about it on Nomad and I made a web site for her photos... the rest... is history.

Perhaps you have heard of Baja Cactus and other businesses in El Rosario (Tacos Mision, Mama Espinoza's, Turista Motel, Baja's Best...)?

Maybe, just maybe you will see Mulege, and visit El Patron, Playa Frambes, etc.). In Loreto McLuLu's, CocoCabaņas motel, etc....

Keri's Pyramid Resort has always received my full support and help promotong her book events...

My travel logs take people to see places like Mike's Sky Rancho, Alfonsina's, Coco's Corner, the mission sites, rock art sites, El Camino Real, ...

Just so funny you use me to describe people who don't give anything back to Baja, for the enjoyment they receive...



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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:30 PM


We had a small caravan from Germany about 2 weeks ago. they will be here again on the 3rd. On e of the guest asked how usiness was. I told him it is down 98%. We had 2 caravans this year his and 1 from fantasy. In years past we would have 20 in a month and with 18 to 23 riggs. anyway the man could not understand why no one was coming I told him the bad rap the news puts out. that san diego has nothing but bad thing to say about Baja. I grew up i Los Angeles and feel safe here. He said he has travel all over the world and the things that happen here are only between cartel and cops. Most countries the crime is targeted to the tourist. He said in Italy, France and many parts of Europe they use radios to call each other to highjack you and rob you even at the stop lights. He said that he does not believe the economy of the States for the motorhome people is as bad as it says. If you go to Az. you can see 50,000 of them sitting next to each other with nothing there. so they have money to get to Az. so they have money to come here.
Now if we could get more of him talking to the press maybe people would come back.




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:39 PM


I guess Irene needs to hire the poster boy of Baja tourism since he does so much. Besides, he needs the work.
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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:41 PM


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who is the poster boy?




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:50 PM
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I guess Irene needs to hire the poster boy of Baja tourism since he does so much. Besides, he needs the work.



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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:52 PM


Irene. look at how much he does for tourism.

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Boy, the 60's were hard on you, huh Diane?

I am one of the biggest boosters for Baja tourism on the Internet... I encourage people to visit Baja...

I help people in Baja with their tourist oriented businesses... Maybe you have heard of Juan and Shari of a little known place called Bahia Asuncion? There was NOTHING on Asuncion, from Asuncion, until Shari got on line... and after several emails between her and I, I encouraged her to post more about it on Nomad and I made a web site for her photos... the rest... is history.

Perhaps you have heard of Baja Cactus and other businesses in El Rosario (Tacos Mision, Mama Espinoza's, Turista Motel, Baja's Best...)?

Maybe, just maybe you will see Mulege, and visit El Patron, Playa Frambes, etc.). In Loreto McLuLu's, CocoCabaņas motel, etc....

Keri's Pyramid Resort has always received my full support and help promotong her book events...

My travel logs take people to see places like Mike's Sky Rancho, Alfonsina's, Coco's Corner, the mission sites, rock art sites, El Camino Real, ...

Just so funny you use me to describe people who don't give anything back to Baja, for the enjoyment they receive...



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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 02:53 PM


It would be great if I did get paid for all my work promoting Baja travel... but, I do it for the love of Baja and the people of Baja and the Baja Nomads who know how to be nice to their fellow Nomads.:light:



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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 03:00 PM


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Irene. look at how much he does for tourism.



Yup, and if you check the links I provide... it is all there.

Now, the goal is to get America working again so we can afford to go back to Baja more!




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rolleyes.gif posted on 2-25-2010 at 03:05 PM
Oh Puleeze


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Geez. And campers spend how much money there? People are out of work. Anyone who smugly feels that an empty Baja is better should start a fund to buy food for the hungry down there.


How very true. I well imagine that many of those smug campers spend next to NOTHING in Baja. They stock up with food, drinks, fill up with gas and then go spend a couple of days somewhere south of San Felipe. Not only do they spend nothing to help the economy, they are a liability as there is more wear and tear on the roads.


Now spending money has become a tourist responsibility?




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 03:20 PM


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Geez. And campers spend how much money there? People are out of work. Anyone who smugly feels that an empty Baja is better should start a fund to buy food for the hungry down there.


How very true. I well imagine that many of those smug campers spend next to NOTHING in Baja. They stock up with food, drinks, fill up with gas and then go spend a couple of days somewhere south of San Felipe. Not only do they spend nothing to help the economy, they are a liability as there is more wear and tear on the roads.


Now spending money has become a tourist responsibility?



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